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Anyone ordered a prebuilt with RTX3080 from PCSpecialist.ie?
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29-03-2021 10:20am#1
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Are you crazy? There's so much gouging on that price I would flat refuse to pay it.
Thats why I used the words 'Ass raping'.
Similar build on overclockers is GBP£3924 inc 20% UK VAT.
£3282 ex VAT = €3855 x 23% Irish VAT (lets forget about customs Duty as I don't know if there is any on PC's or how much it is) = €3855+€886 VAT = €4741
I can't deny it stings but I had decided at 3000 series launch that for once I was going to get the Titan class card and not gt caught up in the, "Will I get an xx80 or wait or an **80TI....". I said feck it, just buy the Titan Class card once at launch and not worry that any card will be more powerful for that generation. The doubling of price for 10-15% performance gave me pause for thought for a few weeks....and then it dawned on us it was a paper launch and then the prices went even more bonkers.
Given its still looking like another year before things go back to any level of sanity, I decided to go insane myself and pay a €700 premium for a 3090 from a System Integrator to get one sooner and not pay the €1500 premium to scalpers...and likely get and enjoy the PC a year earlier than otherwise would be the case.
I haven't been able to spend my money on anything for a year and cleared several loans and my VISA .
The insane new GPU market is mirrored by the S/H market where I'll get about €1100 for a GTX1080 and RTX2060 and already just got €180 for a GTX970. A few other bits and pieces and I'll generate about €1500 for spare parts that up till recently I thought were fit for nowhere but the WEEE bin.
€1500 definitely takes the Sting out of the €4200 cost of this build however overpriced compared to normal times it might be. Point is, in normal times that PC should go for no more than €3000....but remember in normal times I wouldn't be able to generate anywhere close to €1500 from my spare parts, so really its swings and roundabouts!!:D 0 -
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Homelander wrote: »€4,200 for that. Jesus christ.
As the Overclockers quote, a similar €4800 quote from Caseking.de (Overclockers sister Co.) and even higher from Alienware show, thats the going rate for that kind of specced build. The PCS price of €4200 is actually very good for that spec at current insane markups. At least its Consumer parts and not the crappy OEM parts in the likes of the Alienware.
Like I said, if I wasn't in the unusual position of having €1500 worth of spare parts and GPU’s that in normal times would be worth almost nothing, to offset that insane price, well I too would be saying, “F that for a game of soldiers!! I’ll wait another 12 months + to do a new build”.
Were I to wait a year or more till the market goes back to normal, the S/H market would also be back to normal, so the now €3000 PC of that spec would only be offset by €400-€500 in spare part sales, so whether I get this PC now or in 12+ months, its going to cost me about €2500 Net.
(This is of course putting aside the perfectly valid argument about whether anyone should ever pay the ‘normal’ €1500 price for an RTX3090 even in normal times ):D 0 -
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At these prices, even with the GPU scarcity how are folks not just using Dell/Alienware?
An Aurora i7/11700, 32gb ram and 10gb Nvidia 3080 is 2749.
I'm sure some of the other big players have similar pricing and that Dell offer an Ryzen/Nvidia build too aswell as AMD gfx if preferred.
That's where the best value lies, I posted a €2999.00 Alienware / Dell build with a 5900X and a RTX3080 in the StockX thread.
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That's where the best value lies, I posted a €2999.00 Alienware / Dell build with a 5900X and a RTX3080 in the StockX thread.
Are there any pre-builts with 5800X/3080 for similarly decent prices that aren't in a case that makes my 2000 Euro PC look like it was pulled ass backwards through an ugly factory?0 -
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4200...that old saying that fools and their money are easily parted comes to mind
Did you read the rest of the thread or just see the Big Red numbers?
Huge markups on the parts is offset by the huge appreciation in value of S/H parts that I'll be selling....and the PC will look incredible and I'll get to enjoy it for a year before new and S/H prices return to some degree of sanity. It won't be a Fugly Oven with cheap Green PCB OEM Parts all crammed inside the R11 case of an Alienware cooking each other.
Who's the fool? The guy who waits more than a year to build the same PC for €3000 at more normal pricing but only gets €500 for his spare parts as the S/H market has returned to normal too meaning a Net cost of €2,500 for the PC....or....the guy who gets to have the PC within the next month or so for €4,200 but gets about €1,500 for his spare parts at current insane S/H prices meaning a net cost of.....about €2,500.
The question about whether its insane or I'm a fool to buy a Strix 3090 is another question entirely though my defence (not that I need to defend anything) is that A. Current demand and supply means a 3090 isn't double the price of a 3080 anymore (ie. hugely in demand 3080 prices have increased more than 3090 prices) so the value proposition and price performance ratio has changed between the two cards in these unusual times. B. I'll get it a lot quicker. C. OC'ing it widens the performance gap with the 3080 another few percentage points....and finally D. My gaming use-cases are one of the few areas where the 3090 will show a more worthwhile improvement relative to the 3080. ie. VR Simming and 4K60 Steam Pancake Game In-Home Streaming.
Can't wait for my €2,500 NET PC to arrive in a few weeks!!
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Yep, sure I pay ~15c/KWH after VAT. I run the card at 230W power limit for about 90MH/s mining rate, PC is on overnight anyway if I was mining or not. So an additional ~90c per day elec. It's just under €8 net at current prices, but was higher earlier in the month.
edit: price jumped back up, profit is close to €8.50/24hr
Jaysus €8.50 Net per day is about €260 a month or €3100 in a year (I know it can fluctuate wildly)!!
Are you mining Bitcoin or Ethereum?
Knowing my luck I get the PC at the end of the month or first week of May just after a crash or that change in 'Difficulty' thing I heard something about.
If the card ended up paying for itself in under a Year, I'd be laughing!!......and the lads here calling me crazy or a 'fool and their money'......wouldn't.
(Its adding €2300 (for Strix 3090. Zotac 3090 on PCS is €2100) to the build cost so at current Mining Net profit it would pay for itself in just about 9 months)
Given my plans to make the PC a Wireless VR game streaming and Steam Remote Play game streaming server for myself and my brother in his Flat next door, 24/7 accessible with WOL, well I don't mind it Mining in all the non gaming hours of the day. Wouldn't have to worry about setting up WOL for a year anyway
I presume the Mining software can automatically shut down/restart when you use/or stop using the PC for more conventional uses?
I'd have to spend some time setting up some fan profiles to keep the thing as cool but also as quiet as possible as the PC would be in my bedroom.
So Yeah! I might PM you in a month or so when I get the PC If you don't mind, to get a more detailed low-down/how-to or at least point me in the right direction to get that info. Feel free to ignore that PM though if you are too busy/couldn't be arsed. I won't be offended. 0 -
Jaysus €8.50 Net per day is about €260 a month or €3100 in a year (I know it can fluctuate wildly)!!
Are you mining Bitcoin or Ethereum?
Knowing my luck I get the PC at the end of the month or first week of May just after a crash or that change in 'Difficulty' thing I heard something about.
If the card ended up paying for itself in under a Year, I'd be laughing!!......and the lads here calling me crazy or a 'fool and their money'......wouldn't.
(Its adding €2300 (for Strix 3090. Zotac 3090 on PCS is €2100) to the build cost so at current Mining Net profit it would pay for itself in just about 9 months)
Given my plans to make the PC a Wireless VR game streaming and Steam Remote Play game streaming server for myself and my brother in our Flat next door, 24/7 accessible with WOL, well I don't mind it Mining in all the non gaming hours of the day. Wouldn't have to worry about setting up WOL for a year anyway
I presume the Mining software can automatically shut down/restart when you use/or stop using the PC for more conventional uses?
I'd have to spend some time setting up some fan profiles to keep the thing as cool but also as quiet as possible as the PC would be in my bedroom.
So Yeah! I might PM you in a month or so when I get the PC If you don't mind, to get a more detailed low-down/how-to or at least point me in the right direction to get that info. Feel free to ignore that PM though if you are too busy/couldn't be arsed. I won't be offended.
Mining Ethereum using NiceHash (which might be controversial but has tonnes of options). It pays out in bitcoin. You can tune your GFX card however you want it, and it's easy to pause, even has GAME MODE, and you can manage the rig through their app or website (change the fans, monitor the temps, underclock). I use MSI Afterburner but it's there as an option.
The trick is to ensure you restrict power and manage temps, it's less stressful than playing Cyberpunk.
You cannot mine Bitcoin on a GFX card anymore, still rueing the .5 BTC I mined back in the day on a 750TI but gambled away on SatoshiDice...0 -
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Looked it up and the individuals €1270 CGT exemption applies before the 33% CGT on profits kicks in. In other words I could mine for 5 months at current daily net profit rates before crossing that threshold. Thats half the card paid for, and the crazy S/H prices for my GTX1080 & RTX2060 paying for the other half. Free RTX3090.
Depending on net profit levels at the 5 month mark or the taxation/paperwork hassles once the CGT threshold was crossed would determine whether I continued to mine with the card. I think the whole CGT issue is not really relevant to the likes of me mining on one GPU to help pay it off and more relevant to more serious miners with actual multi GPU Mining setups looking to earn serious monthly income from Mining.0 -
Looked it up and the individuals €1270 CGT exemption applies before the 33% CGT on profits kicks in. In other words I could mine for 5 months at current daily net profit rates before crossing that threshold. Thats half the card paid for, and the crazy S/H prices for my GTX1080 & RTX2060 paying for the other half. Free RTX3090.
Depending on net profit levels at the 5 month mark or the taxation/paperwork hassles once the CGT threshold was crossed would determine whether I continued to mine with the card. I think the whole CGT issue is not really relevant to the likes of me mining on one GPU to help pay it off and more relevant to more serious miners with actual multi GPU Mining setups looking to earn serious monthly income from Mining.
Your mining income from NiceHash is not capital gains, it's just plain income.0 -
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