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Steven Spielberg's West Side Story

  • 26-04-2021 7:48pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭ py2006


    I remember reading about this, didn't realise it was coming out already. First musical for aul Steven too.


    An adaptation of the 1957 musical, West Side Story explores forbidden love and the rivalry between the Jets and the Sharks, two teenage street gangs of different ethnic backgrounds.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭ jasonb


    Oh, don't know how I feel about this, hadn't heard of it until know. West Side Story is *the* classic take on Romeo & Juliet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,253 ✭✭✭✭ branie2


    I hope it's great


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,253 ✭✭✭✭ branie2


    Maria's party dress - like the one Natalie Wood wore in the original


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Strange decision - or at least, it seems strange to me at first blush - for Spielberg to not only take a swing at a musical at this stage in his career, but to remake a hallowed entry at that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,253 ✭✭✭✭ branie2


    I wonder if the songs will be in the original order as in the broadway version - in the 1961 film, Gee Officer came before the rumble, and Cool after it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭ jasonb


    After my initial reaction I've read up about this and it seems like they aim to be truer to the initial Broadway play than the film. It'll be interesting to see it, but going up against such a classic it's going to have to knock it out of the park to be considered a success. However, Spielberg clearly knows what he's doing and obviously the source material is excellent, so it could be amazing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭ The Phantom Pain


    I'm sorry, I know it's Spielberg but he has no business remaking or adapting this classic.
    Don't want.


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭ Wedwood


    I’ve seen all of Spielberg’s movies over the years and the only real misfire was his comedy ‘1941’ starring John Belushi. (Crystal Skull has its detractors but it’s still a critical and financial hit)

    You could split his career into two halves, the movies he made up to Saving Private Ryan in 1998 and everything he made afterwards. There’s very few movies in the second part of his career that I would rate over his first half. I’m not suggesting they are bad movies, but he doesn’t knock it out of the park like he did in the 70s/80’s/90’s.

    That said, I’m looking forward to seeing his unexpected take on what you could describe as movie royalty. There aren’t too many remakes of classic movies that compare well with the originals. (Eg Psycho, King Kong, Ben-Hur)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭ The Phantom Pain


    Wedwood wrote: »
    I’ve seen all of Spielberg’s movies over the years and the only real misfire was his comedy ‘1941’ starring John Belushi. (Crystal Skull has its detractors but it’s still a critical and financial hit)

    You could split his career into two halves, the movies he made up to Saving Private Ryan in 1998 and everything he made afterwards. There’s very few movies in the second part of his career that I would rate over his first half. I’m not suggesting they are bad movies, but he doesn’t knock it out of the park like he did in the 70s/80’s/90’s.

    That said, I’m looking forward to seeing his unexpected take on what you could describe as movie royalty. There aren’t too many remakes of classic movies that compare well with the originals. (Eg Psycho, King Kong, Ben-Hur)

    "Unexpected take?"
    It looks exactly the same.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 17,391 Mod ✭✭✭✭ The Black Oil


    Presumably, Ansel Elgort won't be involved much in the promotion, given the allegations against him last year.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,235 CMod ✭✭✭✭ johnny_ultimate


    Given the trailer conforms to modern expectations and includes a slow, moody piano version of a recognisable song... I'm just angry it wasn't a slow, moody piano version of Gee, Officer Krupke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭ El Rifle


    Wedwood wrote: »
    I’ve seen all of Spielberg’s movies over the years and the only real misfire was his comedy ‘1941’ starring John Belushi. (Crystal Skull has its detractors but it’s still a critical and financial hit)

    You could split his career into two halves, the movies he made up to Saving Private Ryan in 1998 and everything he made afterwards. There’s very few movies in the second part of his career that I would rate over his first half. I’m not suggesting they are bad movies, but he doesn’t knock it out of the park like he did in the 70s/80’s/90’s.

    That said, I’m looking forward to seeing his unexpected take on what you could describe as movie royalty. There aren’t too many remakes of classic movies that compare well with the originals. (Eg Psycho, King Kong, Ben-Hur)

    He stopped directing after 1998, that was when Senor Spielbergo took over


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Spielberg's latter-day work seems to shuttle from sombre, solid "grown-up" films like Bridge of Spies or The Post, and flaccid blockbusters like Ready Player One or The BFG. His heart hasn't seemed in these bigger productions, maybe. more enjoying his scaled back work - so to take on the biggest musical in modern times seems brave.

    IMO, 2011's Tintin is possibly an underrated entry in his late-career work; dunno whether it was just the relatively unknown IP - or how his friend Robert Zemeckis caused a huge backlash against "realistic" CGI - but either way, the film deserves more praise than it got.

    As to the rest of his post "Ryan" work? War of the Worlds is fantastic, and arguably the best adaptation of the original material; Catch Me if You can is distilled cinematic fun and eminently re-watchable; while AI was his most enigmatic and complex work in years. The coldness of Kubricks script clashing with Spielberg's constant desire to ramp up the heart.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,235 CMod ✭✭✭✭ johnny_ultimate


    Spielberg has a lot of forgettable and misguided fare in the 2010s particularly (and Ready Player One is IMO quite a nadir in that regard). But I would suggest the double bill of Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can in one year was the man firing on all cylinders still (I'd take both films over most of his often sickly sentimental 'prestige' fare), with scattered good to great films for the rest of that decade.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Spielberg has a lot of forgettable and misguided fare in the 2010s particularly (and Ready Player One is IMO quite a nadir in that regard). But I would suggest the double bill of Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can in one year was the man firing on all cylinders still (I'd take both films over most of his often sickly sentimental 'prestige' fare), with scattered good to great films for the rest of that decade.

    Minority Report is a great movie, as long as you quieten the part of your brain that tries to work out the time-travel logic once the credits roll. Especially once the twists and truths come out in the last act; cos IIRC, the entire structure of the plot fails significant smell tests once you apply the smallest amounts of "wait, if X happened, then that means Y..."


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,517 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Sad Professor


    Agree about Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can, both among his best.

    Re: Tintin, I am suspicious of live action directors who direct animated films and always assume that there's an lowly credited animation director doing most of the actual work.

    Anyway it's been a while since I was excited for a Spielberg film and this is no exception.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭ MfMan


    Because Minority Report and 'Catch Me..' star the gurners Cruise and LDC, I can't take them seriously among Spielberg's cannon. A.I one of his most underrated I feel.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭ quickbeam


    Presumably, Ansel Elgort won't be involved much in the promotion, given the allegations against him last year.

    I certainly hope that wouldn't prevent him from being involved in promotion.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,517 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Sad Professor




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭ Need a Username


    Anytime there is remake there are people complaining (justifiably) for various reasons.

    This thread is the first place I’ve seen comments against this film.

    Empire even had a complaint in their report about Disney’s Flight of the Navigator remake while further down the page no such comments in an article about this movie.

    As to why Spielberg is remaking a solid gold classic? Probably because the original is good that he thinks this increases his chance for an award. That seems to be all he is interested in.



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Has Spielberg made a musical ? Could simply be the case he never has and thought f*ck it, I wanna try while I still can. He has touched every other genre at this stage. They're vaguely back in fashion too, so probably figured he would meet less resistance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭ py2006


    It looks stunning I have to say, as in the cinematography



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,686 ✭✭✭ PlentyOhToole


    While the original was made long before I was dreamed up, it was the version we all grew up with- but I do get the attempt at a remake in that many many younger people will never sit down to watch the original -it’s not shown on TV that much and anyway younger people don’t watch TV like older people did- in fact there’s a whole rake of Hollywood classic movies from the 1940s onwards that just won’t interest people who grew up with CGI and great production values- they just won’t have the patience for an outdated looking film

    I think this brings a great story to a new generation of viewers who may never have watched the original so that can’t be too bad- can it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,878 ✭✭✭ conorhal


    He's always aspired to make a musical, so much so that he turned the opening of Temple of Doom into a Busby Berkeley inspired big stage musical number of 'Anything Goes'. People often forget just how wierd it is that an Indiana Jones movie opens with a fantasy musical number, just because the director fancied making one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,447 ✭✭✭✭ expectationlost


    very little dancing in that trailer, which was the stand out in the original I guess he going more for the story.



  • Registered Users Posts: 56,377 ✭✭✭✭ Agent Coulson


    Looks stunning, Keeping the signing and dancing for the actual film by the looks of it.


    Great to see Rita Moreno in it who rarely gets mentioned when the lists of the greatest actors are talked about.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭ p to the e


    Having a slightly older sister I grew up watching and enjoying musicals of all types (Grease 2 being a guilty pleasure) but I just never liked West Side Story. I never got the love for it and am baffled that it's judged a classic. This new version looks beautiful thanks to Spielbergo working with his frequent collaborator Janusz Kamiński. I remember previously saying how I loved his work on Saving Private Ryan and someone saying he was basically a hack copying other people's ideas/motifs. Well hopefully this converts the unconverted.

    As a note I read that a recent Broadway version cut the song "I feel pretty" because reasons so I wonder if it's removed from this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 75,453 ✭✭✭✭ JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users Posts: 27,950 ✭✭✭✭ gmisk


    I saw this morning.

    I loved every minute of it.....there are a lot of minutes! It's a long film, but it looks gorgeous and I loved the staging of the songs. If you don't like musicals this isn't for you.

    Elgort has a really good voice (I had only heard him sing a dance song with Don diablo before) bags of charisma as well.

    Rachel Zegler wow.



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