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General race thread 2021 **spoilers**

  • 25-02-2021 9:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭


    Race thread for any races that don't have race or stage specific threads.

    Anything from World Tour down to amateur welcome. No 24hr spoiler needed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Excellent. Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Pog extended his lead with a few bonus points today after coming second to Vingegaard it LJV on the stage.

    I'm sure we will hear all about what a disappointing day it was for Bennett in the Irish papers later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Oymyakon


    Another monster performance from Morkov and Bennett. Easily done in the end. Dekker, Ewan and Viviani depserately fighting for Sam's wheel.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Dekker is fairly confident coming up with Caleb Ewan but an epic result again for our man Sam, a full bike length again.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Good stuff from Sam. Morkov is some leadout man.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭cunavalos


    And the win has helped Sam move up to 103rd on GC


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    cunavalos wrote: »
    And the win has helped Sam move up to 103rd on GC

    RTE headline: Bennett loses out on top 100 place in tour despite crossing the line first :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Bit late to the party and ive criticised the middle eastern racing before, but there is something beautiful about the long stretches of straight pristine road in the middle of the desert.
    And that climb to Jebel Jais or whatever it was called the last day looks savage, didnt think there was any climbs of that size near Dubai


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Oymyakon wrote: »
    Another monster performance from Morkov and Bennett. Easily done in the end. Dekker, Ewan and Viviani depserately fighting for Sam's wheel.

    The two wins this week, and especially the one today, show a real maturity in Sam's racing. He didn't even try and hit the front today until the very last second. Even two years ago he would probably not have had the patience or confidence to do that and would have gone earlier. Should be a good GT year for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,131 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    mewso wrote: »
    Good stuff from Sam. Morkov is some leadout man.

    I love watching back in slow motion seeing how it unfolds. Morkov has such a calm and confident demeanour. He is the best leadout rider for years by a country mile. Whats even better is, as Sam eluded to, they are really gelling now. The tension in those finales must be crazy yet you often see Morkov look back, ease a fraction and move slightly to ensure Sam is in the perfect potion, even with everything going on to still know to let Sam go the sheltered side and do a little blocking to the other sprinters is a thing of beauty!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭sy


    Class finish, bet Bora are a little sick after these two wins. As pointed out by Bambaata, it was a real lesson in how to sprint. Positioning was perfect, Sam going on the sheltered inside, Morkov easing up making the others come around him on the windy side. His cool glance back near the finish to check if Sam had his wheel was so cool and calculating. Great to see Viviani coming back after his recent heart surgery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Finnrocco


    Awful finish surface though, hate cycling on those "cobbles"


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Look at the gap he managed in those two wins as well, coming out of the group and making over a bike length over such a short distance with enough comfort to raise your hand before the line. It is fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭happytramp


    Just watched that... A real throwback to the way kittel used to win... Just opened up with such power that nobody even came close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭a_squirrelman


    Really nice, he's on fire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭MangleBadger


    Bambaata wrote: »
    I love watching back in slow motion seeing how it unfolds. Morkov has such a calm and confident demeanour. He is the best leadout rider for years by a country mile. Whats even better is, as Sam eluded to, they are really gelling now. The tension in those finales must be crazy yet you often see Morkov look back, ease a fraction and move slightly to ensure Sam is in the perfect potion, even with everything going on to still know to let Sam go the sheltered side and do a little blocking to the other sprinters is a thing of beauty!

    MY heart was going just watching it on my laptop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    It looked to me me as if Viviani was going for 2nd place from the start of the sprint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I know its been a good few months now but I still get confused watching sprints because I keep expecting Sam and Mick to not be in team kits


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Raymzor


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    I know its been a good few months now but I still get confused watching sprints because I keep expecting Sam and Mick to not be in team kits

    Good thread. At least Sam is less obvious to the others in the bunch. I miss seeing the a national jersey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Even when Sam doesn't win DQS can't stop winning. Ballerini took Omloop.

    In the women's race Anna VDB was again brilliant


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  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    She's something else to watch when she's away like that, like it's absolutely nothing in terms of effort for her and perfectly still on the bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    She's something else to watch when she's away like that, like it's absolutely nothing in terms of effort for her and perfectly still on the bike.


    That clip from the worlds is one of the greatest ever shots of a cyclist




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    KBK on now. Van der Poel only attacked 85km from the finish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    velo.2010 wrote: »
    KBK on now. Van der Poel only attacked 85km from the finish!

    I just turned it on here. He is one of the best but no way he can pull this off...is there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    De Bhál wrote: »
    I just turned it on here. He is one of the best but no way he can pull this off...is there
    I think he said he was doing a job for his sprinter teamamate today... softening up the opposition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    Victor Campenaerts has his bars and shifter hoods turned in so much that they're almost acting like TT bar extensions. I can foresee the UCI having a look at any attempt to undermine their new rules on forearms on the bars/grabbing the computer etc.


  • Posts: 109 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    velo.2010 wrote: »
    I think he said he was doing a job for his sprinter teamamate today... softening up the opposition?

    I think so, and using it as a training. He's missed 6 days racing this week in the Emirates. If he doesn't pull it off they've still got Merlier. Losing KBK won't keep him awake at night.


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lucky escape with the dog there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    I'm watching this on eurosport as my GCN racepass app doesn't seem to be working.

    Anyone else's working?

    I assume I'm doing something wrong but I find it not the best user experience moving around in app.


    Edit. App has a message now from GCN saying there's issues


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,661 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    As an aside, the GCN 19.99 offer for the year that ends today, is that UK only?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    no, i got it for 20 euro.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan



    Glad I kept my Eurosport Player access............cos the €20 I paid for GCN+ is F/A use this afternoon.

    Anyone who cant see is missing a great race. Sorry.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    Spring racing as it should be.
    Marvellous.


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Adam Blythe was superb on commentary today. I've heard him on ES before but today Adam was excellent, someone with current knowledge and calling stuff Hatch would never see in a month of Sundays and had real confidence for someone who isn't a professional journalist. He can talk ****e too but when the race is on he's brilliant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    Adam Blythe was superb on commentary today. I've heard him on ES before but today Adam was excellent, someone with current knowledge and calling stuff Hatch would never see in a month of Sundays and had real confidence for someone who isn't a professional journalist. He can talk ****e too but when the race is on he's brilliant.

    Blythe is very good for his insight of tactics and knowledge of the courses - it might just save his bacon because it has to keep apologising for forgetting team names and riders names (perhaps excusable...) :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭devonp


    tmrw Tues 2nd


    Rory Townsend down to ride for Canyon DHB Sungod ?





    https://www.lesamyn.be/category/2021/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Adam Blythe was superb on commentary today. I've heard him on ES before but today Adam was excellent, someone with current knowledge and calling stuff Hatch would never see in a month of Sundays and had real confidence for someone who isn't a professional journalist. He can talk ****e too but when the race is on he's brilliant.

    Thought Blythe was great on commentary, very knowledgable and nice to hear from a recent pro who knows the peloton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    Le Samyn

    2.5 km to go

    Van Der Poel in the reckoning here for a win with about 5 others - bunch about 6 seconds behind.




    Win for VDP's team mate Tim Merlier


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Was watching earlier and got distracted with a the kids, came back and not a single DQS rider to be seen at the finish:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Finnrocco


    Did you see Van Dr Poels handlebar snapped, didn't see him crash so not sure how it happened, seem to only occur in last k?

    It looked like he was thinking of galloping but obviously thought better of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Finnrocco


    Cavendish was in the front group, but was too far back starting gallop so had no chance of doing anything.

    Was a real good chance for him to get a result


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Strade Bianche this weekend, one of my favourite races.

    Looking forward to seeing how Tom Piddock gets on, he’s been really impressive this week, even if he does look like a school boy on the bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    griffin100 wrote: »
    Strade Bianche this weekend, one of my favourite races.

    Looking forward to seeing how Tom Piddock gets on, he’s been really impressive this week, even if he does look like a school boy on the bike.

    Mine too.
    I hope it rains, that would make it perfect.


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hopefully this year they join the coverage earlier than they have done in previous years. Not a Eurosport/GNC decision it's been down to the host broadcaster. So much had already happened when we got live images last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    Finnrocco wrote: »
    Did you see Van Dr Poels handlebar snapped, didn't see him crash so not sure how it happened, seem to only occur in last k?

    It looked like he was thinking of galloping but obviously thought better of it

    Zooming in on the image of the broken bars at the finish, it looks like the shifter clamp has crushed the carbon and its broken off at that point.

    Thought Cavendish might be up the sprint, but he's still not quite there yet. Not a bad race from him though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Zooming in on the image of the broken bars at the finish, it looks like the shifter clamp has crushed the carbon and its broken off at that point.

    Thought Cavendish might be up the sprint, but he's still not quite there yet. Not a bad race from him though.


    He will never again be there. He was nowhere today against 5th rate sprinters


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭griffin100


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    He will never again be there. He was nowhere today against 5th rate sprinters

    It’s a final season for a sprinter who when he was in his prime was in a different league to every sprinter in today’s peloton. You have to wounder why DQS signed him.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    He will never again be there. He was nowhere today against 5th rate sprinters
    griffin100 wrote: »
    You have to wonder why DQS signed him.

    They didn't sign Cavendish the sprinter of ten years ago. They signed the Cavendish who rode in the break all day at Gent - Wevelgem and the Scheldeprijs last year.

    And Cavendish did what he was supposed to do yesterday, which was be a team player. He was up there right to the end, covering moves. That's how Quick Step usually approach these races. They maximise their chances of winning by playing the most cards. It didn't come off for Cav yesterday, but equally it didn't come off for any of their other eggs in the basket such as Senechal.

    Considering his contract cost them nothing, I'd say it was a pretty good piece of business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,225 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    griffin100 wrote: »
    It’s a final season for a sprinter who when he was in his prime was in a different league to every sprinter in today’s peloton. You have to wounder why DQS signed him.


    He was practically free and Vermarc and Specialised are probably happy to see him there for the UK market. Not a hope he will be contesting for anything though


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