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Anyone ordered a prebuilt with RTX3080 from PCSpecialist.ie?

Calibos

Seems like I’ll have to go down the prebuilt route to have any chance of getting an RTX3080 within €200 of MSRP and within the next year. Had a look at Dell G5’s and Alienware who are probably higher up the pecking order when it comes to access to new silicon but theres even a 30 day lead time with them. However, it seems one is still subject to Dell OEM versions of parts missing ports, custom wiring looms and blue mobo pcb, green GPU PCB with no backplate monstrosities etc. ie. not ideal candidates for parts harvesting.

Came across PCSpecialist.ie (Irish Domain but UK based but at least no double V.A.T.ing or Brexit shenannigans). Parts and Price wise I was happy enough but the site has ‘pre-order’ beside the RTX3080 and no indication of the brand/model of card. Ideally it’d be a Founders edition or popular AIB card to leave open the possibility of getting a waterblock for it in future if I decided to WC it.

Has anyone here ordered from PCSpecialist recently? Did it say ‘pre-order’ for the GPU when you ordered? How long did you have to wait before it arrived? Founders Edition or which AIB card did they supply you with?

TIA

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Inquitus

Calibos wrote: »

Seems like I’ll have to go down the prebuilt route to have any chance of getting an RTX3080 within €200 of MSRP and within the next year. Had a look at Dell G5’s and Alienware who are probably higher up the pecking order when it comes to access to new silicon but theres even a 30 day lead time with them. However, it seems one is still subject to Dell OEM versions of parts missing ports, custom wiring looms and blue mobo pcb, green GPU PCB with no backplate monstrosities etc. ie. not ideal candidates for parts harvesting.

Came across PCSpecialist.ie (Irish Domain but UK based but at least no double V.A.T.ing or Brexit shenannigans). Parts and Price wise I was happy enough but the site has ‘pre-order’ beside the RTX3080 and no indication of the brand/model of card. Ideally it’d be a Founders edition or popular AIB card to leave open the possibility of getting a waterblock for it in future if I decided to WC it.

Has anyone here ordered from PCSpecialist recently? Did it say ‘pre-order’ for the GPU when you ordered? How long did you have to wait before it arrived? Founders Edition or which AIB card did they supply you with?

TIA

Afair this crowd have a pretty poor record among boardsies, not sure I would get involved with them based off what I have read,

whampiri

I used caseking.de to grab a 3060ti. It's on back order at the moment so I'll be waiting a while but a friend ordered through PC specialist and is due to get his machine today. Now he went for a different gpu(can't remember which) that they had in stock, but the pc, if delivered today will only have taken 6 days to deliver.

Calibos

Ended up ordering the following from PCSpecialist:

Case
PCS P209 ARGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
24GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3090 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]

rob808

How much did this cost any ETA when you might get it. I was thinking of getting a pc with a RTX 3080 off them.

Calibos

rob808 wrote: »

How much did this cost any ETA when you might get it. I was thinking of getting a pc with a RTX 3080 off them.

With the latest amendments I'm not exactly sure...hold on.....sweet mother of divine jaysus!!

€4206!!!

:eek::eek:

The site says 16 working days but thats totally unreliable apparently. I could be waiting a month or two or it could go to picking, building and shipping early next week for all anyone knows. If they have a few 5800x's in stock and get even a small delivery of Strix 3090's, I might get it sooner rather than later. Its why I decided to pay the Strix Tax as well as the regular 3090 ass raping tax, because apparently the queue for the Strix 3090 is a lot smaller than the regular generic (Zotac/MSI) 3090 queue.....which is dwarfed by the 3080 queue. ie. I read theres 1700 in the 3080 queue, 160 in the generic 3090 queue and less than that in the Strix 3090 queue.

Inquitus

Calibos wrote: »

With the latest amendments I'm not exactly sure...hold on.....sweet mother of divine jaysus!!

€4206!!!

:eek::eek:

The site says 16 working days but thats totally unreliable apparently. I could be waiting a month or two or it could go to picking, building and shipping early next week for all anyone knows. If they have a few 5800x's in stock and get even a small delivery of Strix 3090's, I might get it sooner rather than later. Its why I decided to pay the Strix Tax as well as the regular 3090 ass raping tax, because apparently the queue for the Strix 3090 is a lot smaller than the regular generic (Zotac/MSI) 3090 queue.....which is dwarfed by the 3080 queue. ie. I read theres 1700 in the 3080 queue, 160 in the generic 3090 queue and less than that in the Strix 3090 queue.

Are you crazy? There's so much gouging on that price I would flat refuse to pay it.

Blazer

I refuse to pay it.
l ended up getting one without a video card as I’m getting one off a mate and will slum it at 1080p for a while. Actually came in cheaper than ordering the parts off Amazon.
Also use TRMZ for €37 off..they sponsor RunningManZ who streams dayz

Calibos

Inquitus wrote: »

Are you crazy? There's so much gouging on that price I would flat refuse to pay it.

Thats why I used the words 'Ass raping'.

Similar build on overclockers is GBP£3924 inc 20% UK VAT.

£3282 ex VAT = €3855 x 23% Irish VAT (lets forget about customs Duty as I don't know if there is any on PC's or how much it is) = €3855+€886 VAT = €4741

I can't deny it stings but I had decided at 3000 series launch that for once I was going to get the Titan class card and not gt caught up in the, "Will I get an xx80 or wait or an **80TI....". I said feck it, just buy the Titan Class card once at launch and not worry that any card will be more powerful for that generation. The doubling of price for 10-15% performance gave me pause for thought for a few weeks....and then it dawned on us it was a paper launch and then the prices went even more bonkers.

Given its still looking like another year before things go back to any level of sanity, I decided to go insane myself and pay a €700 premium for a 3090 from a System Integrator to get one sooner and not pay the €1500 premium to scalpers...and likely get and enjoy the PC a year earlier than otherwise would be the case.

I haven't been able to spend my money on anything for a year and cleared several loans and my VISA .

The insane new GPU market is mirrored by the S/H market where I'll get about €1100 for a GTX1080 and RTX2060 and already just got €180 for a GTX970. A few other bits and pieces and I'll generate about €1500 for spare parts that up till recently I thought were fit for nowhere but the WEEE bin.

€1500 definitely takes the Sting out of the €4200 cost of this build however overpriced compared to normal times it might be. Point is, in normal times that PC should go for no more than €3000....but remember in normal times I wouldn't be able to generate anywhere close to €1500 from my spare parts, so really its swings and roundabouts!!

Homelander

€4,200 for that. Jesus christ.

Calibos

Homelander wrote: »

€4,200 for that. Jesus christ.

As the Overclockers quote, a similar €4800 quote from Caseking.de (Overclockers sister Co.) and even higher from Alienware show, thats the going rate for that kind of specced build. The PCS price of €4200 is actually very good for that spec at current insane markups. At least its Consumer parts and not the crappy OEM parts in the likes of the Alienware.

Like I said, if I wasn't in the unusual position of having €1500 worth of spare parts and GPU’s that in normal times would be worth almost nothing, to offset that insane price, well I too would be saying, “F that for a game of soldiers!! I’ll wait another 12 months + to do a new build”.

Were I to wait a year or more till the market goes back to normal, the S/H market would also be back to normal, so the now €3000 PC of that spec would only be offset by €400-€500 in spare part sales, so whether I get this PC now or in 12+ months, its going to cost me about €2500 Net.

(This is of course putting aside the perfectly valid argument about whether anyone should ever pay the ‘normal’ €1500 price for an RTX3090 even in normal times

)

Nonoperational

Bought an in stock 5800x 3070 from them. Had it in 3 days. Great machine. The wait for their 3080s going on the forum is around 3 months or so.

TheValeyard

These guys are charging over 1500 for a Ryzen 9 5950X by itself.

That. Is. Shocking.

banie01

At these prices, even with the GPU scarcity how are folks not just using Dell/Alienware?

An Aurora i7/11700, 32gb ram and 10gb Nvidia 3080 is 2749.
I'm sure some of the other big players have similar pricing and that Dell offer an Ryzen/Nvidia build too aswell as AMD gfx if preferred.

Inquitus

banie01 wrote: »

At these prices, even with the GPU scarcity how are folks not just using Dell/Alienware?

An Aurora i7/11700, 32gb ram and 10gb Nvidia 3080 is 2749.
I'm sure some of the other big players have similar pricing and that Dell offer an Ryzen/Nvidia build too aswell as AMD gfx if preferred.

That's where the best value lies, I posted a €2999.00 Alienware / Dell build with a 5900X and a RTX3080 in the StockX thread.

Syferus

Inquitus wrote: »

That's where the best value lies, I posted a €2999.00 Alienware / Dell build with a 5900X and a RTX3080 in the StockX thread.

Are there any pre-builts with 5800X/3080 for similarly decent prices that aren't in a case that makes my 2000 Euro PC look like it was pulled ass backwards through an ugly factory?

Keyzer

Jesus h, €4,200 - that's bananas money...

GHOST MGG

4200...that old saying that fools and their money are easily parted comes to mind

Calibos

GHOST MGG wrote: »

4200...that old saying that fools and their money are easily parted comes to mind

Did you read the rest of the thread or just see the Big Red numbers?

Huge markups on the parts is offset by the huge appreciation in value of S/H parts that I'll be selling....and the PC will look incredible and I'll get to enjoy it for a year before new and S/H prices return to some degree of sanity. It won't be a Fugly Oven with cheap Green PCB OEM Parts all crammed inside the R11 case of an Alienware cooking each other.

Who's the fool? The guy who waits more than a year to build the same PC for €3000 at more normal pricing but only gets €500 for his spare parts as the S/H market has returned to normal too meaning a Net cost of €2,500 for the PC....or....the guy who gets to have the PC within the next month or so for €4,200 but gets about €1,500 for his spare parts at current insane S/H prices meaning a net cost of.....about €2,500.

The question about whether its insane or I'm a fool to buy a Strix 3090 is another question entirely though my defence (not that I need to defend anything) is that A. Current demand and supply means a 3090 isn't double the price of a 3080 anymore (ie. hugely in demand 3080 prices have increased more than 3090 prices) so the value proposition and price performance ratio has changed between the two cards in these unusual times. B. I'll get it a lot quicker. C. OC'ing it widens the performance gap with the 3080 another few percentage points....and finally D. My gaming use-cases are one of the few areas where the 3090 will show a more worthwhile improvement relative to the 3080. ie. VR Simming and 4K60 Steam Pancake Game In-Home Streaming.

Can't wait for my €2,500 NET PC to arrive in a few weeks!!

;)

rob808

Yea alienware pc are ugly you did pretty well. Im gona wait till next year probably mid 2022 probably gona be late 2022 and see if the Rtx 4080 come out hopefully the madness has ended and can get high end pc for €2500

Calibos

rob808 wrote: »

Yea alienware pc are ugly you did pretty well. Im gona wait till next year probably mid 2022 probably gona be late 2022 and see if the Rtx 4080 come out hopefully the madness has ended and can get high end pc for €2500

I'd normally be exactly the same as yourself and most others and would wait till mid 2022 at the earliest. It is indeed a terrible time to buy a new PC if you don't have an older PC or spare parts to sell. The point some people still seem to be missing is that I am in the slightly unusual position of having several spare GPU's to sell and a few other PC bits and pieces and that as a result the value/cost equation is different for me atm.

rob808

There also crypto mining make some money with your RTX 3090 and the pc pay for itself.

Thargor

rob808 wrote: »

There also crypto mining make some money with your RTX 3090 and the pc pay for itself.

Not in this country you wont, unless he has free electricity somehow.

rob808

Thargor wrote: »

Not in this country you wont, unless he has free electricity somehow.

well that true it mainly china were crypto mining is because of cheap electricity.

Giblet

rob808 wrote: »

well that true it mainly china were crypto mining is because of cheap electricity.

You can make about 8 euro a day with a 3090 mining ETH.

Syferus

Thargor wrote: »

Not in this country you wont, unless he has free electricity somehow.

Crypto is quite profitable including electricity costs on the 3080/90.

The One Doctor

Interesting stuff, thanks guys, might sell my RTX 2070 Super.

TheValeyard

The One Doctor wrote: »

Interesting stuff, thanks guys, might sell my RTX 2020 Super.

Do. Not. Sell.

GPU market is incredibly overpriced at the moment.
Unless you score a decent card with a low premium, might be best to hold off.

Calibos

Giblet wrote: »

You can make about 8 euro a day with a 3090 mining ETH.

Syferus wrote: »

Crypto is quite profitable including electricity costs on the 3080/90.

€8 a day Net in Ireland?? Is that mining 24/7 on it?

€240 a month??

I never investigated it because I just assumed with Irish lecky prices it’d be break-even or small profit and not worth the hassle.

Jaysus if that €8 a day is Net, it’d be worth doing 12/7 even.

The One Doctor

TheValeyard wrote: »

Do. Not. Sell.

GPU market is incredibly overpriced at the moment.
Unless you score a decent card with a low premium, might be best to hold off.

Nah I was just speculating. I'd only make a €200 profit anyway.

Giblet

Calibos wrote: »

€8 a day Net in Ireland?? Is that mining 24/7 on it?

€240 a month??

I never investigated it because I just assumed with Irish lecky prices it’d be break-even or small profit and not worth the hassle.

Jaysus if that €8 a day is Net, it’d be worth doing 12/7 even.

Yep, sure I pay ~15c/KWH after VAT. I run the card at 230W power limit for about 90MH/s mining rate, PC is on overnight anyway if I was mining or not. So an additional ~90c per day elec. It's just under €8 net at current prices, but was higher earlier in the month.

edit: price jumped back up, profit is close to €8.50/24hr