General race thread 2021 **spoilers**

Macy0161

Obviously assumes no performance clauses in Froomes contract. Only watched the highlights this morning, but was surprised how early he was tailed off. At that point, it was looking like a sprint!

retalivity

Roche didn't sign on for the TT today

EDIT: Dan losing a minute to a lot of the other GC guys

dastardly00

Nico was deemed a close contact to a staff member who tested positive for Covid-19

https://twitter.com/TeamDSM/status/1374332169598947335

breezy1985

Serious list of sprinters in Brussels-De Panne today.
Sam Bennett, Fernando Gaviria, Pascal Ackermann and Arnaud Demare along with Andre Greipel, Elia Viviani, Giacomo Nizzolo, Nacer Bouhanni, Jasper Philipsen and Sonny Colbrelli.

dastardly00

The finish at the Tour de Catalunya today should be exciting also - 11 km categorised climb up to the summit at 2,125 m. Hopefully Dan can put in a good performance. And it will be interesting to see who from Ineos will come out on top... Porte, Carapaz, Adam Yates or Thomas

retalivity

Paris-Roubaix 2021 cancelled according to L'Equipe

De Bhál

breezy1985 wrote: »

Serious list of sprinters in Brussels-De Panne today.
Sam Bennett, Fernando Gaviria, Pascal Ackermann and Arnaud Demare along with Andre Greipel, Elia Viviani, Giacomo Nizzolo, Nacer Bouhanni, Jasper Philipsen and Sonny Colbrelli.

Into final 5k - big sprint coming up

retalivity

Kicking off in volta catalunya as well, old man valverde away up the road

De Bhál

textbook

dastardly00

Nice one Sam

De Bhál

nearly thought Morkov was leaving it too late to get out of the way

breezy1985

breezy1985 wrote: »

Serious list of sprinters in Brussels-De Panne today.
Sam Bennett, Fernando Gaviria, Pascal Ackermann and Arnaud Demare along with Andre Greipel, Elia Viviani, Giacomo Nizzolo, Nacer Bouhanni, Jasper Philipsen and Sonny Colbrelli.

Sorry Brugge not Brussels. Doesn't matter either way Sam took it easy in the end despite a nervy few seconds where it looked like he was stuck behind his lead out.

Busy run in for the commissars too as there was riders on paths all over the place

dastardly00

Very impressive so far from Adam Yates

dastardly00

Good performance from Dan - 8th, only 36 seconds behind Yates.

EDIT - it seems that it was Dan's team mate Mike Woods who was 8th

retalivity

Didn't realise the ridiculous team Ineos have in Catalunya - Yates, Thomas, Porte, Carapaz & Dennis

mr spuckler

De Bhál wrote: »

nearly thought Morkov was leaving it too late to get out of the way

He said there was a headwind in the final so waited as long as possible to start his sprint.

Funny comment as well from him again referencing the fact that he only focuses on his own sprint, doesn't worry what anyone else is doing.

Video of finale below.

https://twitter.com/sporza_koers/status/1374748906953842690

His first world tour one day race win I think he said too at the finish.

Macy0161

Hopefully he can retain the form for Sunday and get over the Kemmelberg!

dastardly00

[Deleted User] wrote: »

His first world tour one day race win I think he said too at the finish.

I heard the commentary team say that as well and I thought that surely they were wrong... but come to think about it, there are not that many World Tour level one-day races that suit out-and-out sprinters.

37 starts -
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?xseason=&sort=rnk&race=&km1=&zkm1=&pkm1=equal&limit=100&offset=0&topx=&ztopx=&ptopx=smallerorequal&type=8&continent=&pnts=&zpnts=&ppnts=equal&level=wt&rnk=&zrnk=&prnk=equal&exclude_tt=0&exclude_tt=1&racedate=&zracedate=&pracedate=equal&filter=Filter&id=sam-bennett&p=results

breezy1985

dastardly00 wrote: »

I heard the commentary team say that as well and I thought that surely they were wrong... but come to think about it, there are not that many World Tour level one-day races that suit out-and-out sprinters.

37 starts -
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider.php?xseason=&sort=rnk&race=&km1=&zkm1=&pkm1=equal&limit=100&offset=0&topx=&ztopx=&ptopx=smallerorequal&type=8&continent=&pnts=&zpnts=&ppnts=equal&level=wt&rnk=&zrnk=&prnk=equal&exclude_tt=0&exclude_tt=1&racedate=&zracedate=&pracedate=equal&filter=Filter&id=sam-bennett&p=results

Would have been pulling for Sagan for a fair few as well I assume

CrowdedHouse

Poor aul Eddie in the wars again

https://twitter.com/sticky_bottle/status/1374762096693542914?s=20

Dodge

[Deleted User] wrote: »

His first world tour one day race win I think he said too at the finish.

Defo his first ever world tour win (not stage). Since the introduction of the world tour Dan Martin is the only Irish cyclist to win one. The last being Lombardy in 2015

at1withmyself

You could easily mixed it up with Froome too 😉

dastardly00 wrote: »

Good performance from Dan - 8th, only 36 seconds behind Yates.

EDIT - it seems that it was Dan's team mate Mike Woods who was 8th

retalivity

at1withmyself wrote: »

You could easily mixed it up with Froome too ��

45	 MARTIN Dan	Israel Start-Up Nation			4:45
46	 DOMBROWSKI Joe	UAE-Team Emirates			4:55
47	 ZWIEHOFF Ben	BORA - hansgrohe			5:15
48	 NYCH Artem	Gazprom - RusVelo			5:19
49	 VALTER Attila	Groupama - FDJ				5:34
50	 BRITTON Rob	Rally Cycling				5:43
51	 FROOME Chris	Israel Start-Up Nation			,,

Dan only finished 1min ahead of Froome which is surprising as Froome sat up with 10km to go

mr spuckler

The overhead of Sam's win today is even better - the gap was huge compared to how it looked from the other angle!

https://twitter.com/Cyclingtimenews/status/1374788984061186056

breezy1985

mr spuckler wrote: »

The overhead of Sam's win today is even better - the gap was huge compared to how it looked from the other angle!

https://twitter.com/Cyclingtimenews/status/1374788984061186056

Some distance between him and that lad Bora bet their chips on

dahat

Ackerman has been really disappointing for me this year, looks well off the pace & has failed to quicken in any sprint he has been led into.

Viviani and Gavaria look even worse. One hasn't won a race since 2019 the other a credible one since the 2019 Giro. Morkov finished 8th ahead of Vivani today in 8th place despite having sat up to celebrate before Sam even crossed the line.

EDIT: If Sam doesn't re-sign with DQS he should retire because life after them as a sprinter doesn't look good.

dublin49

I saw a list recently of the top 20 earners in peleton and Sam wasnt on it and Vivani was.Could this be correct or do they just not know what hes on?

dastardly00

dublin49 wrote: »

I saw a list recently of the top 20 earners in peleton and Sam wasnt on it and Vivani was.Could this be correct or do they just not know what hes on?

It's hard to know how accurate these lists are. But I'm not surprised Sam isn't on it because (i) Sam wanted to leave Bora so negotiating a super high wage might not have been his top priority; (ii) Patrick Lefevere is known for not paying his rider's the highest salaries amongst the peloton; and (iii) Sam was unproven on the very biggest stage (i.e. Tour de France) before signing for DQS.

That salary list is for basic pay, but I'm assume Sam has a very good win bonus clause in his contract And he'll probably be in the top-20 list when his next contract is renewed.

Viviani's salary is probably so high because when he signed a contract to join Cofidis, he coming on the back of winning stages in all three Grand Tours when he was with DQS. His next contract will probably be a fraction of his current salary. It's a similar story with Gaviria. He had great results with Quick-Step and then he signed for UAE for big bucks.

breezy1985

dublin49 wrote: »

I saw a list recently of the top 20 earners in peleton and Sam wasnt on it and Vivani was.Could this be correct or do they just not know what hes on?

Riders usually get paid well only after having big results which is why there is a pattern of riders smashing it at the frugal DQS then leaving for the money only to flop

Macy0161

Deleted User wrote: »

Viviani and Gavaria look even worse. One hasn't won a race since 2019 the other a credible one since the 2019 Giro. Morkov finished 8th ahead of Vivani today in 8th place despite having sat up to celebrate before Sam even crossed the line.

EDIT: If Sam doesn't re-sign with DQS he should retire because life after them as a sprinter doesn't look good.

Notwithstanding no sprinter gets better results after leaving DQS, in fairness both have had health issues - Gaviria got Covid twice last year, and Viviani heart problems (on top of not even being able to train on his balcony at one point last year).

Definitely seems to be a choice of DQS and Morkov and winning, or big bucks. But I guess they're professional.

TheBlaaMan

Following on from yesterdays mens race, the OXYCLEAN CLASSIC WOMENS BRUGGE-DE PANNE is on at the moment. The new Plantur-Pura team comprised of cyclo-cross World Champions Carmen Alvarado and Sanne Cant along with Yara Kastelijn and Inge van der Heijden is taking part. Also part of this team for a limited road season are Mannon Bakker, Aniek van Alphen and Annemarie Worst - quite a team and a combination of CX adversaries put together by the Roodhoft brothers who run MvDP's Alpecin-Fenix team (as well as most of world cyclocross....). It will be interesting to see how they do on the road

dastardly00

17 km remaining in Stage 4 of the Tour de Catalunya.
Leonard Kamna is out front but he's being caught at a rate of knots.
The peloton is starting to get whittled down... Froome, Soler and Hirschi all dropped.

De Bhál

Carlton is pure Alan Partridge

Looks like Dan Martin has been dropped. I seen Michael Woods but no Martin.

dastardly00

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks like Dan Martin has been dropped. I seen Michael Woods but no Martin.

Yeah Dan was dropped a while ago. I presume he is still recovering from that illness he had a few weeks ago. If he had good fitness and form you would expect him to still be in that group.

dastardly00

Good attack from Chaves... as opposed to the attempt from Kruijswijk :pac:

dastardly00

Cycling teams winning two different races in the same day seems to be a quite common occurrence at the moment! It happened for both Jumbo-Visma and DQS at Paris-Nice/Tirreno Adriatico a few weeks ago, and then Trek did it last weekend. Now Bike Exchange have done it today with Chaves in Catalunya and Grace Brown at Brugge-De Panne!

MangleBadger

Ineos filling out the podium in Catalunya
1. Yates
2. Porte
3. Thomas

Genuinely delighted to see how Chavez is riding this week. Hard man not to like.

I see Archbold finished in second place in Italy today.

breezy1985

MangleBadger wrote: »

Ineos filling out the podium in Catalunya
1. Yates
2. Porte
3. Thomas

A good way to deflect attention away from the huge doping scandal hanging over them

Dodge

De Bhál wrote: »

Carlton is pure Alan Partridge

Watched the last 10k with my daughter today. “Why is he always laughing at his own cringe?! Is he embarrassed”

velo.2010

Dodge wrote: »

Watched the last 10k with my daughter today. “Why is he always laughing at his own cringe?! Is he embarrassed”

He's getting worse nowadays. He'll make a sure-fire point about something, be corrected by Brian Smith, then insist that is what he meant all along.

retalivity

Someone please find me the clip of Brian Smith snapping at Carlton live on commentary from a few years ago, it appears to have been removed from youtube

Daroxtar

velo.2010 wrote: »

He's getting worse nowadays. He'll make a sure-fire point about something, be corrected by Brian Smith, then insist that is what he meant all along.

After listening to Rob Hatch climb up his own hole on a crusade of righteousness last year, I'd gladly put up with Carlton's waffling

CrowdedHouse

On a related note, has anyone been able to select Ambient Sound only on the app? I tick it but still seem to get the English commentary - I can't stand them.

velo.2010

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

On a related note, has anyone been able to select Ambient Sound only on the app? I tick it but still seem to get the English commentary - I can't stand them.

If you have the regular ES subscription, then you can go to eurosport.co.uk for ad-free and commentary free live coverage.

CrowdedHouse

velo.2010 wrote: »

If you have the regular ES subscription, then you can go to eurosport.co.uk for ad-free and commentary free live coverage.

I tried that but it wouldn't cast for me for some reason, just got a blue cast symbol on the TV.

velo.2010

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

I tried that but it wouldn't cast for me for some reason, just got a blue cast symbol on the TV.

Ah ok, I usually just watch on the laptop or phone. I gave up on the ES player because of the constant buffering.