Rant

Dinzee Conlee

TooOldBoots wrote: »

If his only option is to torment people with a crow banger then he would be better off finding something else to do. No one has the right to torment people.
Why should anyone put up with noise or smells? It's a form of pollution. Industry has had to clean up it's act over the years, do you think it would be tolerated if a factory was pumping out bad odour and noise? Why bother putting on a silencer on a lorry so.
If you think it's legal to have a nuisance noise or smell then you need to get some Education for yourself.

But what’s a nuisance?
A nuisance for one person may not be for another...

Crow banger - fair enough. But we don’t know what the farmer has tried... I still think the best course of action here is to talk to the farmer...

What about silage traffic on the road early in the morning or late at night?
What about a tractor working in a field in the early am or late pm?
What about a lad spreading slurry with a splash plate?
What about weaned calves in a shed bawling?

Farming has cleaned up its act a lot over the last while as well, it’s not just factories...
But, there are noisy and smelly aspects to farming.

GoneHome

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Thank you very much to the farmer who, this morning decided to start up a crow banger in the field next to us. 730am on Easter Sunday morning. Thats the height of absolute "I couldn't care less about anyone else". The cynical part of me says that it was done today because there is no-one to complain to.Hopefully it'll be gone in a few days but c'mon. Easter Sunday.

I'm with you on this, I'm from a rural area, grew up on a farm, living now in an extremely rural part of the country side but we had that same problem about two years ago, f$%k that, myself and the OH called to the landowner and told him in no uncertain terms to get rid of that banger or we'd be taking it further, which in fairness it did put a stop to it.

wrangler

Stihl waters wrote: »

How did it fall on you to give permission for the build

All the landowners on the private road have to give permission, people can't just build and break a gap on to a private road

GoneHome

wrangler wrote: »

All the landowners on the private road have to give permission, people can't just build and break a gap on to a private road

Huuh??? I never before heard that and I'm from a rural area where there has been a few new build houses built around here in the last twenty five years in our road but never once were we asked to give permission

J.O. Farmer

GoneHome wrote: »

Huuh??? I never before heard that and I'm from a rural area where there has been a few new build houses built around here in the last twenty five years in our road but never once were we asked to give permission

Like most planning in this country it probably depends on your county. It must've been a condition of planning for that house.

I doubt anyone would be asking permission of other landowners if they didn't have to.

wrangler

GoneHome wrote: »

Huuh??? I never before heard that and I'm from a rural area where there has been a few new build houses built around here in the last twenty five years in our road but never once were we asked to give permission

Is it a private road, do you maintain it yourselves, We have to contribute ouselves to pay for tarring it and apply to the council for a grant about every ten years.
It never cost anything to maintain until there was houses built apart from a bucket of gravel to fill holes every year.
My tenant has a 27 ft twin axle cattle trailer, he does some job on the tarmac turning out the gate also the twin axle 3000 gal slurry tank

K.G.

Just on the timing of it starting up.its likely that fueld could have been recently planted and if thats the case you dont want to let crows get a start on it.just out curiosity was it recently planted

AckwelFoley

Moves to the countryside.

Complains then theres a smell of ****e

Mad_maxx

I've a neighbour who puts a crow banger in the barley field every year for a few weeks, it's winter barley so I'm talking end of the year

He's very considerate so only leaves it on from 9 am to 5 pm and only goes off every ten minutes or so,it's about 300 metres from our house but you get used to it and it's only for a short period, beautiful to have a barley crop near by ,especially near harvest

Same guy used not to give a heads up when he was spraying but I asked him and I get a text every time since so we can make sure the kids are not outside

Sir Guy who smiles

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

It is I'm afraid. I've counted it. Every 30 seconds from 730am (when it first woke me up) until about 11am when it stopped. So its on a timer.


Its not the end of the world but 730am on Easter Sunday (with a sick parent in the house) is the height of dickishness. I wouldn't start a petrol chainsaw at 730am on Easter Sunday.

7.30 is not that early, first light is about 6am these days. Most non-farmers in rural areas have to get up before that time to make it to work.

It seems to be the day it occurred that's annoying you. Is your sick parent okay the rest of the week?

Sir Guy who smiles

SouthWesterly wrote: »

You don't want a crow banger to end like this.

Was an expensive lesson for both of them

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30876450.html%3ftype=amp

That manslaughter verdict was a travesty in my opinion. You lie in wait for someone-preplanning your attack-assault them multiple times, tearing their liver out of their chest, in my book that's murder.

I hate when people say " only in Ireland" but the defence that was used in that case is literally not on the statute books of most other counties.

Stihl waters

AckwelFoley wrote: »

Moves to the countryside.

Complains then theres a smell of ****e

That's not what the issue is at all, did you not read the op

Markcheese

GoneHome wrote: »

Huuh??? I never before heard that and I'm from a rural area where there has been a few new build houses built around here in the last twenty five years in our road but never once were we asked to give permission

Difference between a council owned boreen and a private road serving several houses ... Maybe ?

Bass Reeves

Sir Guy who smiles wrote: »

That manslaughter verdict was a travesty in my opinion. You lie in wait for someone-preplanning your attack-assault them multiple times, tearing their liver out of their chest, in my book that's murder.

I hate when people say " only in Ireland" but the defence that was used in that case is literally not on the statute books of most other counties.

It immaterial not condoning it but often you reap what you sow. A bit of consideration for other people can go a long way. Stupid sh!t happen's when you act the ballot. I am not condoning it but you have to realize that driving some one around the bend may actually drive them around the bend

Mad_maxx

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It immaterial not condoning it but often you reap what you sow. A bit of consideration for other people can go a long way. Stupid sh!t happen's when you act the ballot. I am not condoning it but you have to realize that driving some one around the bend may actually drive them around the bend

even though the man convicted of manslaughter committed a barbaric act , there were most definately mitigating circumstances involved

TooOldBoots

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

But what’s a nuisance?
A nuisance for one person may not be for another...

Crow banger - fair enough. But we don’t know what the farmer has tried... I still think the best course of action here is to talk to the farmer...

1. What about silage traffic on the road early in the morning or late at night?
2. What about a tractor working in a field in the early am or late pm?
3. What about a lad spreading slurry with a splash plate?
4. What about weaned calves in a shed bawling?

Farming has cleaned up its act a lot over the last while as well, it’s not just factories...
But, there are noisy and smelly aspects to farming.

Public roads, stupid question.

Depends on the activity I guess all within reason. A judge will often look at what is a reasonable man doing.

As long as the the slurry doesn't contaminate the neighbors property. But if it was to destroy clothes, curtains etc in a house then I'd say the farmer would be liable.

Depends on what was there first. You can't build a house beside a factory and then complain about it, at the same time the factory cannot engage in pollution be it water, sound, light etc Likewise a farmer can't build a new shed near to neighbors and expect them to live with it.


To say farming has cleaned up it's act is a bit rich. It is still the biggest polluter in Ireland. Emits the most greenhouse gases. Farmers make up less 3% if the population.
Costly to the taxpayer, yet only contributes less than 1% of GDP!!

I'm a farmer myself but can tell you first hand the non-farmers make more of a contribution to my local parish than the farmers/landowners. They always afe involved in the GAA, Schools, Church, organizing events etc. I have several farmer neighbors who never lift a hand or help out. Always too busy to contribute.

green daries

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Public roads, stupid question.

Depends on the activity I guess all within reason. A judge will often look at what is a reasonable man doing.

As long as the the slurry doesn't contaminate the neighbors property. But if it was to destroy clothes, curtains etc in a house then I'd say the farmer would be liable.

Depends on what was there first. You can't build a house beside a factory and then complain about it, at the same time the factory cannot engage in pollution be it water, sound, light etc Likewise a farmer can't build a new shed near to neighbors and expect them to live with it.


To say farming has cleaned up it's act is a bit rich. It is still the biggest polluter in Ireland. Emits the most greenhouse gases. Farmers make up less 3% if the population.
Costly to the taxpayer, yet only contributes less than 1% of GDP!!

I'm a farmer myself but can tell you first hand the non-farmers make more of a contribution to my local parish than the farmers/landowners. They always afe involved in the GAA, Schools, Church, organizing events etc. I have several farmer neighbors who never lift a hand or help out. Always too busy to contribute.

Sorry to see that an actual farmer has been taken in by the Lies of the groups who want us to believe agriculture is the biggest polluter in Ireland


It's lies its untrue and it should be removed as a post by the mods

Donald Trump

GoneHome wrote: »

I'm with you on this, I'm from a rural area, grew up on a farm, living now in an extremely rural part of the country side but we had that same problem about two years ago, f$%k that, myself and the OH called to the landowner and told him in no uncertain terms to get rid of that banger or we'd be taking it further, which in fairness it did put a stop to it.

Why did you take that approach? No wonder rows and bad blood start.


Hypothetical phone call scenario 1:

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GoneHome: "Hi Jimmy. I just wanted to say that that banger you have in the field beside us is very annoying. It's goign off every 2 minutes"
Farmer: "Oh is it. Feck. Sorry, I never realised. Well I only needed it there for a week or two. If I had realised, I'd have put it down the other end of the field, pointing away from you and where the trees would block the sound. Sorry about that. I didn't mean to have it banging so frequently. I must have set it incorrectly. Would it be ok if I try that and you can let me know if that works ok instead.
GoneHome: "Ok, sure try it and see"
Farmer: "Grand. Thanks, sorry about that. If it is still causing an issue I'll remove it"

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Hypothetical scenario 2:

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GoneHome: "Oi, Jimmy you fucking cunt. You better stop that noise immediately or I'll break both your fucking legs and shove them up your arse (hangs up. phone line dead)
Farmer: "Huh. What the hell was that about"

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TooOldBoots

green daries wrote: »

Sorry to see that an actual farmer has been taken in by the Lies of the groups who want us to believe agriculture is the biggest polluter in Ireland

It's lies its untrue and it should be removed as a post by the mods

Lies !! really
The groups I have been listening to include the EPA, Teagasc, the Dept of Agriculture. Ask them I'm sure they inform you about ground and surface water pollution from artificial fertilizer, slurry, fym and Commercial Forestry.
Co2 emissions from agriculture in Ireland have gotten worse not better. The endangered species list has grown.

Donald Trump

TooOldBoots wrote: »

The endangered species list has grown.

Probably partly due to my own penchant for shooting the white rhinos running around place. If they stayed out of the bottom fields it wouldn't be as bad, but sure those fields get wet and they make awful muck.




We should stop farming in the country, and use that 1% of GDP to do the environmentally friendly thing and get the Brazilians to "make" some more useful land out of the environmentally worthless forests and transport their produce the few thousand miles to here

Genghis Cant

Mod Note.
We've a ranting and raving forum somewhere on here if lads feel the need to exercise themselves. This one has gone so far off topic it's making me dizzy.
We have reached our final destination. Thanks. GC