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Man kills 8 in multi-venue attack

  • 17-03-2021 1:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/16/atlanta-massage-parlor-shootings
    The killings occurred amid a rising number of attacks on Asian Americans across the US since the start of the coronavirus pandemic. Six of those killed were Asian while two were white.

    “It appears that they may be Asian,” Atlanta’s police chief, Rodney Bryant, said, with South Korea’s foreign ministry adding in statement on Wednesday that its diplomats in Atlanta had confirmed from police that four of the victims who died were women of Korean descent.

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    This seems to be a trend now since Covid 19 was associated with China by Donald Trump, obviously all gooks look the same to a western goon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,462 ✭✭✭✭ Tell me how


    The thread title should be edited. It's not factually incorrect, but it is unnecessarily provocative.
    Would be the case if a thread on different attacks were started with 'A Black' or 'A Muslim'.

    That aside, on initial readings on this, your link between the former president's rhetoric (which he repeated as recently as the last couple of weeks) is probably a very relevant point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭ Kumejima


    Cheers dude, thanks for letting me know the race of the perpetrator. How else would I know that I should extrapolate a racial angle to this. I'll be sure to give these "white guys" a wide berth. I sure wouldn't want to make the mistake of not associating this one incident with all the other people who share his race and gender, and shall proceed to hate and ostracise them en masse from here on out. Happy Paddys Day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    I bet he belongs to a religion of peace :)

    ps surprised no one got this thread up and running, could he be because he is white?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭ BanditLuke


    Racist thread title.


  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭ Real Donald Trump


    If it were a black man we would not hear about race.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,462 ✭✭✭✭ Tell me how


    If it were a black man we would not hear about race.

    We most definitely would, it just wouldn't be in the thread title.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭ jam_mac_jam


    Not sure it's really necessary to use a racist slur against the victims.

    Maybe a little bit crass?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,840 ✭✭✭ fvp4


    Trumps rhetoric is appalling. However the US as a whole is not going to be able to maintain its imperial attitudes to China without this kind of thing kicking off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,040 ✭✭✭ PsychoPete


    He must have been rubbed up the wrong way


  • Administrators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,689 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭ Tokyo


    obviously all gooks look the same to a western goon.
    I bet he belongs to a religion of peace :)
    ps surprised no one got this thread up and running, could he be because he is white?

    Mod: Going for the trifecta I see. Don't think this forum is for you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭ begbysback



    ps surprised no one got this thread up and running, could he be because he is white?

    No, most likely because the op is going to now have to walk on ice, and spend the rest of the thread explaining why they are not racist, good luck!!!


  • Administrators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,689 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭ Tokyo


    Mod:

    Thread title updated. Thread will remain open as it's a topic worthy of discussion. However please don't drag conjecture as to the man's motivations unless you can bring some for of evidence to the table to back it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,784 ✭✭✭ BattleCorp


    What's an anti-suicide smock? Is it a piece of clothing that you can't hang yourself with?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭ Wojtek the Bear


    So this guy waited a full year after Covid and 2 months after Trump left office and only now he's "inspired by Trump's anti-China Covid rhetoric" into killing people that are not Chinese?

    Magnificent mental gymnastics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭✭✭ MadameHussein


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    He must have been rubbed up the wrong way

    Not really sure how the fact that some of the women may or may not have been sex workers makes their murders warrant a cheap joke.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭ BloodBath


    Are people still trying to blame Trump for everything? Get over it, he's not the president anymore.

    The reality is the US is a ****hole full of mentally unstable people drugged up to the eyeballs on harmful drugs (illegal or prescription) and terrible diets with food standards not fit for a dog.

    It happened in Georgia too, 1 of the most racist states in the US long before Trump came to power. That still doesn't mean it's racially motivated. He could just as easily have been a religious nut who found out this massage parlor was offering services beyond just massage.

    His facebook posts point towards the religious angle more so than a racist Trump motivated one.

    Op complains about racism and uses a racist term in his op. Genius.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭ suicide_circus


    Wait til the trump voters hear about the UK and Brazilian variants, there will be killings in Fish & Chips restaurants and Samba clubs up and down the land


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭ James Brown


    So when a minority carries out an attack we tar his entire race and/or religion with his crimes.
    When a white lad does it, so far seemingly race motivated, we attack the op, the creation of the thread and the idea that Trump might have helped the lad justify it in his mind.
    Got it.

    Lone wolf so. We'll no doubt read about how he was a good lad had some troubles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,946 ✭✭✭✭ alchemist33


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    What's an anti-suicide smock? Is it a piece of clothing that you can't hang yourself with?

    Yes, it should be non-tearable


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,462 ✭✭✭✭ Tell me how


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Are people still trying to blame Trump for everything? Get over it, he's not the president anymore.

    The reality is the US is a ****hole full of mentally unstable people drugged up to the eyeballs on harmful drugs (illegal or prescription) and terrible diets with food standards not fit for a dog.

    It happened in Georgia too, 1 of the most racist states in the US long before Trump came to power. That still doesn't mean it's racially motivated. He could just as easily have been a religious nut who found out this massage parlor was offering services beyond just massage.

    His facebook posts point towards the religious angle more so than a racist Trump motivated one.

    Op complains about racism and uses a racist term in his op. Genius.

    Not blaming.

    But, given the fervor with which many people still support the former President and with his insistence in referring to the Covid 19 virus in such terms as to identify it by a culture, it is entirely reasonable to wonder if the increase in attacks on people of Asian backgrounds over the last couple of months and this latest one have been carried out by people influenced by his message.

    Radicalisation isn't something that just happen to people of other backgrounds. All that being said, the true motives of this person have yet to be disclosed but it is reasonable to that Trumps message be alluded to here.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭ Smee_Again


    Radicalisation isn't something that just happen to people of other backgrounds.

    This is a great point that some people would do well to dwell on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭ BloodBath


    So when a minority carries out an attack we tar his entire race and/or religion with his crimes.
    When a white lad does it, so far seemingly race motivated, we attack the op, the creation of the thread and the idea that Trump might have helped the lad justify it in his mind.
    Got it.

    Lone wolf so. We'll no doubt read about how he was a good lad had some troubles.

    There was 0 evidence provided to suggest it was racially motivated or Trump had anything to do with it.

    It may well have been but anything is conjecture at this point.

    So do you mind providing some evidence that it was racially motivated outside of your own prejudices?

    The real problem is mental health stemming from ****e diets, drugs, poor education and crap media and how parasites like religious organizations, cult groups like proud boys and antifa and greasy politicians (not just Trump) latch on to those people to warp their minds even further to achieve their own goals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,462 ✭✭✭✭ Tell me how


    So this guy waited a full year after Covid and 2 months after Trump left office and only now he's "inspired by Trump's anti-China Covid rhetoric" into killing people that are not Chinese?

    Magnificent mental gymnastics.

    But every attack by a person from the middle east is automatically motivated by the teachings of their religion?

    And the statements we've seen on here about such attacks are much definitive than what is posted on this thread.

    By all means, demand the wait for all details before topics are discussed, but, try to be consistent in calling for a need for the facts.

    This attack was carried out on 3 locations several miles apart so he was obviously motivated to attack people associated with these locations.
    What do you think his motivation might have been, or are you only here to defend Trump?


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    America is basically an open mental asylum at this stage.

    Sad


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭ BloodBath


    But every attack by a person from the middle east is automatically motivated by the teachings of their religion?

    And the statements we've seen on here about such attacks are much definitive than what is posted on this thread.

    By all means, demand the wait for all details before topics are discussed, but, try to be consistent in calling for a need for the facts.

    This attack was carried out on 3 locations several miles apart so he was obviously motivated to attack people associated with these locations.
    What do you think his motivation might have been, or are you only here to defend Trump?

    All 3 were massage parlors, there's your connection. He could have killed Asians anywhere. Why 3 "massage" parlors?

    Looks to me like the very common religious motivated attack by someone with severe mental problems. Maybe racism is also part of that. 2 bird with 1 stone kind of thing.

    Somehow Trump get's the blame rather than the church though?

    Maybe your own mind is warped?

    I hope he get's executed for his crimes. No room in society for dangerous psychopaths' regardless of their reasoning.

    A fairly right wing thing to think but I'd lean to the left on a lot of things as well. There's nuance and complexity to everything that's sadly lost these days.

    You have to pick your side and stick to it regardless it seems. Every 1 of these attacks an opportunity to sling mud at perceived opponents. Primitive tribalistic nonsense. That's US culture in a nutshell though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,482 ✭✭✭✭ J. Marston


    Not a racist. Just an angry neckbeard incel...

    https://twitter.com/ChenueHer/status/1372195226400534530


  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭ Housefree


    :

    This seems to be a trend now since Covid 19 was associated with China by Donald Trump, obviously all gooks look the same to a western goon.

    Not all the news coverage of the outbreak in Wuhan and the fact the pandemic started in China?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭ BloodBath


    So it was religiously motivated. Most obvious answer is obvious. Sex addict with mental health problems being conflicted by his churches teachings goes bat**** crazy and kills a bunch of people. Where have we seen this before?

    What angle are ye going to take now TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome aka tedious) people?

    Neckbeard does sum him up though. Wtf is that thing. Looks like shaved pubes glued to his face.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,960 ✭✭✭✭ Sand


    So when a minority carries out an attack we tar his entire race and/or religion with his crimes.
    When a white lad does it, so far seemingly race motivated, we attack the op, the creation of the thread and the idea that Trump might have helped the lad justify it in his mind.
    But every attack by a person from the middle east is automatically motivated by the teachings of their religion

    This is complete projection. The reality is whenever a non-white person commits a mass killing or other terrorist event, people coming diving from every angle with 'Not all X are like that!' or that it is utterly abhorrent to draw any wider conclusions about the group the attacker hails from. Then there is the accusation that people are exploiting a tragedy for political ends and how vile that is. People expend a great deal of effort to deny, dismiss and diminish when the attacker is non-white.

    Yet any time there is a white person involved in any sort of altercation - ranging from smirking inappropriately up to shootings - the act is immediately cast in racial terms. The race of the white person is immediately taken as being the motivation for the action. Broad conclusions are drawn about all white people, and particularly all white men, with white people being portrayed as a problem that needs to be solved. The most recent example being this death in London, but lets not forget the Karen hysteria. There is no restraint in exploiting the victim(s) for the fullest possible political gain.

    So enough with trying to pin your own hypocrisy on others.
    But, given the fervor with which many people still support the former President and with his insistence in referring to the Covid 19 virus in such terms as to identify it by a culture, it is entirely reasonable to wonder if the increase in attacks on people of Asian backgrounds over the last couple of months and this latest one have been carried out by people influenced by his message.

    But people only made an issue of that because it was Trump. It was just another 'Trump did X, Trump is evil so X is evil'. Nobody made an issue at all of the 'UK Variant' or the 'South African variant' being referenced as such. Nobody is proposing that British, South African or Brazilian people are at a higher risk of attack because of variants of the virus being associated with their point of origin. That whole newscycle was nonsense from start to finish.

    As for black people attacking Asians - haven't you heard? It's white people to blame. Again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,204 ✭✭✭ partyguinness


    Depressingly this type of mass shooting is 'normal' in the US and barely registers anymore.


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