VW ID.Buzz

forestgirl

I like the look of the id buzz for my next car but having driven diesels for years and years I'm terrified simply due to the thought of having to plug in my car to charge it must be an awful pain ,so to all you ev people do you sometimes wish you could just turn back the clock and rock on up to the local petrol station and even drop €20 into your tank and be on your way and not wake up in the morning with the feeling of absolute dread that you forgot to charge your car

Black_Knight

forestgirl wrote: »

I like the look of the id buzz for my next car but having driven diesels for years and years I'm terrified simply due to the thought of having to plug in my car to charge it must be an awful pain ,so to all you ev people do you sometimes wish you could just turn back the clock and rock on up to the local petrol station and even drop €20 into your tank and be on your way and not wake up in the morning with the feeling of absolute dread that you forgot to charge your car

Guarantee 99% of those who drive EVs should never wish to go back to petrol/Diesel.

Plugging in to charge takes seconds, not sure why you're getting so wound up about it. Do other trivial tasks tend to terrify you in your day to day life?

forestgirl

Black_Knight wrote: »

Guarantee 99% of those who drive EVs should never wish to go back to petrol/Diesel.

Plugging in to charge takes seconds, not sure why you're getting so wound up about it. Do other trivial tasks tend to terrify you in your day to day life?

I thought the full charging takes a good few hours and you could stop off at a charger when travelling to get a quick charge but I just assumed even a quick charge like that could take at least 40mins? Correct me if I am wrong
It's not like petrol or diesel in the way you can see if you have 100km left in tank you can travel 100km but from what I've read if you have 100km left in your electric car you may only be able to tr also depending on the colder weather

Why would I be wound up I only asked a question 🀔

graememk

forestgirl wrote: »

I thought the full charging takes a good few hours and you could stop off at a charger when travelling to get a quick charge but I just assumed even a quick charge like that could take at least 40mins? Correct me if I am wrong
It's not like petrol or diesel in the way you can see if you have 100km left in tank you can travel 100km but from what I've read if you have 100km left in your electric car you may only be able to tr also depending on the colder weather

Home charging is a bit like charging your phone at night. But would never choose to go back to petrol/diesel.

Our car is an eNiro, and depending on milage it's charged 1-2 times a week. (Normal commute is 80km round trip, uses about 20% battery - there is the odd 250km trip )

Car handles the night time charging and then its charged by the morning.. and preheated/cooled.

The range prediction is decent, and it adapts to conditions/driving history. So if it says 100km it's usually pretty accurate. The ones in the ice cars are extremely pessimistic and inaccurate. (An old car of mine I drove 25 miles with it at 0...)

When public charging, you only need to charge as much as you need, there is no minimum. We haven't had to charge publically much, mainly due to covid yet but the only time we only needed about 10% more to get home and we were stopped for about 10 minutes.

Black_Knight

forestgirl wrote: »

I thought the full charging takes a good few hours and you could stop off at a charger when travelling to get a quick charge but I just assumed even a quick charge like that could take at least 40mins? Correct me if I am wrong
It's not like petrol or diesel in the way you can see if you have 100km left in tank you can travel 100km but from what I've read if you have 100km left in your electric car you may only be able to tr also depending on the colder weather

Why would I be wound up I only asked a question ��

Full charging at home takes many hours yes, while you sleep mostly. Zero effort involved.

You can stop off at a charger and get a quick charge (depends how much range you need). If your battery is low enough, you could get 150-200km in 20 minutes. Not as fast as a petrol station, but then again i've owned an EV for a few years now and i've certainly saved time not having to visit a petrol station vs charging at home and a few 20-30 minute fast charges. Quite often when I fast charge I grab a cup of tea and a pastry and visit the toilet, and by that time i'm actually charging the car more than I need.

100km of range generally means pretty much 100km of range. Same as a petrol/diesel car really, I wouldn't run either down to 0.

It seemed you were wound up by your terminology; "terrified", "absolute dread". All over plugging something in.

Steve_hooo

Are the final specs out or is it still a concept car?

odoliam

forestgirl wrote: »

I thought the full charging takes a good few hours and you could stop off at a charger when travelling to get a quick charge but I just assumed even a quick charge like that could take at least 40mins? Correct me if I am wrong
It's not like petrol or diesel in the way you can see if you have 100km left in tank you can travel 100km but from what I've read if you have 100km left in your electric car you may only be able to tr also depending on the colder weather

Why would I be wound up I only asked a question ��

Hi

Practically, this is what you'll do:
1. Arrive home and immediately plug in the car - seconds, as often the charger has the cable attached, so not even fumble about looking for the cable in the boot etc
2. Car charges (can control time, charge % target etc in many cars now via app - set & forget)
3. Need the car for a quick trip to the shop? - car won't drive while still plugged in, so you can't make that mistake. Unplug & off you go.
4. Come home and repeat plug in

Note: most EV's will with 1 charge cover the average persons mileage for up to 1wk (an getting better all the time) so in practice, you only need to plug in 1/wk or less but this is exactly the same need as petrol/diesel - watch the % battery left and plug in when at a certain %

Some people will be plugging in daily (due to their own worries that are completely unfounded - e.g. the regular €10-20 top up) and others will wait until sub-10% (or sub-0% )

cannco253

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35940134/vw-id-buzz-us-on-sale-date/

2. Car charges (can control time, charge % target etc in many cars now via app - set & forget)
Eh not really at the moment with our ID.4 but should get sorted by VW

quokula

I plug in my car overnight (which takes 2 seconds) about once per week or more often if I know I have a particularly long drive coming up, and beyond that I never, ever have to think about range. Honestly it's way more convenient than driving a diesel and having to worry about getting to petrol stations regularly.

If you live somewhere that you can't charge at home, or if you're travelling from one end of the country to the other daily, then an EV is probably not be for you, but honestly you'd be very hard pressed to find an electric car owner who's done the research and decided to buy one, who's then regretted that decision.

biko

Looks cool, I'd probably buy it.
For a time I had the original VW bus. It was a pretty crap drive compared to cars but still such a cool thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQut6ks3nSY

Oafley Jones

I love the look of it. I was hoping that this would have come out to replace our Sharan.

forestgirl

biko wrote: »

Looks cool, I'd probably buy it.
For a time I had the original VW bus. It was a pretty crap drive compared to cars but still such a cool thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQut6ks3nSY

It looks absolutely amazing, now thats what I call a car

sebdavis

It will be my next car.
In regards to the original question, at this stage with the range on these cars you have nothing to worry about. It was only in the early Leaf etc you can concerns.
THe fact you end up with a full tank every morning you leave your house is a huge bonus.

Stealthirl

Early Leaf driver here and to answer you question no i wouldn't go back just for the sake of a 10-15min fill up.
Also love the CONCEPT version of the BUZZ but it'll likely be another 2 years before we know what the real version will be at best

sebdavis

Stealthirl wrote: »

Early Leaf driver here and to answer you question no i wouldn't go back just for the sake of a 10-15min fill up.
Also love the CONCEPT version of the BUZZ but it'll likely be another 2 years before we know what the real version will be at best

It will be out next year, supply will be the issue
The van version will be 2022

cannco253

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/volkswagen-id-buzz-begin-imminent-self-driving-trials

AndyBoBandy

Appearing in the wild…..

https://twitter.com/cole_marzen/status/1408574240799002625?s=21

krissovo

Those photos make it look much more mainstream and more like a T5/6 transporter than a cool 60’s combi throwback. It could be down to being a white panel and a 2 tone paint job will bring it back to life but the front looks like it has lost its mojo.

The buzz was going to be our next EV, I am not so sure now.

Oafley Jones

krissovo wrote: »

Those photos make it look much more mainstream and more like a T5/6 transporter than a cool 60’s combi throwback. It could be down to being a white panel and a 2 tone paint job will bring it back to life but the front looks like it has lost its mojo.

The buzz was going to be our next EV, I am not so sure now.

I really hope that isn’t it and there’s a bunch of camo cladding, because that looks as drab as our sharan. White van man dreary.

the_amazing_raisin

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I really hope that isn’t it and there’s a bunch of camo cladding, because that looks as drab as our sharan. White van man dreary.

I suspect the real Buzz will end up being quite normal looking some it'll inevitably be based on a commercial van

The new T7 multivan looks pretty good tbh, especially with the 2 tone paint job, but it doesn't hold a candle to the Buzz

https://www.carwow.co.uk/volkswagen/news/5337/new-volkswagen-t7-multivan-caravelle-replacement-price-specs-release-date

Black_Knight

Given how close the ID.3 and ID.4 were to their concept car mock ups, it's a little disappointing to see another "leaked" image of the buzz that's way off the concept vehicle.

https://insideevs.com/news/517915/vw-id-buzz-cargo-rendering/

the_amazing_raisin

Yeah that's just the guys at inside EVs playing with Photoshop, must have been a slow news day

It's hard to say which way VW will go, they got such a great response to the concept that they'll probably try to keep as much as they can

But ultimately it's a commercial van first and hippy wagon second, so practically will win out and I suspect they'll keep it fairly conventional

My thinking is the front will end up more van like bit they'll hopefully keep a lot of the styling along the sides and back the same

the_amazing_raisin

Some more spy shots of one of the test vehicles, looks like a lot of the camo has come off

https://carbuzz.com/news/heres-our-first-look-at-vw-id-buzzs-slick-interior

I was a bit meh on the exterior at first but it's growing on me. I think they've tried to keep it in line with the current ID vehicles and keep some of the stuff that made the concept so great

Interior looks lifted straight from the ID.3 or 4, same binnacle and centre screen.

I'm hoping they redesign the center console a bit to make better use of the space. The centre console in the ID.4 manages to have less useful storage than my old Auris from 2007, despite not needing a gear stick or handbrake 😬

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118145879#Comment_118145879

Pity they have had to move the front seats so far back, sort of defeats the old cavernous interior for its size. Damn safety..😁

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118146516#Comment_118146516

Yeah it looks smaller than I expected, I thought it was something transporter sized but it seems shorter than that

daheff

Any word on price/battery size yet?

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118164844#Comment_118164844

No word on price but it seems to have the same wheelbase as the ID.4, so presumably it'll have the same max battery size which is 77kWh useable at the moment

There was some rumour a while ago about an ID.4 with a 95kWh battery, maybe they're banking on an increase in energy density

DermoMIO

No updates on this but the future Mrs got me a 40 piece build your own 1963 VW Bus. The closest I’ll come to a new or original one 😆

whippet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118373007#Comment_118373007

That is lovely

here's my Scalextric version !! Which of course is all electric

cannco253

https://cleantechnica.com/2022/01/06/volkswagen-is-finally-launching-the-id-buzz/

Volkswagen is going to launch the ID. Buzz on March 9, deliveries won't start before Q3 2022 in Europe

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118432833#Comment_118432833

Is it the 9 March? Or have the US media balls up the date

3-9-22 =3rd September in Europe!!

cannco253

It's 9 March

https://insideevs.com/news/559133/vw-idbuzz-debuting-march-9/

AndyBoBandy

How it started vs how it’s seemingly going…..

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469240#Comment_118469240

I’d be very disappointed if it ends up looking like that. Up there with the Fiat Multipla for looks

Plenty of camo on that white van still: Headlamp surrounds and lower bonnet, side lower trim, B/C pillar trim perhaps. Don't slate it until it's seen in the final production form. That being said the ID models so far have not been total lookers but I have high hopes that the Buzz will look better than that especially with a 2 tone paint job like the proto had.

UID0

I was considering this when I saw the prototype, but all of the pre-production photos I've seen look distinctly unimpressive, especially the way the've changed the bonnet to have two distinct faces instead of the single curved face on the prototype (If you look at it from the side you'll see what I mean). It now just looks like a small (slightly uglier) current transporter instead of a reimagining of the original transporter. I'll just have to wait until I see the released model before making my decision.

Black_Knight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118472732#Comment_118472732

Exact same thinking as yourself. Prototype looked cool, and the id3 prototype was pretty close to the finished product, but this! This looks like a transporter wearing camo.

forumdedum

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469240#Comment_118469240

Oh no. Now there's a drop in standard. When is thing on sale anyway?

cannco253

https://www.motor1.com/news/561163/2023-vw-id-buzz-render/

eagerv

The problem with new machines such as this is that while the modern version may be similar size to original version, the interior looks a lot smaller for safety reasons. You look to be driving from well back, similar to a car. Difficult to see room for a double bed and cooking facilities.

In the original version the crumple zone was your legs..☺️

if they are worried about volume sales which they’re quoted as saying they are, then they need to revert to as close to the prototype buzz look as possible- I wouldn’t buy that white version but love the yellow two tone model and they got the front nose brilliantly on that.

Price will also be prohibitive over hear- 75k maybe 80k with extras?

Sorry, over “here” not “hear”

cannco253

https://insideevs.com/news/562360/vw-idbuzz-preproduction-starts-hanover/

"Looking closely at the electric vans featured in the video, you'll notice that one has rear sliding doors on both sides while the other has a sliding door only on the right side. This likely hints at VW showcasing the ID. Buzz in different configurations for the media to assess."

the_amazing_raisin

If they get rid of the plastic bits running along the sides and give it a 2 tone paint job like the rendering then it'll be a winner IMO

The volume will be on the transporter variant anyway, so expect something that look very utilitarian I think

the_amazing_raisin

Looks like the Buzz got spotted in the wild by the Bjorn 😁

https://youtu.be/4i4tL-5NOpc

cannco253

https://electrek.co/2022/01/27/leaked-peek-inside-the-new-vw-id-buzz-before-youre-supposed-to/

charlieIRL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118521297#Comment_118521297

The one in the last link seems to be white over orange suggesting they are going with the 2 tone theme thankfully. Have a look at the pics with the boot door open.

the_amazing_raisin

That's actually pretty nice looking overall.

The flat floor thing in the boot looks like crap, I could see it being put in the shed on day 1

My main concern is the lack of storage. The gap in front of the centre console is pretty useless on the ID4 and it looks like they've made it even more useless here. It'd be much better of they used it for some covered storage IMO

Trying to figure out if the black strip under the 12v in the boot was hiding some AC sockets

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118546103#Comment_118546103

Well spotted, hopefully they keep the same 2 tone scheme all over the outside

cannco253

https://www.motor1.com/news/564843/vw-id-buzz-no-frunk/

no big surprise

UK press getting to see it at the moment, but embargo on reviews

liamog

I'd much rather have increased cabin space over a frunk