Not Another Leinster vs Munster build-up/match thread Sat 24th April 7:35pm

thomond2006

aloooof

pickarooney wrote: »

Saturday 26th?

I said about. ABOUT!

(You really get away with nothing around here )

Teferi

Teferi wrote: »

This is edging towards 'could Leinster beat the All Blacks' territory.

Could 15 harry byrne's beat a world 15 (minus harry byrne of coarse)

arsebiscuits1

The Inbetween is mine wrote: »

Since CJ is contracted to Munster until June 27th....I presume the IRFU would only get a portion of this fee?

No idea if that rate is pro rota or not.

I'd let the bean counters fight that one out haha

Clegg

Looks like the South African sides won't be travelling to Europe for round 4 of the Rainbow Cup. Do these inter-pro derbies even happen now? Leinster need this game as preparation for next week.

thomond2006

Clegg wrote: »

Looks like the South African sides won't be travelling to Europe for round 4 of the Rainbow Cup. Do these inter-pro derbies even happen now? Leinster need this game as preparation for next week.

They'll revert to a Pro12 Cup. That was the contingency I believe.

thomond2006

Tadhg Beirne has returned to team training after rehabbing a rib injury he sustained in the Heineken Champions Cup clash with Toulouse.

RG Snyman has progressed to the final stages of his rehab from a long-term knee injury and will be reviewed for a possible return to squad training next week.

On the Academy front lock Thomas Ahern is unavailable for training this week as he continues to rehab a knee injury, while prop Josh Wycherley (neck) will increase his training load with a decision on his availability for Saturday’s match to be made later in the week.

Continuing to rehab: RG Snyman (Knee), Neil Cronin (Knee), Paddy Patterson (Ankle)

https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2021/04/20/squad-update-munster-prepare-for-leinster-at-the-rds/

.ak

Buer wrote: »

I agree that a Leinster versus an Ulster/Munster select would be interesting but I'd back Leinster to pinch it.

The first XV generally beats the reserves in fairness.

thegreycity

I honestly think a combined Ulster & Munster team would stand a good chance, if they are all playing at once. I mean it's 30 players against 15, they have to at least be competitive.

sebdavis

Munster have to go into this game as clear favourites

Former Former Former

sebdavis wrote: »

Munster have to go into this game as clear favourites

because....?

It will all depend on the teams named. If Leinster rest everyone for Europe, then Munster will be favourites.

As of now, Paddy Power has Leinster as 7-point favourites.

The inevitability of this match feels like the most recent Ireland v England game. I was expecting England to physically dominate Ireland as per usual. I'm expecting Leinster to physically dominate Munster as per usual... but we all know how that England game went

Clegg

Munster need the win far more than Leinster at this stage. I expect them to have as strong a team as possible while Leinster will be more of a mix n match side of recently injured players needing match fitness and some first teams needing a bit of extra sharpness.

FrannoFan

Clegg wrote: »

Munster need the win far more than Leinster at this stage. I expect them to have as strong a team as possible while Leinster will be more of a mix n match side of recently injured players needing match fitness and some first teams needing a bit of extra sharpness.

if leinster were considered to be distracted by europe last time they certainly are this time.

I'd wait and see what team selection is like before trying to call a favourite.

I'd expect a fairly mixed bag from leinster. Like if gibson park a doubt for next week there is no way Luke mcgrath plays this. Can't see Henshaw or Healy playing either.

molloyjh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The inevitability of this match feels like the most recent Ireland v England game. I was expecting England to physically dominate Ireland as per usual. I'm expecting Leinster to physically dominate Munster as per usual... but we all know how that England game went

Yeah but Englands form in the 6Ns wasn't great. A lot of people have overblown that win tbh. England were very poor, as they were for most of the tournament. Leinster on the other hand....

Podge_irl

FrannoFan wrote: »

if leinster were considered to be distracted by europe last time they certainly are this time.

I'd wait and see what team selection is like before trying to call a favourite.

I'd expect a fairly mixed bag from leinster. Like if gibson park a doubt for next week there is no way Luke mcgrath plays this. Can't see Henshaw or Healy playing either.

Considering Leinster's biggest problem against Exeter was the awful start, I expect they will play close to their first team.

BoardsMember

molloyjh wrote: »

Yeah but Englands form in the 6Ns wasn't great. A lot of people have overblown that win tbh. England were very poor, as they were for most of the tournament. Leinster on the other hand....

Completely agree. The narrative moved very quickly from how poor we were to how great we are. Very little reflection on how poor England were, and how many things went our way in that game. We were good alright, but remains to be seen how good we are.

England had their mid World cup cycle 'couldn't give a ****e' year and I wouldn't be surprised if it's back to normal service from them next season. They were dire against everyone bar France and I wouldn't read too much into our win against them (albeit it was great to turn that fixture around).

On the whole, we were good against a Scotland team that caused plenty of difficulty in the competition this year, we had Wales beaten bar for a moment of utter madness that cost us the game. We very nearly put France away despite some hugely problematic injuries and a couple of awful performances.

Jury is still out on what Ireland is trying to do at the moment, but the England game doesn't really answer any questions for me. Our set piece not being a shambles is the big success story this six nations, not the England game. We're able to create a platform now - when we figure out how to use it I'll start to have some expectations.

sebdavis

[Deleted User] wrote: »

England had their mid World cup cycle 'couldn't give a ****e' year and I wouldn't be surprised if it's back to normal service from them next season. They were dire against everyone bar France and I wouldn't read too much into our win against them (albeit it was great to turn that fixture around).

On the whole, we were good against a Scotland team that caused plenty of difficulty in the competition this year, we had Wales beaten bar for a moment of utter madness that cost us the game. We very nearly put France away despite some hugely problematic injuries and a couple of awful performances.

Jury is still out on what Ireland is trying to do at the moment, but the England game doesn't really answer any questions for me. Our set piece not being a shambles is the big success story this six nations, not the England game. We're able to create a platform now - when we figure out how to use it I'll start to have some expectations.

I do agree with you but not sure what it’s got to do with Leinster v Munster :-)

.ak

I think munster will have a great chance TBH, leinster will go through the motions, unless they pick fringe players who’ll be screaming to go on the plane to France.

Leinster fans trying to be underdogs iv seen this before

sydthebeat

Jamari Quick Remote wrote: »

Leinster fans trying to be underdogs iv seen this before

This isn't a final for us....

Our final will be at the end of May

stephen_n

thegreycity wrote: »

I honestly think a combined Ulster & Munster team would stand a good chance, if they are all playing at once. I mean it's 30 players against 15, they have to at least be competitive.

Not of JJ is kicking.

aloooof

sydthebeat wrote: »

This isn't a final for us....

Our final will be at the end of May

It’s not exactly a final for Munster either tho, but for different reasons. A win would be a step in the right direction, but not much more given the recent history of the fixture, imo.

Dave_The_Sheep

And Leinster aren't in any finals yet anyway.

Former Former Former

Jamari Quick Remote wrote: »

Leinster fans trying to be underdogs iv seen this before

Shure we're just glad to still be in the hunt at the end of April, anything else is a bonus.

sydthebeat

sydthebeat wrote: »

This isn't a final for us....

Our final will be at the end of May

Ya and the pro 14 final barely mattered to ye also

sebdavis

Jamari Quick Remote wrote: »

Ya and the pro 14 final barely mattered to ye also

It turned out to be more of a training match than anything else

Former Former Former

Jamari Quick Remote wrote: »

Ya and the pro 14 final barely mattered to ye also

Based on the performance of the Munster lads, it didn't seem to matter to them either...

guapos

Munster in with a chance
https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1385548979556036608?s=19

thegreycity

That is a very second string team from Leinster, thought they'd use it as more of a run out for the team to play La Rochelle.

sebdavis

Harry Byrne starting will be interesting

dub_skav

Not exactly 1st choice Leinster side, but 9 and 10 the only spots with guys who have not seen significant minutes.

Strong team with returning players getting a go and the big minutes players getting a rest.

scott1974

thegreycity wrote: »

That is a very second string team from Leinster, thought they'd use it as more of a run out for the team to play La Rochelle.

Hugh O'Sullivan doesn't inspire me with confidence.
A very mixed selection overall, good to see Doris back.

There's what, two Leinster players in Lowe and Ringrose who you'd say are definitely first choice in the positions they're starting in? Doris is the only forward who is first choice. Munster have to win this.

Larbre34

This is on Eir presumably?

arsebiscuits1

Paris Flaky Quicksand wrote: »

There's what, two Leinster players in Lowe and Ringrose who you'd say are definitely first choice in the positions they're starting in? Doris is the only forward who is first choice. Munster have to win this.

Ryan Baird and Dave Kearney would both be strong candidates too in fairness.

But your point still stands.

Clegg

Delighted to see Doris back. Ireland really missed him during the Six Nations.

And Leinster are finally regaining a little but if depth in the backrow.

theVersatile

JOD for Coombes is a weird one, as is the presence of Barron and Nash on the bench.

Dubinusa

Munster going balls to the wall! Didn't expect that! I would think they should win this one. I was expecting to see Josh Wycherly and Crowley get the nod. I was thinking Knox would start , but it's good to see he's on the bench.
Leinster trying to get the injured lads back into the running. I think it will be a good match. Probably a score between them.

arsebiscuits1

Half backs will be the making of this.

It's great to see Harry get a chance with some real experience around him.

But I don't rate HOS enough to think he will give Harry much help here.

thomond2006

theVersatile wrote: »

JOD for Coombes is a weird one, as is the presence of Barron and Nash on the bench.

I think the lineup reflects a psychological need to win and an eye on development. We desperately need to look at options in the frontrow in particular and the bench reflects that.

The players who are leaving in the summer are all left out which is the correct thing to do.

sebdavis

Larbre34 wrote: »

This is on Eir presumably?

Yes they have it till end of season

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

I think the lineup reflects a psychological need to win and an eye on development. We desperately need to look at options in the frontrow in particular and the bench reflects that.

The players who are leaving in the summer are all left out which is the correct thing to do.

Stander is playing. Coombes was miles better than him last time against Leinster too.

Jump_In_Jack

thomond2006 wrote: »

I think the lineup reflects a psychological need to win and an eye on development. We desperately need to look at options in the frontrow in particular and the bench reflects that.

The players who are leaving in the summer are all left out which is the correct thing to do.

Stander

Buer

So Sexton and JGP aren't going to be playing next week, it appears. McGrath and Byrne are being wrapped up this weekend.

Interesting teams. I'm a little surprised not to see at least a little more rotation from Munster. It seems they're all in to try and win this match/tournament which I can understand.

Happy to see the Leinster injuries starting to clear a little bit which is the most important thing that Leinster need to take from this match. I'll be interested to see how HB and Sheehan go; good to see them getting game time against a high level of opponent.

arsebiscuits1

I also appear to have blinked and Ross Molony is now the senior player in that pack.

He's the most experienced (by caps) with a full 40 more Leinster caps then Porter.

Seems like the other day he was an up and coming lock haha

thomond2006

Paris Flaky Quicksand wrote: »

Stander is playing. Coombes was miles better than him last time against Leinster too.

D'oh. Stander is playing as he's a candidate for the Lions and the IRFU will want him selected.

I was thinking about the likes of Cronin, Holland and JJ. They would probably make the 23 otherwise.

arsebiscuits1

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I also appear to have blinked and Ross Molony is now the senior player in that pack.

He's the most experienced (by caps) with a full 40 more Leinster caps then Porter.

Seems like the other day he was an up and coming lock haha

Stolen from planet rugby: 390 (Leinster caps) v 1884 (Munster caps) in the starting packs

arsebiscuits1

Paris Flaky Quicksand wrote: »

Stolen from planet rugby: 390 (Leinster caps) v 1884 (Munster caps) in the starting packs

Saw it on LF too - maybe the same poster?

As he was wrong and corrected himself lol.

It's 1084 Munster caps.

For the pack to have a combined total of 1884 each player would need an average of over 230 caps lol