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maestroamado

greysides wrote: »

Thread closed for repairs.........

Subsequently re-opened.........

The word "respect " has been used a bit up to this point, I might respectfully ask that this same respect be afforded to all posters here.
Thanks. GC

]Regardless, your friend needs to go talk to the leasee. They might be glad to be rid of him too, as in my view, both you and your friend aren't coming across well so far in this thread...

This is a quote and a insult to me and my friend by a poster.
However the mod decided to leave this in place and delete my reply to same.
With all due RESPECT mod this is not how i believe a forum is supposed to work.

Back to topic the decision has being made and the contributions here have being very helpful in the decision.
He is going to plant ASAP ant Teagasc and Social Welfare can sort it out.
Farmers here please note that the Teagasc advisor i spoke to said the majority of the land they grant aid is planted is because of neglect of rented land by the tenant. The advisor looked at the land and advised owner to take pics just in case, he agreed the land neglected as the fields both sides are in very good condition.

maestroamado

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Surely the best advice is to stay out of someone else's legal problems and advise the 'friend' to speak to a solicitor.

This is not a legal problem...

cjpm

maestroamado wrote: »

This is not a legal problem...

If someone breaks a contract, it is indeed a legal issue.

Your friend needn’t worry too much about the condition of the ground if he’s planning on planting it in 2 years.

maestroamado

cjpm wrote: »

If someone breaks a contract, it is indeed a legal issue.

Your friend needn’t worry too much about the condition of the ground if he’s planning on planting it in 2 years.

All we are trying to do is solve a problem created by someone else, if the leasee had behaved in any reasonable fashion the problem would not be there.
The ground will recover in a couple of months but that's not the issue.
If the farmer decides to go legal he can but he is the person who dishonored the original agreement.
I do not know if there be consequences in payments for the leasee as i assume when Teagasc get involved all be sorted...

Dinzee Conlee

maestroamado wrote: »

]Regardless, your friend needs to go talk to the leasee. They might be glad to be rid of him too, as in my view, both you and your friend aren't coming across well so far in this thread...

This is a quote and a insult to me and my friend by a poster.
However the mod decided to leave this in place and delete my reply to same.
With all due RESPECT mod this is not how i believe a forum is supposed to work.

Will you go away with your 'insult' - I said you arent coming across well, and I would say you coming across even worse as the posts keep coming in...

maestroamado wrote: »

Back to topic the decision has being made and the contributions here have being very helpful in the decision.
He is going to plant ASAP ant Teagasc and Social Welfare can sort it out.

So - to confirm, your friend had Teagasc out to look at the land for planting, knowing he had the land let for another 2 years? Thats fair enough, planning is good...
But he has made the decision to plant ASAP, and break the lease - without talking to the tenant?

Do you not see how underhanded this is being?

maestroamado wrote: »

Farmers here please note that the Teagasc advisor i spoke to said the majority of the land they grant aid is planted is because of neglect of rented land by the tenant.

So the majority of land planted has previously been rented out by poor tenants?
All of the forestry we hear about in Leitrim and places is all down to bad tenants?
Are you sure you aren't spicing up what was said to you to back up your own view?

maestroamado wrote: »

The advisor looked at the land and advised owner to take pics just in case, he agreed the land neglected as the fields both sides are in very good condition.

What does the lease say?
This sounds like your friend doesnt like how the land is being farmed, and whats it to look as nice as the neighbours.
Thats not how leases work - you lease out your land, you must accept that someone else will farm it, and you dont get to dictate what it looks like...

Again, I would say get your friend to talk to the tenant, they may well be glad to exit this situation as well...

maestroamado

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Will you go away with your 'insult' - I said you arent coming across well, and I would say you coming across even worse as the posts keep coming in...



So - to confirm, your friend had Teagasc out to look at the land for planting, knowing he had the land let for another 2 years? Thats fair enough, planning is good...
But he has made the decision to plant ASAP, and break the lease - without talking to the tenant?

Do you not see how underhanded this is being?



So the majority of land planted has previously been rented out by poor tenants?
All of the forestry we hear about in Leitrim and places is all down to bad tenants?
Are you sure you aren't spicing up what was said to you to back up your own view?



What does the lease say?
This sounds like your friend doesnt like how the land is being farmed, and whats it to look as nice as the neighbours.
Thats not how leases work - you lease out your land, you must accept that someone else will farm it, and you dont get to dictate what it looks like...

Again, I would say get your friend to talk to the tenant, they may well be glad to exit this situation as well...

I clearly have no interest in your opinion... This game is over...
You come across exactly the same as the person we trying to deal with.
Teagasc are there for a purpose.. this is it...

893bet

Where is the photo?

The neglect of the land is still not clear.

yabadabado

What specifically have they done to the land in the 3 years ?
Seems like its just sheep on it grazing ,any pictures of the damage etc ?

maestroamado

893bet wrote: »

Where is the photo?

The neglect of the land is still not clear.

I am having difficulty attaching as i never put pic here before...
I have pic but cannot get transfer to here...

893bet

Upload it to

https://postimages.org/

And then it will give you a forum hotlink you can paste in.

What they are doing “wrong” as per the lease has not been explained.

Genghis Cant

This game is over indeed. Thread closed. OP you got all the advice you need , and possibly more. Good luck. GC