Housemate kept package

Surreptitious

Close the thread please

Tusky

You're overreacting - you don't know what is going on in her life or why she didn't drop the package in. If it happens again then do something about it.

con747

If it wasn't opened She can just say she forgot about it. If it was opened that's against the law to interfere with someone else's mail afaik.

Claw Hammer

Surreptitious wrote: »

I had a tracked package and it said delivered on the update. However I didn't receive it.
Should I ring the guards? What happens if she does it again, she could have form for this type of stuff. I think she should be kicked out of the house anyway.

You should go to the guards and give a written complaint. No good ringing.

Ckendrick

Surreptitious wrote: »

I had a tracked package and it said delivered on the update. However I didn't receive it.
I got onto An Post and nobody seemed to know what was going on. Today, the postman called and told me he had given to a girl living here. He went up and tried to get her to come out and she didn't answer the door. I had to ring the landlady and it turns out she had kept the package for nearly a week in her flat.
I got it back but that isn't the point. What should I do about this? She is from Brazil, I am not sure which one she is living here. I'm pretty sure it's illegal as I looked it up there. Should I ring the guards? What happens if she does it again, she could have form for this type of stuff. I think she should be kicked out of the house anyway.

She took your package from the delivery guy and put it in her room. Then she forgot about it.
Then when you found out it was she, you tried to contact her but she wasn’t in her room.
Then you got the landlord to illegally break into her room in her absence , you rummaged around in her belongings, found the package, and now you want her punished in some way or/and at least thrown out of the house.
When you asked her what happened, what did she say?
I also wonder what her being from Brazil has to do with any of this?

GBX

If it was opened thats illegal.
If it wasnt, the Garda wont do anything. Nor will the landlady, you received it in the end. Cant see somebody being removed from a house because of that. If it was happening regularly perhaps?

Buddy Bubs

I did something similar to a neighbour once, delivered to me by accident. Put it on top of my fridge, forgot to give it to her and she asked me, oh yeah, forgot about that. Gave it to her and that was the end of that.

Bubbaclaus

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

I did something similar to a neighbour once, delivered to me by accident. Put it on top of my fridge, forgot to give it to her and she asked me, oh yeah, forgot about that. Gave it to her and that was the end of that.

Did she contact MI6 or Interpol on you for this horrible crime?

BabysCoffee

There's no crime here.

She took in your package for you.

And you now have your package.

End of.

buttercups88

This is why the first thing an post ask you to do is check with neighbours if a parcel goes missing. If you are getting something delivered to your address and your not there to receive it be thankful your neighbours took it for you. Maybe look at getting a mail delivery box from an post they're about €70 you attach it to your house and any items that need to be signed for or are too big to fit in letterbox cam be delivered to it.

Buddy Bubs

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Did she contact MI6 or Interpol on you for this horrible crime?

No, we communicated, despite her being Polish and me being Irish and got it sorted. Agree this thread is way over the top based on info given.

Pinoy adventure

She could of said no too the delivery driver.she done you a favor and that's the way you repay her !
Your being racist saying she is from Brazil

Witcher

Best off refusing to take a parcel in for a neighbour now apparently.

con747

From this post OP you say https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=116879775 she had the parcel since Thursday, and as you say she just moved in? Well maybe she was a bit busy over the weekend and just forgot about it. I would be careful saying she "stole" it as you did in your other post anywhere else or you could be in trouble.

Ckendrick

Buddy Bubs wrote: »

No, we communicated, despite her being Polish and me being Irish and got it sorted. Agree this thread is way over the top based on info given.

From the Brazilian girls point of view, Threshold might be interested in the concept of the OP and the landlord illegally breaking into her room and interfering with her property in her absence.
The OP had better hope there’s nothing missing or damaged in there because I think that definitely is actionable.

Surreptitious

Ckendrick wrote: »

She took your package from the delivery guy and put it in her room. Then she forgot about it.
Then when you found out it was she, you tried to contact her but she wasn’t in her room.
Then you got the landlord to illegally break into her room in her absence , you rummaged around in her belongings, found the package, and now you want her punished in some way or/and at least thrown out of the house.
When you asked her what happened, what did she say?
I also wonder what her being from Brazil has to do with any of this?

None of this happened? Except for the first line.

Surreptitious

Ckendrick wrote: »

From the Brazilian girls point of view, Threshold might be interested in the concept of the OP and the landlord illegally breaking into her room and interfering with her property in her absence.
The OP had better hope there’s nothing missing or damaged in there because I think that definitely is actionable.

Nobody broke into her room?

Treppen

I used to recieve neighbors packages every other week, then at the start , spending the following days calling in and dropping in notes till eventually I could hand it over.

Eventually I just gave up being the package center and refused to take them, the odd time the postman would try and trick me and hand me the package and run away as if it was for me, so I opened packages/ letters aswell in error the odd time (they had no letter box on door and a box thing on the wall that was always stuffed with junk mail)... Sometimes I would get the package and throw it on my counter and not bother until she came looking a few weeks after. Other times I'd just throw the letters back into the post box.

I wouldn't mind but half the time the neighbor would be in bed hungover and not arsed answering the door.

So ya op, get over it, no crime. Just make arrangements when you're not in.

Ckendrick

Surreptitious wrote: »

Nobody broke into her room?

The landlord came to the property and let the op in to her locked room.

leggo

YTA.

Oh sorry wrong website...

Ehhh...YTA. That’s all I have to say.

Buddy Bubs

Ckendrick wrote: »

The landlord came to the property and let the op in to her locked room.

Don't think that was said at all apart from by a responding poster jumping to conclusions

wally1990

"She is from brazil, I am not sure which one she is living here. I'm pretty sure it's illegal as I looked it up there. Should I ring the guards? What happens if she does it again, she could have form for this type of stuff. I think she should be kicked out of the house anyway."


Christ almighty

Marcusm

Ckendrick wrote: »

The landlord came to the property and let the op in to her locked room.

The only poster who suggested this was you. It was not in the OP nor is it a reasonable inference from the OP.

Calahonda52

Surreptitious wrote: »

I had a tracked package and it said delivered on the update. However I didn't receive it.
I got onto An Post and nobody seemed to know what was going on. Today, the postman called and told me he had given to a girl living here. He went up and tried to get her to come out and she didn't answer the door. I had to ring the landlady and it turns out she had kept the package for nearly a week in her flat.
I got it back but that isn't the point. What should I do about this? She is from Brazil, I am not sure which one she is living here. I'm pretty sure it's illegal as I looked it up there. Should I ring the guards? What happens if she does it again, she could have form for this type of stuff. I think she should be kicked out of the house anyway.

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OP, who gave you the package?
As for her being from Brazil and all the vitriol in the text that stems from that...

NewbridgeIR

Occasionally I will take a package in for my neighbour.

And he will do the same for me.

We always drop them over to each other on the day of receipt, not hang on to them for days on end. Not difficult to do.

Surreptitious

Can we close the thread please?

She lives in the building with me and never left the post on the hall table but took it to her flat.
She is wrong that's why the landlady was furious.

Treppen

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

Occasionally I will take a package in for my neighbour.

And he will do the same for me.

We always drop them over to each other on the day of receipt, not hang on to them for days on end. Not difficult to do.

That's a mutual agreement with your neighbor. The "Brazilian" lady had no such agreement to drop in the package that day, or the next day, or the next. If you want it come and look for it, she's not the postman.

Surreptitious

Treppen wrote: »

That's a mutual agreement with your neighbor. The "Brazilian" lady had no such agreement to drop in the package that day, or the next day, or the next. If you want it come and look for it, she's not the postman.

She is in this house. She should have left it in the hall. The reason I mentioned brazil is we were trying to work out which tenant took it. I answer the door all the time for the others and I don't take their stuff.

NewbridgeIR

Treppen wrote: »

That's a mutual agreement with your neighbor. The "Brazilian" lady had no such agreement to drop in the package that day, or the next day, or the next. If you want it come and look for it, she's not the postman.

It just evolved. If it was a one-off, I wouldn't feel comfortable hanging on someone's else's package. I'd want to make sure it got to the recipient. And if they're in the same house, it's no real hardship to go downstairs and hand it over.

Surreptitious

Can we close the thread please?

Apparently I am wrong for someone taking my post and keeping it.

Bubbaclaus

Surreptitious wrote: »

Can we close the thread please?

Apparently I am wrong for someone taking my post and keeping it.

If you want to call to guards and/or have someone kicked out of the house over something as benign as this then yes, you are wrong.

dkav9

Surreptitious wrote: »

Can we close the thread please?

Apparently I am wrong for someone taking my post and keeping it.

You have your post, she didn't keep it

Claw Hammer

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

If you want to call to guards and/or have someone kicked out of the house over something as benign as this then yes, you are wrong.

So it is wrong to have a thief removed from a house?

BabysCoffee

Claw Hammer wrote: »

So it is wrong to have a thief removed from a house?

There is no thief because there is no theft. The OP has their property

Surreptitious

dkav9 wrote: »

You have your post, she didn't keep it

She kept it for a week only she was caught and had to give it back.

Smee_Again

Surreptitious wrote: »

She kept it for a week only she was caught and had to give it back.

She was probably waiting for someone to come looking for it.

You seem overly dramatic and would probably be moaning if she had left it in the hall.

Caranica

Is she your actual housemate or someone who lives in a different flat in the same building?

tipptom

Anyhoo what was in the package,anything nice?

Surreptitious

Smee_Again wrote: »

She was probably waiting for someone to come looking for it.

You seem overly dramatic and would probably be moaning if she had left it in the hall.

She should not have taken it. Full stop. Do you realise the postman had to actually come in and knock on her door to see what happened. He could have got in trouble in his job. She refused to answer the door to him. Why would she wait? That doesn't even make sense, why take a package and wait for people to come looking for it.

Caranica wrote: »

Is she your actual housemate or someone who lives in a different flat in the same building?

Different flat in the same building. When we get post we leave it in the hall. Nobody has ever taken anyone's packages before to their flat.

retro:electro

Unless it was opened then I’d just put it down to her forgetting to give it to you. If she is new then maybe she doesn’t know the procedure of leaving it in the hall. If she opened it though that’s a different matter altogether. Was it opened?

Surreptitious

tipptom wrote: »

Anyhoo what was in the package,anything nice?

Cream for my face.

Surreptitious

retro:electro wrote: »

Unless it was opened then I’d just put it down to her forgetting to give it to you. If she is new then maybe she doesn’t know the procedure of leaving it in the hall. If she opened it though that’s a different matter altogether. Was it opened?

It was a little bit opened but not fully. The landlady told me that she had told her when she moved in to leave post there. So when she found out about it, she was angry. In saying that, maybe she hadn't been at it, could have been delivered like that.

Surreptitious

Thanks to those who tried to help. Not sure about the guy ranting about me breaking in.

Close thread please. It was a once off so I hope it doesn't happen again.

Claw Hammer

BabysCoffee wrote: »

There is no thief because there is no theft. The OP has their property

If somepone steal my property and I get it back, it does not mean there wasn't a theft in the first place.

Smee_Again

Surreptitious wrote: »

She should not have taken it. Full stop. Do you realise the postman had to actually come in and knock on her door to see what happened. He could have got in trouble in his job. She refused to answer the door to him. Why would she wait? That doesn't even make sense, why take a package and wait for people to come looking for it.

She didn't take it, it was given to her by the person paid to deliver it.

Because she's just moved in, doesn't know any of you in the building, has her own stuff to be dealing with. Lots of reasons why.

I'll take your word that she refused to answer and just wasn't there. And maybe she didn't answer because she didn't want to receive another package.

Caranica

Surreptitious wrote: »

Different flat in the same building. When we get post we leave it in the hall. Nobody has ever taken anyone's packages before to their flat.

Thread title is incorrect and misleading so. Big difference between that and being a housemate.

Being devil's advocate here, if the postman could identify her what would have happened if she'd left it on the hall table and someone else had taken it? She'd be getting the blame then too. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Surreptitious

Smee_Again wrote: »

She didn't take it, it was given to her by the person paid to deliver it.

Because she's just moved in, doesn't know any of you in the building, has her own stuff to be dealing with. Lots of reasons why.

I'll take your word that she refused to answer and just wasn't there. And maybe she didn't answer because she didn't want to receive another package.

The postman never enters the building so it wouldn't have been him banging on her flat door to give her post. She is up the top of the building. The one she moved in with knows me, my flat number is on my door and on the package. Unless she is brain damaged she should have left it in the hall or knocked on my door. It took days of contacting An Post and the poor postman actually had to call here and go upstairs to find out what happened. Your logic is just flawed and you are picking holes in what is the truth.

Smee_Again

Surreptitious wrote: »

The postman never enters the building so it wouldn't have been him banging on her flat door to give her post. She is up the top of the building. The one she moved in with knows me, my flat number is on my door and on the package. Unless she is brain damaged she should have left it in the hall or knocked on my door. It took days of contacting An Post and the poor postman actually had to call here and go upstairs to find out what happened. Your logic is just flawed and you are picking holes in what is the truth.

The postman gave it to her, you said that yourself so it isn't theft.

Brain damaged, that's charming from the fella who didn't think to ask the people living in his building if they'd received his package that was delivered.

Claw Hammer

Smee_Again wrote: »

The postman gave it to her, you said that yourself so it isn't theft.

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Just because the postman gave it to her does not mean that it is noth theft. The essence of theft is dishonest appropriation. taking it into her room and not telling the o/p is dishonest appropriation.

GM228

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Just because the postman gave it to her does not mean that it is noth theft. The essence of theft is dishonest appropriation. taking it into her room and not telling the o/p is dishonest appropriation.

+1, the same way that finding something and keeping it can also be theft.

Midnight_EG

Surreptitious wrote: »

The postman never enters the building so it wouldn't have been him banging on her flat door to give her post. She is up the top of the building. The one she moved in with knows me, my flat number is on my door and on the package. Unless she is brain damaged she should have left it in the hall or knocked on my door. It took days of contacting An Post and the poor postman actually had to call here and go upstairs to find out what happened. Your logic is just flawed and you are picking holes in what is the truth.

You sound like a lovely person to live near