Here we go again

dto001

Heres more of it !!!!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/irish-birds-more-endangered-than-ever-before-report-finds-1.4537657


"The kestrel, previously very common in the Irish countryside and easily recognised due to its characteristic hovering flight, is in decline because changes in land use and farming practices have affected their prey. Illegal shooting and poisoning, as well as secondary poisoning, have also caused the kestrel population to decline."

I'd love to know where all the evidence is that illegal shooting is causing the decline in kestrels.

Is there really no way to stop papers printing this crap without evidence to back it up??

otmmyboy2

dto001 wrote: »

Heres more of it !!!!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/irish-birds-more-endangered-than-ever-before-report-finds-1.4537657


"The kestrel, previously very common in the Irish countryside and easily recognised due to its characteristic hovering flight, is in decline because changes in land use and farming practices have affected their prey. Illegal shooting and poisoning, as well as secondary poisoning, have also caused the kestrel population to decline."

I'd love to know where all the evidence is that illegal shooting is causing the decline in kestrels.

Is there really no way to stop papers printing this crap without evidence to back it up??

Thr birdwatch report itself for those curious:
https://birdwatchireland.ie/irish-birds-are-faring-worse-than-ever-before/

I'd be interested in how they got to their shooting conclusions too.

Rows Grower

I just typed in "Kestrel shot Ireland" and this was the story at the top of the page...

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/enniscorthyguardian/news/inquiry-into-shooting-of-barntown-kestrel-39823247.html

tudderone

dto001 wrote: »

Heres more of it !!!!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/irish-birds-more-endangered-than-ever-before-report-finds-1.4537657


"The kestrel, previously very common in the Irish countryside and easily recognised due to its characteristic hovering flight, is in decline because changes in land use and farming practices have affected their prey. Illegal shooting and poisoning, as well as secondary poisoning, have also caused the kestrel population to decline."

I'd love to know where all the evidence is that illegal shooting is causing the decline in kestrels.

Is there really no way to stop papers printing this crap without evidence to back it up??

Its copy and paste journalism.

solarwinds

If any other organisation in Ireland had the crap wrote about them that we do, there would be a swift response from their legal eagles refuting the unfounded and inaccurate statements being printed as fact.
It would be nice if we had the same clout and a retraction printed, but I would imagine an expert would be dug out of somewhere to quote some study in Greenland that proves their point.

solarwinds

Tis a hell of a coincidence all these stories are coming out in the last week or so, the public being drip fed all this negative crap of "hunters planting crops to lure birds just to kill them" and now "hunters shooting birds of prey" and being the sole reason for a supposed decline in numbers.
It smell to me as if someone is doing a hatchet job on us and there is no rebuff to their defamatory comments.

berettaman

solarwinds wrote: »

Tis a hell of a coincidence all these stories are coming out in the last week or so, the public being drip fed all this negative crap of "hunters planting crops to lure birds just to kill them" and now "hunters shooting birds of prey" and being the sole reason for a supposed decline in numbers.
It smell to me as if someone is doing a hatchet job on us and there is no rebuff to their defamatory comments.

This is spot on. They are laying the ground work..

paper will never refuse ink. end

Capercaillie

solarwinds wrote: »

Tis a hell of a coincidence all these stories are coming out in the last week or so, the public being drip fed all this negative crap of "hunters planting crops to lure birds just to kill them" and now "hunters shooting birds of prey" and being the sole reason for a supposed decline in numbers.
It smell to me as if someone is doing a hatchet job on us and there is no rebuff to their defamatory comments.

Nobody has said that hunters the sole reason for decline in birds of prey , I presume you mean kestrel.

tudderone

Capercaillie wrote: »

Nobody has said that hunters the sole reason for decline in birds of prey , I presume you mean kestrel.

Oh god no, but there have been plenty of lies, slights, half truths, twisted truths, propaganda etc about it. A nod and a wink journalism.

Rows Grower

tudderone wrote: »

Oh god no, but there have been plenty of lies, slights, half truths, twisted truths, propaganda etc about it. A nod and a wink journalism.

Where?

Traumadoc

Rows Grower wrote: »

Where?

I presume articles like this:

Wildlife crime unit promised as hundreds of birds of prey shot and poisoned

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/wildlife-crime-unit-promised-as-hundreds-of-birds-of-prey-shot-and-poisoned-39653683.html


There are factually incorrect figures in the article:eg "While an average of 16.5 illegal incidents were detected each month over the 12 years,"

There is also the spin: the headline could have said Hundreds of birds of prey killed by windturbines and poisoning. or Very few birds of prey are found shot.

Bog Trotter99

Put this one up to show the truth about what damage some birds do. The ends quite interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaMa1WHZOUs