Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

badger54

badger54 wrote: »

Got tested at one of the centres today. No symptoms, no close contacts but I'd like to know and I believe that the more testing, the more data the better.

Centre was well organised. The nasal swab itself wasn't even mildly uncomfortable. I literally felt nothing.

Micky 32

RobitTV wrote: »

Newstalk: Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary says he believes people from the Republic of Ireland will use Belfast 'as a means of escaping' this June

Michael O'Leary has said he expects countries across Europe to stop 'locking people down' from June.

"There's a 24-hour news cycle at the moment feeding all this hysteria - we're still only in the middle of March, and I think the situation will have changed markedly by the time we get to June/July/August".

On the new routes from Belfast, he said: "We think a lot of people from the Republic of Ireland are going to use these flights as a means of escaping to Portugal, Greece and Italy in the earlier part of the summer - even while Ireland's vaccine programme lags considerably behind the success of the UK programme".

Newstalk

Varadkar saying today “ a lot more countries are going to be added to the quarantine list”

Furthermore he’s saying he doesn’t think cases will drop below 500 a day. Is this a hint to us level 5 is here until autumn/winter until we’re all vaccinated i wonder.

ninebeanrows

Grand numbers today great positivity rate.

Think we seriously need to consider opening up some parts of society, we won't be getting it down much more than this, so let's get on with our lives.

ceadaoin.

badger54 wrote: »

Got tested at one of the centres today. No symptoms, no close contacts but I'd like to know and I believe that the more testing, the more data the better.

Centre was well organised. The nasal swab itself wasn't even mildly uncomfortable. I literally felt nothing.

Do you normally get yourself tested for viruses that you've no symtoms for or reason to think you have? The flu? Hepatitis? Rabies?

Hooked

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Do you normally get yourself tested for viruses that you've no symtoms for or reason to think you have? The flu? Hepatitis? Rabies?

But shur, isn't that their agenda...

They've run out of other ways to keep the case NUMBERS up...
so that they can keep US down...

badger54

Deleted User wrote: »

:):)

Not the case. The swab is about a third the width of the normal cotton swab.

He did a quick swab of my inner cheek, then turned swab around and used the other end in my nostril, he pushed it a bit back but genuinely didn't feel uncomfortable at all!

Penfailed

fin12 wrote: »

Why can’t u vote in the poll ? And results are hidden? Is it censorship cause it’s not the answer rte n government want to see?

It's from a merged thread. No censorship, no conspiracy.

kippy

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Do you normally get yourself tested for viruses that you've no symtoms for or reason to think you have? The flu? Hepatitis? Rabies?

To be frank about it, I think it is import to try capture numbers of those that are infected but would not have sought out testing if only to try build a model of how many cases there might have been in the past year that never made the numbers.
Based on my own experience, I'd suggest there are close to a million people in this country who have been infected in the past year.

Antares35

badger54 wrote: »

Got tested at one of the centres today. No symptoms, no close contacts but I'd like to know and I believe that the more testing, the more data the better.

Centre was well organised. The nasal swab itself wasn't even mildly uncomfortable. I literally felt nothing.

Sure it's a day out isn't it.

badger54

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Do you normally get yourself tested for viruses that you've no symtoms for or reason to think you have? The flu? Hepatitis? Rabies?

No I don't. I have never lived through a global pandemic before.

The point of these walk in test centres is for people who do not have any symptoms or close contacts (who have tested positive) to get tested so that the results can be used to assess asymptomatic cases in the community. That's the sole reason for these walk in test centres. I am precisely the type of person that should use the walk in centre. So, I'm not sure that I understand your point frankly.

That data could be used to make informed decisions on public health issues now and in the future. Who knows, could have a positive impact on lockdown.

kippy

kippy wrote: »

To be frank about it, I think it is import to try capture numbers of those that are infected but would not have sought out testing if only to try build a model of how many cases there might have been in the past year that never made the numbers.
Based on my own experience, I'd suggest there are close to a million people in this country who have been infected in the past year.

Maybe there is one element that would give a false picture however. Ignoring all the other reasons people may go for a test without symptoms, those purely going just because they want to know would not be representative of the average person therefore not representative of the wider population, so using the data to dry inferences could be problematic.

This was the problem with the abysmal serology study conducted here last summer.

To truly get what you were after you would need a representative sample selected including compelling those who may otherwise refuse to get tested, which some may find problematic.

badger54

Antares35 wrote: »

Sure it's a day out isn't it.

The whole process took 15 - 20 minutes!

suicide_circus

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0325/1206064-covid-vaccines/

So Leo is saying it's hard to see numbers going below 500 per day due to the B117 variant and despite lockdown efforts.

OwenM

suicide_circus wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0325/1206064-covid-vaccines/

So Leo is saying it's hard to see numbers going below 500 per day due to the B117 variant and despite lockdown efforts.

And Ronan Glynn says they have to go below 200. Do we have an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object?

facehugger99

OwenM wrote: »

And Ronan Glynn says they have to go below 200. Do we have an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object?

Varadkar is about as immovable as a wet tissue.

MOH

So we're finally getting 7-day retrospective contact tracing, only 8 months after de Gascun told us we already had everything in place to fully trace any clusters.
Nolan must be pretty miffed we're wasting this effort on an academic exercise.

Absolute disgrace it's taken this long to implement this.

FintanMcluskey

MOH wrote: »

So we're finally getting 7-day retrospective contact tracing, only 8 months after de Gascun told us we already had everything in place to fully trace any clusters.
Nolan must be pretty miffed we're wasting this effort on an academic exercise.

Absolute disgrace it's taken this long to implement this.

Hopefully we can finally access the carnage that would ensue if we reopened construction or allowed people past 5km of their houses.

I imagine it would be death on a scale not seen since the beach landings in Normandy.

SAMTALK

badger54 wrote: »

No I don't. I have never lived through a global pandemic before.

The point of these walk in test centres is for people who do not have any symptoms or close contacts (who have tested positive) to get tested so that the results can be used to assess asymptomatic cases in the community. That's the sole reason for these walk in test centres. I am precisely the type of person that should use the walk in centre. So, I'm not sure that I understand your point frankly.

That data could be used to make informed decisions on public health issues now and in the future. Who knows, could have a positive impact on lockdown.

Don't be talking sense !!

Much more dramatic to say NPHET want numbers to go rise so they can keep level 5 and Tony can keep pubs closed

Itssoeasy

Well living with Covid is going well.

FintanMcluskey

SAMTALK wrote: »

Don't be talking sense !!

Much more dramatic to say NPHET want numbers to go rise so they can keep level 5 and Tony can keep pubs closed

Those testing centres were useful in March 2020 when we had no option of a vaccine

The only purpose those testing centres will serve is to bring further suppression measures and misery on people. Not less

TonyMaloney

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Do you normally get yourself tested for viruses that you've no symtoms for or reason to think you have? The flu? Hepatitis? Rabies?

Eh, yes.

HIV. Without asymptomatic testing for HIV the scale of the global AIDS crisis would have been much, much larger.

Did you have a problem with asymptomatic testing for HIV, or is it just this particular global epidemic where you'd like us to ignore the infected?

big syke

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Eh, yes.

HIV. Without asymptomatic testing for HIV the scale of the global AIDS crisis would have been much, much larger.

Did you have a problem with asymptomatic testing for HIV, or is it just this particular global epidemic where you'd like us to ignore the infected?

People got tested for HIV becasue they had reason to believe they may have it.

i.e. may have slept with someone who got it, came in contact with a needle etc etc

Asymptomatic testing for covid like this is a waste of resources.

SAMTALK

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Those testing centres were useful in March 2020 when we had no option of a vaccine

The only purpose those testing centres will serve is to bring further suppression measures and misery on people. Not less

Or maybe look on the positive side for once Fintan

It might also alert people who can spread the virus without knowing it,

It will help people who need a test if the want to visit someone with an underlying condition

It will help stall the spread in large areas by people who don't know they have it

Multipass

Varadkar is quoted in the news today as saying that the virus has mutated and is ‘more deadly’.
I have never seen any evidence of any of the variants being more deadly, how does no-one challenge him on the scaremongering. They’re scraping the bottom now trying to dig up ways to control the population with fear. They should know that it undermines anything else they say, I don’t believe a word that comes out of any of their mouths at this stage.

Renault 5

It’s gotten to the stage where I despise the Government.

In my 40 years I never thought I would feel this way about the people in charge of looking after the country.

2008 didn’t even match up to the feelings I have towards them.

pueblo

[QUOTE=badger54;116690299]No I don't. I have never lived through a global pandemic before.

The point of these walk in test centres is for people who do not have any symptoms or close contacts (who have tested positive) to get tested so that the results can be used to assess asymptomatic cases in the community. That's the sole reason for these walk in test centres. I am precisely the type of person that should use the walk in centre. So, I'm not sure that I understand your point frankly.

That data could be used to make informed decisions on public health issues now and in the future. Who knows, could have a positive impact on lockdown.[/QUOTE]


So you are under 12 years of age?

paw patrol

facehugger99 wrote: »

Varadkar is about as immovable as a wet tissue.

I have this feeling - pure conjuncture on my part - the current situation pleases Leo. He becomes Taoiseach soon enough and opens up everything.

Then while basking in our adulation - as this centuries Michael Collins - he tells us it was all Mehole and he saved us from ruin.

Anybody who thinks that sounds far fetched? You havent paid attention cos that's Varadkar to T.

FintanMcluskey

SAMTALK wrote: »

Or maybe look on the positive side for once Fintan

It might also alert people who can spread the virus without knowing it,

It will help people who need a test if the want to visit someone with an underlying condition

It will help stall the spread in large areas by people who don't know they have it

It’s essentially looking for the virus behind the couch and under the bed with a flashlight.

NPHET follow belief not science and this will be no different

If case numbers rise, the siren will sound, the schools will close and will remain closed for months.

We need to focus on the vaccine, or the cure

Focusing on the cause has been a disaster

JDxtra

If they are testing huge numbers of random asymptomatic people, then case numbers are no longer a useful measurement to gauge our progress.

This is very important because they WILL use these increased numbers to justify continued restrictions.

The only stats that matter are how many have been vaccinated and how many in hospital and ICU.

hynesie08

paw patrol wrote: »

I have this feeling - pure conjuncture on my part - the current situation pleases Leo. He becomes Taoiseach soon enough and opens up everything.

Then while basking in our adulation - as this centuries Michael Collins - he tells us it was all Mehole and he saved us from ruin.

Anybody who thinks that sounds far fetched? You havent paid attention cos that's Varadkar to T.

He's not due to be Taoiseach till the end of 2022....