Should the internet be turned off for a week?

km991148

s8n wrote: »

Any consideration for those who earn a living off internet based companies ?

or

The fact we get the majority of our entertainment & news from online sources ?

I'm yes to both and still say get it to fk and turn it off..

Sunny Disposition

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

How would the Irish government turn off satellite internet access provided by companies outside of the State?

Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

Gregor Samsa

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

How could the government tell them, if they've already turned off the rest of the internet? There'd be no gov.ie email. They couldn't even look them up to get their address to send them a letter in the post. Or use Google Translate to write the letter in their language. You haven't thought this though at all.

The J Stands for Jay

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

I'm not being awkward, I'm just asking about my own situation. When I go into the office and open Google, it gives me information based on the company's head office, as that is where the internet is accessed. They have private network connections between locations, and they all get internet access from that location.

The J Stands for Jay

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Tell them they have to, would only be fair to give them a bit of notice though. I think some of ye are only trying to make up problems for the sake of being awkward now.

It's not possible to turn off satellite internet without shutting down the entire service for all countries. Not happening

Sunny Disposition

McGaggs wrote: »

It's not possible to turn off satellite internet without shutting down the entire service for all countries. Not happening

It’s not nearly as hard do as it seems, genuinely it isn’t.

Gregor Samsa

McGaggs wrote: »

I'm not being awkward, I'm just asking about my own situation. When I go into the office and open Google, it gives me information based on the company's head office, as that is where the internet is accessed. They have private network connections between locations, and they all get internet access from that location.

Your company is using a VPN, so while the ultimate connection to websites is done though your head office's servers (and to those sites, it looks like you're connecting from that country), you're still using Irish internet infrastructure to connect to that VPN.

If the Irish government managed to turn off the internet in Ireland, that VPN wouldn't work as it would not be able to communicate with the servers in head office in the first place.

MissShihTzu

Was this a serious question? How are we to work and make telephone calls (Most phone lines are VOIP). Some of us have to work over the Bank Holiday, you know!

Gregor Samsa

MissShihTzu wrote: »

Was this a serious question? How are we to work and make telephone calls (Most phone lines are VOIP). Some of us have to work over the Bank Holiday, you know!

I think the OP's plan would be that you'd do a bit of contemplation instead of working and making phone calls.

ShatterAlan

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

They’ll need to roll with it and adapt. Farmers can’t make the rain stop falling, these businesses won’t be allowed keep the internet on all day and night indefinitely if the Government decide to turn it off.

What are you on?


How can the government decide to "turn off" the internet? It's not like you flip a switch and the internet is "turned off". It's a global mesh of interconnected computers.


And you talk about businesses needing to "roll with it". What kind of inane statement is that. Outside of the SWIFT network for money transactions, nobody will be able to make online bank payments, companies can't place or fulfill orders, datacenters can't be backed up, they can't even be monitored. As an engineer I could stay here all day boring the tits off you with what couldn't be done if the internet was "switched off" and then the ensuing mess once it is "turned back on".

Sunny Disposition

ShatterAlan wrote: »

What are you on?


How can the government decide to "turn off" the internet? It's not like you flip a switch and the internet is "turned off". It's a global mesh of interconnected computers.


And you talk about businesses needing to "roll with it". What kind of inane statement is that. Outside of the SWIFT network for money transactions, nobody will be able to make online bank payments, companies can't place or fulfill orders, datacenters can't be backed up, they can't even be monitored. As an engineer I could stay here all day boring the tits off you with what couldn't be done if the internet was "switched off" and then the ensuing mess once it is "turned back on".

It’s actually not that different from flicking a switch given a nation state’s power, strange as it may seem.
Yeah, it will cause disruption, there’s no doubt, but you wouldn’t tell an alcoholic to keep drinking in case he’d find it the first few days off the drink hard.

Strumms

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

It’s actually not that different from flicking a switch given a nation state’s power, strange as it may seem.
Yeah, it will cause disruption, there’s no doubt, but you wouldn’t tell an alcoholic to keep drinking in case he’d find it the first few days off the drink hard.

Alcoholism is a disease.

The internet by and large is a positive social, business, commerce, electronic mail platform that’s also used for governance, banking, security, transportation, for delivery of healthcare etc... so cause disruption ? It would cause deaths most likely...

That’s for starters... Sunny Disposition needs to get some Sunny Delight if they think that switching off the internet is a good thing...the vitamin D and C work wonders.. I’m told..

Sunny Disposition

Strumms wrote: »

Alcoholism is a disease.

The internet by and large is a positive social, business, commerce, electronic mail platform that’s also used for governance, banking, security, transportation, for delivery of healthcare etc... so cause disruption ? It would cause deaths most likely...

That’s for starters... Sunny Disposition needs to get some Sunny Delight if they think that switching off the internet is a good thing...the vitamin D and C work wonders.. I’m told..

You’re just being abusive, not engaging in serious debate.

The J Stands for Jay

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

It’s not nearly as hard do as it seems, genuinely it isn’t.

How do you think we are able to watch satellite TV channels that aren't intended for us?

The J Stands for Jay

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Your company is using a VPN, so while the ultimate connection to websites is done though your head office's servers (and to those sites, it looks like you're connecting from that country), you're still using Irish internet infrastructure to connect to that VPN.

If the Irish government managed to turn off the internet in Ireland, that VPN wouldn't work as it would not be able to communicate with the servers in head office in the first place.

Someone in IT once told me the company had their own cables that the data went through. Of that person was correct, it'd be unaffected by an internet switch off.

The J Stands for Jay

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

It’s actually not that different from flicking a switch given a nation state’s power, strange as it may seem.
Yeah, it will cause disruption, there’s no doubt, but you wouldn’t tell an alcoholic to keep drinking in case he’d find it the first few days off the drink hard.

A better analogy would be trying to turn off the electric grid because some alcoholics are using electric stills to make their own alcohol, and to hell with all the hospitals, schools, businesses arc that need power.

Temptamperu

Can OP not just turn his own internet off and leave the rest of us alone?

Gregor Samsa

McGaggs wrote: »

Someone in IT once told me the company had their own cables that the data went through. Of that person was correct, it'd be unaffected by an internet switch off.

Think about it. Your company has not strung its own optic fibre cables from your office in Ireland, under the ground or via poles to the coast, then across the sea bed, to the coast of some other country, then back up into land and either under the ground or via poles all the way to the HQ office, just for its own use. Even if your company was Google, they have not done that.

Surreptitious

Temptamperu wrote: »

Can OP not just turn his own internet off and leave the rest of us alone?

Then they wouldn't be able to start a thread about it

Temptamperu

Surreptitious wrote: »

Then they wouldn't be able to start a thread about it

how is that a bad thing?

murpho999

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

How would the Irish government turn off satellite internet access provided by companies outside of the State?

They'd send up the government jet and shoot down the sattelites.

Gregor Samsa

murpho999 wrote: »

They'd send up the government jet and shoot down the sattelites.

Willie O’Dea with his pistol, hanging out the window, blasting away at them.

AMKC

No. Just take a break if you need to but don't expect whole internet to just shut down lol. That's crazy talk.

Fathom

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost.

Unsure that a "huge mental health boost" would follow. What would happen to all the employees who are now working from home online as a COVID social distancing adaptation? Or small businesses that shifted from store front to online because of COVID, who may be just getting by online? Or schools that shifted instruction from in-person to online distance learning for students? Or sites like boards that rely on online access to survive? To what extent would this proposed 1-week cut off drive all these folks to a "huge mental health" crash?

Galwayguy35

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost. Also it would give people a chance to realise they were gone too into twitter and facebook etc. Even if the Government just did it from say Good Friday to late on Easter Sunday night wouldn't it give us a chance for contemplation. Should they do it?

Those of us who knew what life was like before the internet would be grand, they younger generation would probably lose their minds.

limnam

If there was a turn off the utter cesspit section of the internet button it might do a bit of good alright.

Although, god knows what the lunatics on twitter would do if they had some spare time, probably best left where we know where they're and what they're doing.

riclad

Apart from business and online learning many people use the web for tv streaming ,youtube, netflix.
podcasts, online radio.
the only countrys that switch off the web are russia,pakistan,middle eastern countrys, india, turkey, eg when they wish to stop people organising in order to protest against government curruption and the lack of human rights
and free speech .if you are using social media too much simple disable the apps on your phone.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-50819905

MissShihTzu

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

I think the OP's plan would be that you'd do a bit of contemplation instead of working and making phone calls.

Very nice. But contemplation ain't paying my bills!!

BeerWolf

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

This would give everyone a break and could provide us with a huge mental health boost. Also it would give people a chance to realise they were gone too into twitter and facebook etc. Even if the Government just did it from say Good Friday to late on Easter Sunday night wouldn't it give us a chance for contemplation. Should they do it?

During a lockdown, are you daft?

Sunny Disposition

BeerWolf wrote: »

During a lockdown, are you daft?

No, I am not. But if people would rather wait until September I’d allow that.