Would an EV work for me?

fits

fits wrote: »

Not really because I absolutely won’t spend 37 k on a diesel so am comparing cost to us. Why do you think I’d need to use public chargers? 260 km is well within range of e-Niro or soul.


I can take our other car if needed on cold days ( has AWD too).

I know the 64 Kwh E-Soul and E-Niro is well within range, what I was getting at is that you'd have all the range you want in a diesel and then some for pretty much any money and at 15 K it won't depreciate like a 37K EV even considering the fuel costs that will take a long time to pay back and a 15 K EV doesn't exist yet to cover that distance.

fits

OH took both Kia cars for a drive this morning. He likes both but maybe marginal preference for Niro whereas I’d go for the soul I think. We are going to look at ID 3 tour as well but I think it’s too expensive for us

Anyway it looks like we will go for one of the Kia cars. No rush on it really. I don’t think they take long to come once ordered?

Lantus

For style the soul, for space and practicality with the kids the niro is where I would drift.

fits

Lantus wrote: »

For style the soul, for space and practicality with the kids the niro is where I would drift.

Yeah if the Niro had same spec as soul it would be no contest.

fits

fits wrote: »

OH took both Kia cars for a drive this morning. He likes both but maybe marginal preference for Niro whereas I’d go for the soul I think. We are going to look at ID 3 tour as well but I think it’s too expensive for us

Anyway it looks like we will go for one of the Kia cars. No rush on it really. I don’t think they take long to come once ordered?

I haven't got a drive in the E-Niro yet, the local Kia salesman didn't email me back but it does look to have the better interior to the id.3. I took the id.3 for a spin yesterday evening and it's a decent drive but a bit gammy inside in Life trim.

The E-Niro is front wheel drive which will have a lot more wheel spin than the id.3 which can be a real pain when pulling hard out of junctions on to main roads or out of roundabouts.

The id.3 Tour with 77 Kwh battery will charge a lot faster than the E_Niro. That's something to take into account if you ever need to fast charge and can find a 150 Kw charger.

Also remember the id.3 tour is currently 4 seater only, the dealer told me today they don't expect to see this until very late 2021 or early 2022 but it's anyone's guess.

fits

Yeah we discussed the four seats. It probably wouldn’t be an issue as we run another car. But probably moot anyway as overall price is high. Anyway we will have a look at the VW. The faster charging is a bonus but I’d say we will be doing almost all charging at home.

Looking into solar panels now as well so going down a bit of a rabbit hole.

fits

fits wrote: »

Yeah we discussed the four seats. It probably wouldn’t be an issue as we run another car. But probably moot anyway as overall price is high. Anyway we will have a look at the VW. The faster charging is a bonus but I’d say we will be doing almost all charging at home.

Looking into solar panels now as well so going down a bit of a rabbit hole.

I just checked the VW site and the tour 5 seater is showing up but it's not in the price list pdf yet so I won't be ordering a 4 seater, I might miss out on some equipment but it will have all I really need/want.

I don't think the tour will be much more expensive than the E-Niro ?

I'll be going on PCP again, roughly around 550 PM that was for the 4 seater 77 Kwh. 5 K deposit.

fits

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I just checked the VW site and the tour 5 seater is showing up but it's not in the price list pdf yet so I won't be ordering a 4 seater, I might miss out on some equipment but it will have all I really need/want.

I don't think the tour will be much more expensive than the E-Niro ?

I'll be going on PCP again, roughly around 550 PM that was for the 4 seater 77 Kwh. 5 K deposit.

Plus your trade in? Or are you selling separately?

Lantus

fits wrote: »

Yeah we discussed the four seats. It probably wouldn’t be an issue as we run another car. But probably moot anyway as overall price is high. Anyway we will have a look at the VW. The faster charging is a bonus but I’d say we will be doing almost all charging at home.

Looking into solar panels now as well so going down a bit of a rabbit hole.

If you can afford solar panels you can afford an e tron!! Don't go near rabbit holes. Elec is cheap and good sized solar is for people passionate about renewables who don't care it will cost more than they will ever save.

fits

fits wrote: »

Plus your trade in? Or are you selling separately?

+ about 2 k for the i3.

fits

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+ about 2 k for the i3.

Cripes!

Lantus

Lantus wrote: »

If you can afford solar panels you can afford an e tron!! Don't go near rabbit holes. Elec is cheap and good sized solar is for people passionate about renewables who don't care it will cost more than they will ever save.

Yes I agree, at the current cost of electricity and no feed in tariff it's not worth it but if they do offer a decent fit then it's a lot more viable but there needs to be guarantees of receiving this fit for several years.

+ they also need to lift the 5 Kw limit on single phase, it's just too low for anyone who wants to invest in more solar pv so they can export a lot more energy to the grid in the brighter months to import it for use in the darker months.

fits

Lantus wrote: »

If you can afford solar panels you can afford an e tron!! Don't go near rabbit holes. Elec is cheap and good sized solar is for people passionate about renewables who don't care it will cost more than they will ever save.

Was always the plan to install solar here at some stage. Other priorities before then but want to figure out what’s needed install wise and how it would work here etc.

Black_Knight

Lantus wrote: »

If you can afford solar panels you can afford an e tron!! Don't go near rabbit holes. Elec is cheap and good sized solar is for people passionate about renewables who don't care it will cost more than they will ever save.

Not a fan of maths are you? Solar does pay for itself, but it's a return over a long period time. I'd like to get solar at our house, but 1. No tank so can't heat the tank with excess power, 2. Poor roof orientation and size, 3. If it could pay for itself in 10 years we might not be in this house in 10 years, thus not paying for itself (might be worth something for resale though), 4 we're low energy users already, thus the ROI is longer.

Those who go EV tend to think solar because like with buying an EV, they do the math and it makes sense, and an EV ads significantly to your energy consumption.

fits

fits wrote: »

Cripes!

I have around 14 K left on the i3, the garage will offer me 14K and by the time July comes around I will have around 12 K left on the lone, this is where the 2 K comes from.

PCP will be over 20 Kms a year because the sales man said that they're not really bothered about having 100k Kms vs 60k Kms because they'll have got their money for the car so they will make more money selling it 2nd hand anyway so where it will effect me more is value at the end which will eat a little into any deposit I may have going forward.

Black_Knight

Black_Knight wrote: »

Not a fan of maths are you? Solar does pay for itself, but it's a return over a long period time. I'd like to get solar at our house, but 1. No tank so can't heat the tank with excess power, 2. Poor roof orientation and size, 3. If it could pay for itself in 10 years we might not be in this house in 10 years, thus not paying for itself (might be worth something for resale though), 4 we're low energy users already, thus the ROI is longer.

Those who go EV tend to think solar because like with buying an EV, they do the math and it makes sense, and an EV ads significantly to your energy consumption.

It only makes sense if the car can be home during the day which is useless if someone has to drive for work and if only doing very small mileage anyway then you might not have to charge for a couple of days or once a week.

FIT is essential in my opinion, having to dump electricity or use excess electricity is not good if you wouldn't have used it without solar pv.

Each has their own idea and for me it's not viable without a FIT because I am not interested in turning things on when the sun shines just to use the energy that the esb would be getting for free.

And for me one major issue is Radio Frequency interference, being a licensed Amateur radio operator means I can't have solar PV inverters sending major RFI down the line. This is a breech of international regulations in the first place as the radio spectrum is protected by international law But a lot of these inverters are cheap made in China Crap.

fafy

Has anyone availed of the home charger included with the E Niro, scant information available, looks like it might be a Wall Box, but has one the option, to upgrade to another charger from Easgo?

fits

fafy wrote: »

Has anyone availed of the home charger included with the E Niro, scant information available, looks like it might be a Wall Box, but has one the option, to upgrade to another charger from Easgo?

It is a wallbox and I dont believe there is an option to pick another charger. Interested in more information on this too.

fafy

fits wrote: »

It is a wallbox and I dont believe there is an option to pick another charger. Interested in more information on this too.

Called them today - Easy Go, who handle the installs of the Kia E Niro free chargers, they said to upgrade to Pulsar Plus, is €195, which isn’t bad.

The install is €600 (for basic Pulsar)which of course can be claimed from SEAI.

Some blurb on it at the bottom of this page:

https://www.mce.ie/offers/exlusive-mcelligots-offers/kia-free-home-charger/