Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

charlie14

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Basque Country has been open for business for a month now I think. 2 million people going about their lives. We’re 2 months behind them.

They open up everything just a few weeks after they refused to change their regulations to suit EUFA.
Looks like they really looked at doing what EUFA were demanding as very dodgy doesn`t it.

paddyisreal

gozunda wrote: »

So nothing to do with the comment then?

"Public or private"?

Are you referring to the facilities at the gig or your previous comment?

Previous comment, would love to know how many of the Tony,nphet lovers have actual skin in the game and ain't just public,semi state lads on nice salaries with guaranteed pensions.

Very easy to tell everyone that the restrictions and the slowness of them been lifted aren't a problem when you have **** all to worry about .

So simple question public or private ?

gozunda

the kelt wrote: »

You were responding to a post about the iveagh gardens gig

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=117422615&postcount=6204
And said
“The UK had a similar sized park gig back in April with about 5000 people which when relative to their population size is actually an incredibly small event.”
So again how is 500 people a similar sized park gig to 5000 people?

And why even mention it being an incredibly small event relative to their population? Who has ever considered how small an event is based on the countries population?

You know you had a bit of a brain fart cos ye went on the attack and got yourself a warning. It’s ok, we all make them now and again, nothing to get worked up about.

Why mention it? Eh? Why not? Is permission required?

The second bit re " Who has ever considered"
if you check - firmly belongs to things never said.

Considering the number of daft comments complaining about the size of that gig - despite our nearest neighbour also starting out with small gigs - I'd say its absolutely relevant. And yes Similar size = small!

This bit.

"You know you had a bit of a brain fart cos ye went on the attack and got yourself a warning. It’s ok, we all make them now and again, nothing to get worked up about"

Lol. Funny you first claimed i had a brain fart because according to yourself you couldn't work it out. So yes this is indeed yours. "a bit of a brain fart there. It’s ok, we all make them now and again, nothing to get worked up about"

But hey no matter. ..

JRant

charlie14 wrote: »

I didn`t ask if it was to do with finance. If the EUFA decision to turn down the offer was based on just the extra gate receipts then they are bigger carpetbaggers than even I thought them to be..

I was asking if the GAA or IRFU just turned up looking for restrictions dropped on stadium numbers for whatever reason, then should we not just also accommodate them too ?

Huh?

I'm pretty sure looking for the restrictions to be eased on stadium numbers for financial reasons falls under your "whatever reason" umbrella.

zackory

Chivito550 wrote: »

If 5000 is a small event relative to UK's population, then a packed stadium of 105,000 people is a small event relative to China's population.

Really stellar logic being applied this evening!

LOL, and if you continue to apply that logic, Galway should start with 50 person test gigs and castletownbere 5.

the kelt

gozunda wrote: »

Why mention it? Eh? Why not? Is permission required?

Considering the number of daft comments complaining about the size of that gig - despite our nearest neighbour also starting out with small gigs - I'd say its absolutely relevant. And yes Similar size = small!

This bit.

"You know you had a bit of a brain fart cos ye went on the attack and got yourself a warning. It’s ok, we all make them now and again, nothing to get worked up about"

Lol. Funny you first claimed i had a brain fart because according to yourself you couldn't work it out. So yes this is indeed yours. "a bit of a brain fart there. It’s ok, we all make them now and again, nothing to get worked up about"

But hey no matter. ..[/QUOTE]

That’s all over the shop, you keep saying “things that were never said when I’m actually asking you questions”

So as I asked a civil question previously as yes I couldn’t work out as per below.

So again how is 500 people a similar sized park gig to 5000 people?

Surely the actual capacity of the venue is more apt?

It’s ok mate, it was a silly comment to make, it happens, relax, I genuinely thought it was a typo but then ye just started digging.

gozunda

zackory wrote: »

LOL, and if you continue to apply that logic, Galway should start with 50 person test gigs and castletownbere 5.

:rolleyes:

You may want to check - that irrelevancey was bizarrely posited by the previous poster not me.

So neither implied nor stated. But no matter. See previous comments ...

JRant

To quote Albert Einstein "it's all relative, baby"

zackory

gozunda wrote: »

:rolleyes:

You may want to check - that irrelevancey was bizarrely posited by the previous poster not me.

So nither implied nor stated. But no matter. See previous comments ...

You equated population size to test event size.

Not Tony Holohan

Not NPHET

Not the WHO.

You came up with the silly notion, all on your own.

You were rightly called out for it being dumb and hours later you are still digging the hole.

paddyisreal

the kelt wrote: »

You were responding to a post about the iveagh gardens gig

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=117422615&postcount=6204

And said

“The UK had a similar sized park gig back in April with about 5000 people which when relative to their population size is actually an incredibly small event.”

So again how is 500 people a similar sized park gig to 5000 people?

And why even mention it being an incredibly small event relative to their population? Who has ever considered how small an event is based on the countries population?

You know you had a bit of a brain fart cos ye went on the attack and got yourself a warning. It’s ok, we all make them now and again, nothing to get worked up about.

Maybe the 5000 were from Lilliput ?

gozunda

paddyisreal wrote: »

Previous comment, would love to know how many of the Tony,nphet lovers have actual skin in the game and ain't just public,semi state lads on nice salaries with guaranteed pensions.

Very easy to tell everyone that the restrictions and the slowness of them been lifted aren't a problem when you have **** all to worry about .

So simple question public or private ?

OK paddy just because you're oddly determined to make out that everyone you disagree with here - is a

paddyisreal wrote:

Nervous Nellie ... afraid of their ****e the country might return to ormal who I will hazard a guess are predominantly in long term public, semi state secure employment with a pension to back it up...

I run my own business. So yeah private. And plenty to worry about.

And not one of your "public,semi state lads on nice salaries with guaranteed pensions"

Sorry to burst that bubble.

And yourself? Salaried? PUP, other?

Ps. Dont have to answer if you do not wish to - to keep asking others for that kind of thing is not cool imho.

charlie14

JRant wrote: »

Huh?

I'm pretty sure looking for the restrictions to be eased on stadium numbers for financial reasons falls under your "whatever reason" umbrella.

Not clear what you are saying.
Did EUFA turn down the offers from Ireland and Bilbao on the basis of gate receipts, and that we were expected to change regulation for EUFA finances ?

the kelt

JRant wrote: »

Yes, I believe both the GAA and IRFU should be hammering on the governments door to allow decent numbers into venues. Both sports are hemorrhaging money with the IRFU is real trouble and outdoor events pose very little risk to public health.

I genuinely don’t have any huge issues with us turning down the euros games to be honest as things stand but agree that home games for the irfu and the gaa should have decent numbers allowed into venues as quickly as possible.

They want us to have an outdoor summer and holiday at home, fair enough imho but let’s give us more reasons to stay at home so.

NIAC Fanboy

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JRant

charlie14 wrote: »

Not clear what you are saying.
Did EUFA turn down the offers from Ireland and Bilbao on the basis of gate receipts, and that we were expected to change regulation for EUFA finances ?

UEFA removed Dublin as a venue because our government refused to allow a minimum number of fans into games. The IRFU, and to a lesser extent the GAA, are in financial trouble because the government refused to allow fans into games.

niallo27

charlie14 wrote: »

Not clear what you are saying.
Did EUFA turn down the offers from Ireland and Bilbao on the basis of gate receipts, and that we were expected to change regulation for EUFA finances ?

I don't think you should be talking on behalf of an organisation than you can't even spell.

User1998

charlie14 wrote: »

I have asked this before but have yet to get an answer. Do those that believe we should have changed our regulations to suit UEFA also believe that if the GAA or the IRFU came calling looking to add a few more thousand spectators in Croke Park or The Aviva believe we should also forget about regulations and do so ?

I don’t think we should change our regulations to suit UEFA

I think we should change them because they are absolutely ridiculous

charlie14

niallo27 wrote: »

I don't think you should be talking on behalf of an organisation than you can't even spell.

You may hold them in more esteem than I do, but either way I don`t believe a visit from a representative of the grammar police makes a lot of difference either way. It`s not as If you were confused as to who I was referring to is it ?

niallo27

charlie14 wrote: »

You may hold them in more esteem than I do, but either way I don`t believe a visit from a representative of the grammar police makes a lot of difference either way. It`s not as If you were confused as to who I was referring to is it ?

You have passed a few comments about the organisation but you don't even know who they are.

Graham

niallo27 wrote: »

You have passed a few comments about the organisation but you don't even know who they are.

Does the virus?

Ficheall

paddyisreal wrote: »

Previous comment, would love to know how many of the Tony,nphet lovers have actual skin in the game and ain't just public,semi state lads on nice salaries with guaranteed pensions.

Very easy to tell everyone that the restrictions and the slowness of them been lifted aren't a problem when you have **** all to worry about .

So simple question public or private ?

Self-employed, no pension.

Working throughout for the same as I would have made on the PUP. Which was stupid, in hindsight - should have taken the year off, but here we are.
Certainly wouldn't describe myself as a "Tony/NPHET-lover", but I'm sure there are posters who would, given my reluctance to push up the case numbers.

Chivito550

People are missing my original point about the Euros. Its not about football. It's not about the tournament. It's not about the economy. It's not about sightseeing in various cities, standing up to a corrupt organisation or whatever other sh1te was spouted.

It's simply symbolic of how far the rest of Europe is ahead of Ireland with regards lifting restrictions - countries with similar vaccination rates to Ireland.

That is the point I was making.

charlie14

JRant wrote: »

UEFA removed Dublin as a venue because our government refused to allow a minimum number of fans into games. The IRFU, and to a lesser extent the GAA, are in financial trouble because the government refused to allow fans into games.

So did UEFA turn down the offer from both Ireland and Bilbao for reasons of finance or do you not know ?
European countries were playing their various leagues in empty stadiums, so why the sudden change from EUFA in the demand for attendances ?

charlie14

Chivito550 wrote: »

People are missing my original point about the Euros. Its not about football. It's not about the tournament. It's not about the economy. It's not about sightseeing in various cities, standing up to a corrupt organisation or whatever other sh1te was spouted.

It's simply symbolic of how far the rest of Europe is ahead of Ireland with regards lifting restrictions - countries with similar vaccination rates to Ireland.

That is the point I was making.

So what ?

Can you name all these countries in Europe that apparently are easing their restrictions simultaneously ?

JRant

charlie14 wrote: »

So did UEFA turn down the offer from both Ireland and Bilbao for reasons of finance or do you not know ?
European countries were playing their various leagues in empty stadiums, so why the sudden change from EUFA in the demand for attendances ?

I just told you the reason why.

Also, European leagues were gradually allowing more fans into games while we were still wetting the bed even thinking about allowing outdoor dining. The champions league final had ~20k. Premier league games had increased number of fans by the season end, same for Spain, Germany, etc, etc.

gozunda

niallo27 wrote: »

I don't think you should be talking on behalf of an organisation than you can't even spell.

Comments like that always make me think of this from a few years back and make me laugh because somethings never change

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056526338/1/#post76668346

That said if your only reply is to have a go at someone's spelling - I think you've lost the argument tbf.

charlie14

niallo27 wrote: »

You have passed a few comments about the organisation but you don't even know who they are.

No more a text book knowledge of them than any other sporting organisation, but I fail to see what that has to do with questioning why they turned down what Ireland and Bilbao offered them

JRant

charlie14 wrote: »

So what ?

Can you name all these countries in Europe that apparently are easing their restrictions simultaneously ?

Again, things that were never said. How can you consistently not understand the points people are making?

JRant

gozunda wrote: »

Comments like that always make me think of this from a few years back and make me laugh

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056526338/1/#post76668346

That said if your only reply is to have a go at someone's spelling - I think you've lost the argument tbf.

Hehe, how's that event crowd size relative to population size working out for you?
This might help.

https://youtu.be/e4XFUc6175k

By the way, anyone that thinks they've "won" an argument on the internet isn't doing it right.

charlie14

JRant wrote: »

I just told you the reason why.

Also, European leagues were gradually allowing more fans into games while we were still wetting the bed even thinking about allowing outdoor dining. The champions league final had ~20k. Premier league games had increased number of fans by the season end, same for Spain, Germany, etc, etc.

Not what I asked you.
Did UEFA turn down both Ireland and Bilbao based on finances from gate receipts or do you not know ?