Cycling Mikey

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061548#Comment_119061548

Yes, the identity of the caped crusader will never be known.

Nice of you to pick sides with the dangerous driver though.

Seve OB

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061396#Comment_119061396

Yes.

you were looking for examples. I don’t know what he was doing off camera though, how could I.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061565#Comment_119061565

Please don't conflate my opinion that the cyclist was acting like an arsehole, as approval of the driver using his phone while at the wheel.

He was winding the driver up. He made his point, but then made the situation worse by continuing to film, and taunt the guy. It was harassment.

As far as I'm concerned, after that, he loses any credibility for calling the guy out in the first place. And while "cyling mikey" may be known amongst the cycling community, he is probably not known to non-cyclists, or the driver of the car.

To him, he is probably just another nut-job who needs to get an actual life.

Seve OB

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061716#Comment_119061716

Well said

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061696#Comment_119061696

Just a bit surprised that people are commenting on off-camera gestures that they didn't see, when in fact, the gesture was repeated on camera when questioned. The implication that he was using off-camera gestures to secretly wind people up doesn't really stand up.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119061716#Comment_119061716

Sorry for my misunderstanding.

He was certainly taunting the guy, but it's a bit of a stretch to call it harassment. If the guy was actually feeling harassed, the first thing he would do is put up the window and stop engaging. The driver wanted an argument, and was very keen to engage. When the engagement didn't go according to plan, he decided to play the victim card and claim harassment, while continuing to engage and abuse.

Mikey literally told him how to find his channel on YouTube, so any suggestion that he was hiding behind anonymity doesn't really stand up either.

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119060282#Comment_119060282

Lol it's this level of antagonistic bs that pisses people off. You've thrown those ridiculous scenarios at me before... They just don't compare.

The off camera hand gesture was Mikey waving his little finger at a driver to call him small dicked. It went on camera as the driver called it out. You think that's a reasonable thing for a grown man to be doing? Actually no need to answer, because I suspect I know...

km991148

"The implication that he was using off-camera gestures to secretly wind people up doesn't really stand up."

Incidentally there was no implications. He was actually gesturing off camera before he then had to repeat it on camera because the driver called him out.

The two of them were acting like arseholes.. what's the point in getting involved in a roadside argument (other than to produce material for yt..).

One day he will come a cropper for sure. Hopefully not, but if he keeps going down that path it won't end well.

CramCycle

I don't get the antagonism in the UK where his video will end up getting them punished. Over here nothing would happen so I would see the point in antagonism just to get the point across. This obviously is a personal choice and I 100% respect anyone who doesn't because f*CK knows nowadays how vicious a reaction someone could have.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119067695#Comment_119067695

So what if he pissed people off? Maybe people who drive round on the phone need to be pissed off?

That's his choice. If you don't like his style, don't watch his videos, just to get yourself all riled up. They're not mandatory.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119067729#Comment_119067729

The idea of some conspiracy around the gestures is nonsense. Of course it was off-camera, because the camera is on his head and his hands are at a lower level. He had no difficulty in repeating the gesture for the camera when it was queried. He didn't seem to be embarrassed by the gesture. There is no indication it was off-camera for any particular reason.

It's hilarious the lengths to which people will go to have a go at the guy who's got over 1,000 penalty points issued to dangerous drivers, got 15-20 dangerous drivers disqualified. He has some record to be proud of.

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068094#Comment_119068094

No. I'm not riled up in any way. Not by Mikey. He does a good job, I just think he needs to wind his neck in a bit before he gets thumped.

The antagonistic bs that I refer to was *your* comments - all your talk about dog crap or whatever. It's nonsense comparisons and you've been here before.

Regarding this stuff about conspiracy theories, what are you blethering on about? I said he was being a prick (yes off camera) and he was, what's the big deal? Why do you get so upset that I call this out? Especially to go on a multi page crusade each time it happens? There are no lengths to go to lol. Good people can be dickheads too you know..

These discussions always go round in circles. You have your style, I have mine and I know which type of road use I prefer.

Seve OB

Lol

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068187#Comment_119068187

Mikey's style has gotten over a thousand penalty points issued. What has your style got?

Mikey could have got the 1k without the interaction and afters, how does him antagonising people gain more penalty points?

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068591#Comment_119068591

Honestly, what's your problem?

Don't be critical of Mikey or you'll upset AJR!!!

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068615#Comment_119068615

Exactly the good work he does is separate to his backchats and smarmy comments. Dunno why I'm being personally brought into it tho lol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068632#Comment_119068632

Yeah I'd have more time for him was his "style" ninja, reporting stuff as he encounters it and him posting a pic of 1000 notches on his top tube for all the points he's had delivered to bad drivers.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068615#Comment_119068615

Why don't you go and get a thousand penalty points issued and then you can criticise him fairly?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068644#Comment_119068644

Oh stop would you Andrew, just stop ffs. I'm worse myself for engaging with you when you're like this.

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068660#Comment_119068660

Lol I wrote and deleted two different replies 😆

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068644#Comment_119068644

Not sure of your experience with the Irish legal system and how it reacts to such things but I have had a Bus Eireann driver admitting on camera to trying to hit me, that it was intentional and I couldn't even get them to do anything but take a statement. An admission of guilt on camera, time/date, company vehicle and so on. That wasn't enough to even spark a bit of interest. The UK seems to have a far easier system and if we had a similar one here I might actually throw a few videos in while I am answering emails over coffee but its not possible here. You can criticise him fairly without having done the same yourself, it is nonsense to imply otherwise. He is a content creator, I imagine he would take such criticism better than you seem to be. I imagine he now knows that such behaviour drives traffic (pardon the pun) and contributes towards revenue, clicks etc. Fair play to him, the man has found a job he is good at, he is passionate about and keeps his head above water, he is lucky in that regard. I don't like his content myself as it grates a bit but obviously lots of people do.

Paddigol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119068591#Comment_119068591

Do you cycle just to police the roads too? What's your style? Where's the link to your social media page? Is your opinion more valuable than anyone else's on here? Why do you keep suggesting that people who don't agree with your opinion of this lad shouldn't post their criticisms here?

DaveyDave

Considering we have basically zero road policing we really should have a system in place to report offences online. Then again why bother if Gardai don't even take traffic watch reports seriously...

Cabaal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119069978#Comment_119069978

Mikey is generally commuting, he spots these idiots on his way home most of the time.

I'd rather dangerous people are fined, pointed or put off the road rather then remain on the road. I don't care who does it or how.

Unless you think unsafe drivers should go unnoticed and unpunished?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119069978#Comment_119069978

Too? Who is cycling “just to police roads “?

And where exactly did I suggest that people shouldn’t post their criticisms here?

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119070873#Comment_119070873

yes of course. That's the overwhelming majority of people on heres augmentt - that unsafe drivers should be let off...

🙄

Seriously.. where on earth did you pull that sweeping statement from? :D

Cabaal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119071012#Comment_119071012

I"m still not seeing the issue, if he decides to go out for a spin just to catch idiots on phones why exactly would that be a problem?

They shouldn't be on the phones to begin with, its easy for them to not get fined/pointed.

CramCycle

I'm more surprised at how much people here care, I don't watch his videos as they grate on my nerves a bit. If they annoy you, stop, if they don't great. He is only a danger to himself as far as I can tell, nothing he does, to the best of my memory has endangered others.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119071661#Comment_119071661

How do you know where he's going or what he's doing? Do you have access to his diary or what?

People are indeed absolutely allowed not to like him. As noted above, the most obvious action for those people is not to watch his videos.

People are indeed allowed to watch his videos AND complain about him, just as others are allowed complain about the complaining.

To me, the complaining is real 'hurler on the ditch' stuff, people who've never considered reporting a driver or engaging with a driver, people who think cyclists should keep their head down and tug their forelock and say thanks to the nice motorist for not killing them today. It reminds me a bit of the tone policing evident during the real campaign, all the old men telling the young women they had to be nicer to the men who wanted to control their bodies, be more reasonable, not be obstreperous. We all know how that worked out.

He does what he does. I don't like everything he does, every sentence, every gesture, every quip. But I do know that he's made a vastly greater contribution to road safety than his entire army of critics put together.

km991148

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119072377#Comment_119072377

Lol you've some attitude and your black and white "tug the forelock" rhetoric that you keep spouting is really telling.

It will absolutely place a ceiling on your ability to become a better road user.

I'd also point out that if these assumptions were in anyway directed at me then you would be completely wide of the mark.

I have reported, I will continue to do so, I'm a pretty strong and assertive cyclist (and driver), you just won't see me going on about it... And if you allow your dog to deliberately crap on my lawn you wouldn't be getting another chance 😆

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119072529#Comment_119072529

But you'll keep giving drivers another chance, for some strange reason.