Concrete Slab Costs 2021

daesal

Hello
I going to put in a concrete slab 14m x 14m x 152mm (6")
Im finding it hard to get rough priceing on this.
What would be the cost to have this laid?

Thanks

Dunedin

daesal wrote: »

Hello
I going to put in a concrete slab 14m x 14m x 152mm (6")
Im finding it hard to get rough priceing on this.
What would be the cost to have this laid?

Thanks

It’ll take 30 cubic meters of concrete. Not sure of what concrete is at the minute as last summer since I last priced it but gonna guess it’ll be close enough to €100 a metre incl vat so €3k for concrete. Then it depends on what work you have to do beforehand but as a total stab in the dark a €1000 including gravel, machinery, hire of whacker, labour. Labour on the pour of the slab assuming you would be getting 2 fellas. A slab is normally a straight forward pour so 4 hours so €200 for the two boys.

Not including you might have to buy timber to form it up, are you putting in expansion joints or cutting it afterwards???

Hope that helps.

daesal

Thats a great help thanks.
I will need timber to form. Will price that up tomorrow. I'm sorry to ask but what is the expansion joint vs cutting? I'm not that up on concrete pour. The only thing I've done before is a base for a tool shed years ago 3m x 10m and I was only a small labourer for that job.

Dunedin

Concrete expands and contracts depending on temperature and Expansion joints are essentially a cut in the concrete that allow for this and it stops concrete cracking afterwards.

A cut would be done with a consaw once concrete is set and is simply cutting a line about 2 inches deep across the width of the slab. Alternatively you buy plastic diamond shaped lenghts that you’d set in the concrete which you’d screed to the top of them and they allow for the contract/expanding - you’d get them in any hardware.

Just google this and you’ll get all you need.

cute geoge

Dunedin wrote: »

It’ll take 30 cubic meters of concrete. Not sure of what concrete is at the minute as last summer since I last priced it but gonna guess it’ll be close enough to €100 a metre incl vat so €3k for concrete. Then it depends on what work you have to do beforehand but as a total stab in the dark a €1000 including gravel, machinery, hire of whacker, labour. Labour on the pour of the slab assuming you would be getting 2 fellas. A slab is normally a straight forward pour so 4 hours so €200 for the two boys.

Not including you might have to buy timber to form it up, are you putting in expansion joints or cutting it afterwards???

Hope that helps.

4 loads of conco and you expect 2 lads to screed it for E200 in 4 hours come on be a bit more realistic to a lad pouring his 1st load of readymix .my advice have your ground ready and forms up order 1st load for 9 am and 2 nd load for 12 am and repeat the 2nd day no pressure

Grueller

cute geoge wrote: »

4 loads of conco and you expect 2 lads to screed it for E200 in 4 hours come on be a bit more realistic to a lad pouring his 1st load of readymix .my advice have your ground ready and forms up order 1st load for 9 am and 2 nd load for 12 am and repeat the 2nd day no pressure

2 savage concrete workers here do jobs like that of a Saturday. They would pour that in the one day and charge €150 per man. They work for a local concrete firm in Dublin all week so Saturday is their day to get a few euros to go down deep in the pocket for just them.

Dunedin

cute geoge wrote: »

4 loads of conco and you expect 2 lads to screed it for E200 in 4 hours come on be a bit more realistic to a lad pouring his 1st load of readymix .my advice have your ground ready and forms up order 1st load for 9 am and 2 nd load for 12 am and repeat the 2nd day no pressure

Forming up and preparing was included in the €1000 in costs beforehand (albeit a total stab in the dark). €200 each I meant and it’s a good days wages. I poured 3 loads in a very awkward yard in 6 hours last summer with a young lad with me - if 2 lads with a bit of help from the OP, couldn’t do 4 load in a day on a square slab then it’s time to go back on the pup payment

Dunedin

Grueller wrote: »

2 savage concrete workers here do jobs like that of a Saturday. They would pour that in the one day and charge €150 per man. They work for a local concrete firm in Dublin all week so Saturday is their day to get a few euros to go down deep in the pocket for just them.

That’d be my thinking too.

GrasstoMilk

Quoted 8k for 50x 80 slab today
Going down over existing slab
It is 100x 50 but there's 20 ft of silage left that won't be used this year, we'll just concrete up to it

Dunedin

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Quoted 8k for 50x 80 slab today
Going down over existing slab
It is 100x 50 but there's 20 ft of silage left that won't be used this year, we'll just concrete up to it

There’s about 56 metres of concrete (at 6” depth) so that’s going to be circa €6k before you start. Is the price of timber to form it included in that price. If it is an all-in price, it mightn’t be too far off.

There’s another thread on here about rising costs.

GrasstoMilk

Dunedin wrote: »

There’s about 56 metres of concrete (at 6” depth) so that’s going to be circa €6k before you start. Is the price of timber to form it included in that price. If it is an all-in price, it mightn’t be too far off.

There’s another thread on here about rising costs.

These guys do all our concrete work, they're big into it
They would be using steel forms

Theyre doing a 140x 16ft 6 tank the same aswell here, they're doing that a v keen price so happy enough over all

Donald Trump

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Quoted 8k for 50x 80 slab today
Going down over existing slab
It is 100x 50 but there's 20 ft of silage left that won't be used this year, we'll just concrete up to it

TAMS had grants for resurfacing silage pits.

GrasstoMilk

Donald Trump wrote: »

TAMS had grants for resurfacing silage pits.

Yes, didn't apply last autumn so no use to me now unfortunately as need it done for 1st cut

kerryjack

Dunedin wrote: »

It’ll take 30 cubic meters of concrete. Not sure of what concrete is at the minute as last summer since I last priced it but gonna guess it’ll be close enough to €100 a metre incl vat so €3k for concrete. Then it depends on what work you have to do beforehand but as a total stab in the dark a €1000 including gravel, machinery, hire of whacker, labour. Labour on the pour of the slab assuming you would be getting 2 fellas. A slab is normally a straight forward pour so 4 hours so €200 for the two boys.

Not including you might have to buy timber to form it up, are you putting in expansion joints or cutting it afterwards???

Hope that helps.

Probably come in 4 loads and you expect a load of concrete to be leveled and screeded for 50 quid, no wonder those 2 boys are flat out but there boddies must be wrecked or else they are wetting it up and its self leveling. I would be looking at getting 4 good lads for the poar 2 leveling and 2 screaning and give them 250 a day each.

Grueller

kerryjack wrote: »

Probably come in 4 loads and you expect a load of concrete to be leveled and screeded for 50 quid, no wonder those 2 boys are flat out but there boddies must be wrecked or else they are wetting it up and its self leveling. I would be looking at getting 4 good lads for the poar 2 leveling and 2 screaning and give them 250 a day each.

The right lads with good equipment and it's no bother. The 2 lads that work here arrive with a magic screed, power screed and a few other bits. The days of 2 lads hanging out of a timber are finished around here anyhow and no harm either.

Stihl waters

Grueller wrote: »

The right lads with good equipment and it's no bother. The 2 lads that work here arrive with a magic screed, power screed and a few other bits. The days of 2 lads hanging out of a timber are finished around here anyhow and no harm either.

So they're charging 150 a day providing all the gear, they'll be busy fools for the rest of their lives

Stihl waters

daesal wrote: »

Hello
I going to put in a concrete slab 14m x 14m x 152mm (6")
Im finding it hard to get rough priceing on this.
What would be the cost to have this laid?

Thanks

Labour only 600-800 depending on what finish you want on the concrete

kerryjack

Stihl waters wrote: »

So they're charging 150 a day providing all the gear, they'll be busy fools for the rest of their lives

Correct, A plumber or sparks wouldn't get out of there van for 150 euro and they expect an experiences concrete worker to slave all day for 150. I seen it down these parts where a Lad was putting in paths around his house got a couple of loads, good few lads there none of them done concrete before, really hot day concrete going off quick major panic, The last driver saved the day and fuccked them all out of his way and got some bit of a finish on it.

Grueller

Stihl waters wrote: »

So they're charging 150 a day providing all the gear, they'll be busy fools for the rest of their lives

The gear belongs to their boss who doesn't mind them doing Saturday work with it

GrasstoMilk

kerryjack wrote: »

Probably come in 4 loads and you expect a load of concrete to be leveled and screeded for 50 quid, no wonder those 2 boys are flat out but there boddies must be wrecked or else they are wetting it up and its self leveling. I would be looking at getting 4 good lads for the poar 2 leveling and 2 screaning and give them 250 a day each.

You can do a lot with a laser level and a rake if concrete is loose enough
Run of a bull float across it them

K.G.

Its nearly at the stage if you cant level it by eye you shouldn't be at it.if you ve a good eye for the chute and good hand on the tamp and the mix right its no bother to lads.it s when any.of.those are wrong..........

Stihl waters

Grueller wrote: »

The gear belongs to their boss who doesn't mind them doing Saturday work with it

So what would happen if it had to be done on Tuesday, you're not comparing like with like, 2 lads on a nixer isn't the same as s self employed lad with wages and gear to pay for, I'm 220 a day plus vat per man for any job I do and i do a lot of concrete in the summer, I'll do it a bit cheaper for cash but fcuk breaking my back at concrete for a pittance

cute geoge

Stihl waters wrote: »

So what would happen if it had to be done on Tuesday, you're not comparing like with like, 2 lads on a nixer isn't the same as s self employed lad with wages and gear to pay for, I'm 220 a day plus vat per man for any job I do and i do a lot of concrete in the summer, I'll do it a bit cheaper for cash but fcuk breaking my back at concrete for a pittance

Thats is an honest answer anyway .
Can I ask how much would you charge for the likes of the job above if no major leveling was required but set up forms

Stihl waters

cute geoge wrote: »

Thats is an honest answer anyway .
Can I ask how much would you charge for the likes of the job above if no major leveling was required but set up forms

880 plus vat for tamp finish concrete

Cavanjack

Stihl waters wrote: »

So they're charging 150 a day providing all the gear, they'll be busy fools for the rest of their lives

Anything over €150 a day cash you are better paying a man through the books. Even at €150 it’s questionable.

Grueller

Stihl waters wrote: »

So what would happen if it had to be done on Tuesday, you're not comparing like with like, 2 lads on a nixer isn't the same as s self employed lad with wages and gear to pay for, I'm 220 a day plus vat per man for any job I do and i do a lot of concrete in the summer, I'll do it a bit cheaper for cash but fcuk breaking my back at concrete for a pittance

I am not looking for an argument horse. Just saying who I use here, what they charge and their circumstances. There are lads like this in most parishes and I was basically advising the OP to stay away from concrete and pay somebody who is actually set up to do it. The labour is a pittance compared to the value of the materials that you can potentially make a ball cocks of if not properly set up.

Grueller

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anything over €150 a day cash you are better paying a man through the books. Even at €150 it’s questionable.

Unless of course you are taking in a bit of cash elsewhere and want to use it up.

Cavanjack

Grueller wrote: »

Unless of course you are taking in a bit of cash elsewhere and want to use it up.

I’d be putting cash to something that I can’t get any tax relief on. Holidays, groceries etc.

Jb1989

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anything over €150 a day cash you are better paying a man through the books. Even at €150 it’s questionable.

Sometimes it cash or nothing. Very hard to get hold of the vat registered boys. There's plenty of boys available for the cash. At times, it's pay the cash and get job done or pay for the vat and get in a long queue for your job.

Dunedin

Stihl waters wrote: »

880 plus vat for tamp finish concrete

How many men would you have on such a job?

Stihl waters

Dunedin wrote: »

How many men would you have on such a job?

1 day to get it ready for myself and 3 men the day of the pour

kerryjack

Stihl waters wrote: »

1 day to get it ready for myself and 3 men the day of the pour

Sounds reasonable to me

Donald Trump

Jb1989 wrote: »

Sometimes it cash or nothing. Very hard to get hold of the vat registered boys. There's plenty of boys available for the cash. At times, it's pay the cash and get job done or pay for the vat and get in a long queue for your job.

You can claim the VAT back. Even if unregistered

Mooooo

Donald Trump wrote: »

You can claim the VAT back. Even if unregistered

It's the amount of lads doing cash work as opposed to thru thr books is skewing thr market in the building. Its fecking crazy at the minute

kk.man

We all can pay cash but who gives us cash to pay it out... That's what I always say.

Revenue should target these cash guys with their big cars big tvs and Mrs not working at all. They live the best drink the best foreign holidays etc.

Sorry pet hate for the cash workers and yes ye are right the ones that are legitimate there is a queue.

Who2

Mooooo wrote: »

It's the amount of lads doing cash work as opposed to thru thr books is skewing thr market in the building. Its fecking crazy at the minute

Small jobs and maybe the odd private build but there’s very little cash being handed around. Six or seven years ago there was a reasonable percentage about nowadays there’s next to none. Everyone wants receipts and has some way to use them. Maybe it’s lads on the pup in the short term but that won’t last forever.

Stihl waters

Cash is great and all but any farmer or legitimate business trying to get stuff done cheaper for cash is only fooling themselves, put it through the books and keep everything above board, the only place ill get cash these days is for small 1 off jobs where you might be there a day or 2

Dunedin

If something which is vat reclaimable is €100 + €23 vat, I claim back the vat and write off the 100e as expense so it actually only costs me €48 as opposed to the €100 if I pay cash.

I stand corrected on the above but that’s my understanding.

Cavanjack

Dunedin wrote: »

If something which is vat reclaimable is €100 + €23 vat, I claim back the vat and write off the 100e as expense so it actually only costs me €48 as opposed to the €100 if I pay cash.

I stand corrected on the above but that’s my understanding.

You are right but I think a lot of lads can’t see that.

kk.man

Dunedin wrote: »

If something which is vat reclaimable is €100 + €23 vat, I claim back the vat and write off the 100e as expense so it actually only costs me €48 as opposed to the €100 if I pay cash.

I stand corrected on the above but that’s my understanding.

Yes correct. If you paid the labour by cash and big job with concrete etc and Revenue arrive and ask for the labour receipts then s>'~# hit the fan. Lads can't see that.

Jb1989

Donald Trump wrote: »

You can claim the VAT back. Even if unregistered

Oh I know.
But there is plenty of concrete and digger men out there, non vat registered, that don't want cheque, just cash.
I had to give a digger man cash in the spring, he wouldnt take cheque for all, but I needed job done, as my usual vat registered digger man was on the sites.
It was pay cash or not get the job done.

kk.man

Jb1989 wrote: »

Oh I know.
But there is plenty of concrete and digger men out there, non vat registered, that don't want cheque, just cash.
I had to give a digger man cash in the spring, he wouldnt take cheque for all, but I needed job done, as my usual vat registered digger man was on the sites.
It was pay cash or not get the job done.

Yea they are arrogant about it too.?!

Jb1989

kk.man wrote: »

Yes correct. If you paid the labour by cash and big job with concrete etc and Revenue arrive and ask for the labour receipts then s>'~# hit the fan. Lads can't see that.

Does the **** hit the fan or is it simply you just can't claim it as an expense and take the hit.
There is nothing illegal about paying cash, it's more the person accepting the cash and not declaring that's illegal.
I know there's a lot of pension farmers around here that pay cash, admittedly small jobs, but all them small Jobs can an add up if there is one man working for it.
One or two small time contractors around here that soley tank slurry or draw bales and a lot of that would be cash.

Jb1989

kk.man wrote: »

Yea they are arrogant about it too.?!

Can be yes, tho I had asked him before he started on his payment terms, when he said cash, and I told him I'd have to give cheque for some of it and I I'd take the hit on the rest.

kk.man

Jb1989 wrote: »

Does the **** hit the fan or is it simply you just can't claim it as an expense and take the hit.
There is nothing illegal about paying cash, it's more the person accepting the cash and not declaring that's illegal.
I know there's a lot of pension farmers around here that pay cash, admittedly small jobs, but all them small Jobs can an add up if there is one man working for it.
One or two small time contractors around here that soley tank slurry or draw bales and a lot of that would be cash.

Oh nothing illegal but if you claim the VAT on the product and have no way of proving the labour that's when the fun starts.

Mooooo

Who2 wrote: »

Small jobs and maybe the odd private build but there’s very little cash being handed around. Six or seven years ago there was a reasonable percentage about nowadays there’s next to none. Everyone wants receipts and has some way to use them. Maybe it’s lads on the pup in the short term but that won’t last forever.

Brother built a house and near every quote had the "cash" price for the various parts. It's still fairly rampant. Have plenty other cases of lads looking for cash. Pet hate of mine tbh

BorneTobyWilde

Any idea of todays price to do a concrete slab of say 80ft x 60ft ?

Would need to be strong enough to drive on obviously,

9935452

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/116725409#Comment_116725409

I bought a house 5 years ago. I had 3 go sale agreed. . 2 out of the 3 came back to me looking for a proportion of it in cash. 50k min.

I had to laugh at the mentailty of it.

I asked the first one how much was coming off the price of the house if he got 50k in cash. Nothing, shur i was still paying the same for the house.

The second one, the estate agent/auctioneer didnt see paying a large portion of it in cash as an issue .

Needless to say, i walked away from both houses

Cavanjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118737051#Comment_118737051

That’s 56m3 of concrete you need if you pour 5”. Last stuff I paid for was in September. It was 37n and cost €71 plus the vat which can be reclaimed. It has probably gone up at least €5 since that so €4256 plus the vat.

It depends what you are doing with it if you need steel or not. If it’s just a yard with heavy traffic not on it daily I wouldn’t bother. Steel mesh has doubled in the last couple of years.

Two men would have it ready in at least a day and give them two days to pour it maybe. So three days labour for two men whatever that may be.

Then whatever stone and digging out you need beforehand. You should probably budget €6000. Roughly

jaymla627

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118739520#Comment_118739520

Concretes gone past the 100 euro incl vat for 35n in most places and it's not going to stop at that

valtra2

Got concrete in January €99 plus vat and that was cheapest about. Gone up since. That was 40n