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Anyone got any experience of using BidX1 Ireland?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭piston


    They've uploaded a load of legal documents and letters. I'm not an expert at reading legal stuff but it appears that the house is in receivership and has been repossessed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    piston wrote: »
    They've uploaded a load of legal documents and letters. I'm not an expert at reading legal stuff but it appears that the house is in receivership and has been repossessed.

    That is the case with the majority of the properties on Bidx1. It may be back on the market because the purchaser couldn't complete. It may be that some legal issue arose forcing the sale to abort. Bidx1 is not for widows and orphans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Dontfadeaway


    They uploaded the legal documents. It says the property is landlocked. I would guess that is why it is back for auction again.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Does anyone know the background in regards to where Bidx1 get their properties? I know most are bank sales, repossessions from 'the good days', but it's near 10 years on now and still they have huge amounts of properties at auction, consistently. Will they ever dry up? Or are they here for many, many more years to come?

    I do see they have a private treaty part on the website now, too. Not a lot on it, but good prices achieved, all the same, it would seem, for anything they have sold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    Does anyone know the background in regards to where Bidx1 get their properties? I know most are bank sales, repossessions from 'the good days', but it's near 10 years on now and still they have huge amounts of properties at auction, consistently. Will they ever dry up? Or are they here for many, many more years to come?

    I do see they have a private treaty part on the website now, too. Not a lot on it, but good prices achieved, all the same, it would seem, for anything they have sold.

    There are thousands of properties in receivership and only getting to market now.

    One I bought last year went into receivership in 2016

    Most are investment properties. Most of the residential ones were originally purchased 2005-2008 and inflated prices were paid.
    A fair few have sitting tenants and some are paying substantially under the market rent.

    Once a receiver has the legals ready they want to be rid of the property, hence auction is the best route. Usually 14-28 days to complete the sale with only a little leeway.

    All legals are uploaded, so you can do plenty of checks beforehand.

    But just like any auction, you do have risk.

    Other sellers can be investors who just want to sell quickly and you also see some executor sales. Some good properties get very strong prices - just like the auctions 15-20 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    If you but a property with tenants in situ (paying rent under market rate), you probably buy a world of hurt in getting them out to allow for refurbishment, etc and rental at market price :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Interested in a property at the amv price but I think it is on the low side to get people interested so just not going to waste E125 to see property to go miles over amv price .Can i view auction results or the auction prices as they proceed to just get the feel and if not sold I could get it at amv price never done anything like this but i know the property



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You can, or certainly you used to be able to watch bids in real time, but you cannot participate in the bidding. This is a double edged sword, if the bidding goes way above what you are willing to pay, you saved €125, if it sells for near AMV, you may be kicking yourself that you lost the property for the sake of the €125. Whether they would accept a bid after the auction is difficult to know, if the property is priced low to generate interest, they may be inclined to relist again at a later date.

    To be honest, if you aren't willing to spend €125, you have no place at an auction. If you were interested, you should have engaged a solicitor to check the Pack and a surveyor to check the property, which involves more outlay than the €125 auction registration fee. Once your bid is accepted on the day of the auction, the property is yours, warts and all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I am interested ,my sister owned same house 4 doors down ,I bid on same house 6 doors down this year and it was sold 5k less then amv of this house but I have a few more quid since so it by no means is cheap as well it has sitting tenants what is a surveyor or a solicitor going to tell me that I already dont know as well there was no viewing allowed of this house so I am going to hold fire



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    When a property is being sold at auction, it comes with a pack that includes extremely important details about the title (or lack thereof) etc which is essential reading prior to bidding. Unless you are a solicitor and a surveyor yourself, the information received may well save you from buying a property which is unmortgagable/unsellable or one which has structural defects which will cost you a fortune to repair.

    Do you know anything about the title, who is selling it, is it a Receiver sale (very important as Receivers are exempted from checking certain particulars about the property) are there any boundary issues, do the tenants have a term lease, are they paying rent, how long are they there and how much notice will you have to give, what is the plumbing/heating/electrics/insulation like etc? the list is long and without professional opinions you are exposed once your bid is accepted. When registering to bid you have to give the auction house a significant deposit, if your bid is accepted and you find out you can't get a mortgage/sell later because of a problem you didn't bother checking out, you lose that deposit and have no way of recovering it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,650 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    if it has sitting tenants, I wouldn't bother looking at it. The bank wont approve a mortgage drawdown if it s not vacant. The tenants may be paying a lower rent that you can not increase, they may not be paying at all, and so on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    DO you know if there is any issue with a family home declaration? Do you know if there is any boundary dispute? Do you know the length of the lease the current tenants have?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Well I found out it was a bank sale of a buy to let and the current lease finishes at year end so I took a chance at buying at amv and got it .It was all last minute but happy with my purchase so far but solicitor has to check title but I reckon it is A1



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    When the lease ends isn’t the important part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Yeah, the lease ending can be null and void in a lot of cases, what's important is how long have the current tenant being living there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    Tenant may have rights to a new lease. But if they are paying a reasonable amount and good tenants, it may be best to keep them.


    You will find that you will get very little leeway on the stated closing date. Usually 3-4 weeks.

    I definitely would have had a solicitor look at documents before bidding.


    But sometimes it's worth a gamble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Would you buy and pay for a second hand car, before checking if there is finance owed or having a mechanic look at it?

    It is easy be happy. Ignorance is bliss, but you have no idea what you have bought yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭cml387


    Is it absolutely a fact that a mortgage won't be arranged on the purchase of a house with a sitting tenant?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Don't see any real discount compared to regular market, judging by recent sales



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 players87


    Hi I would like to buy a house at Bidx1 but do you know a good and one that is ok from the price solicitor to check the title. I got offers only check the title for 1000€.


    Thanks



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