Smother

dastardly00

Seathrun66 wrote: »

As predicted, Frank gets his turn as a suspect. Almost certainly means it isn't him and then the focus turns to Val or Anna? Or does it end up with a show full of red herrings and the conclusion is suicide?

We saw someone shoving Denis off the cliff in the first episode so it can't be suicide

Galwayguy35

That young wan would want to run a mile from Callum, he sounds like a serial killer in the making.

Was kinda funny the lot of them having a full on conversation in the car when Jenny was about to pop out the kid.

Seathrun66

dastardly00 wrote: »

We saw someone shoving Denis off the cliff in the first episode so it can't be suicide

Ach, of course.

And what if no conclusion but then they announce a second series in the way that Bloodlands did? Viewing figures would justify it - 450k for the first episode.

saabsaab

Seathrun66 wrote: »

As predicted, Frank gets his turn as a suspect. Almost certainly means it isn't him and then the focus turns to Val or Anna? Or does it end up with a show full of red herrings and the conclusion is suicide?

Considering where we are in the world a cliffhanger is very much on?

saabsaab

Is Frawley's re-opened?

Snorlaxx

Its starting to drag on me now, we're no closer to finding out who murdered the dad etc

Xander10

how many episodes will there be? watched 3, trying to decide whether to watch the 4th and avoid any spoilers

Snorlaxx

Xander10 wrote: »

how many episodes will there be? watched 3, trying to decide whether to watch the 4th and avoid any spoilers

Well I just saw an ad on RTE that said last in the series this coming sunday, so you might aswell watch this weeks one

Final episode this week.

beertons

Would it be the science teacher? Back to the first suspect, after what was said out the front of the house.

I'm going to guess that it's Elaine, she seems to appear everywhere but has never been suspected. I'm hoping that it's one of the main characters and they don't pull some obscure character that we aren't familiar with, I presume Jacob too young to be considered, I'm really enjoying it ,fingers crossed for a good ending.

qwerty13

That could be a good call Duvet! Didn’t the mother say something in the restaurant about the dark haired one running to her Dad to sort out anything she didn’t want to get her hands dirty with. Maybe the Dad got beanie hat out of the picture about the kids.

Beanie hat lol.

siblers

It's almost impossible to try guess who did it as everyone (bar the wife) seems to have some motive to do it

My punt is that it was the guy with the tumor or his wife to get the inheritance

My wild shot punt is that it was the one in the cafe

It'll probably end up being the wife now

The argument in the restaurant between Val and her friend was strange imo , the strangest part was that she tore into the friend and then just took the key's and her car, she's another one that's always in the background but not suspected. I thought they'd find something significant while going through the old photos , could be anyone and only one episode remaining.

Fine Cheers

That's Mairead who is Val's sister.

Is there any chance that he is the baby's father/ donor ?

Fine Cheers

Who is - the killer ??

thesandeman

Fine Cheers wrote: »

Who is - the killer ??

Have they a butler?

The_Dave

Usually in things like this the main actor did it, i.e. Carl. If it was any of the lad with the tumour's family he could take the hit and say it was him as he won't make it to trial let alone jail

Fitz*

The_Dave wrote: »

Usually in things like this the main actor did it, i.e. Carl. If it was any of the lad with the tumour's family he could take the hit and say it was him as he won't make it to trial let alone jail

That's actually a good theory. That Callum pushed Dennis off the cliff, thinking it was his Dad with the jacket mix up. But now his Dad will end up taking the fall for it to save his son from jail.

Declan A Walsh

I have been reading through this thread and enjoying some of the comments.

For what it's worth, overall I have been enjoying this - a combination of the scenery and the whodunnit element. I do have some misgivings about all the different sub-plots and some of the acting, but I might as well stick with it to the end at this stage.

Seathrun66

siblers wrote: »

It's almost impossible to try guess who did it as everyone (bar the wife) seems to have some motive to do it

My punt is that it was the guy with the tumor or his wife to get the inheritance

My wild shot punt is that it was the one in the cafe

It'll probably end up being the wife now

The wife very much had motivation to kill him. Bad property deals that jeopardised ownership of the family home. Pushing Grace to have an abortion and unsettling her mentally as well as trying to sell the cafe without notifying her. Getting Jenny to invest in his dodgy deal (though unsure if she was aware at the time). Having several affairs. And maybe more to be revealed on Sunday. She was my main suspect from the start as I think she feigned ignorance of the extent of the deals when she conveniently found information in the drawer when Frank was present.

My money is still on Val.

take everything

I'm loving the nicknames for the characters in this thread

MfMan

Fine Cheers wrote: »

That's Mairead who is Val's sister.

Could be her alright. She doesn't appear to be there for much reason in the series, only background support, nor does she have a motive that we know of. Something could come to light yet about her.

iamwhoiam

I am hoping its the dark haired very very intense sister . Inexplicably I disliked her from day one .

The_Dave

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I am hoping its the dark haired very very intense sister . Inexplicably I disliked her from day one .

For all the strong women the 3 sisters are, or appear to be, not one of them have told Val to f**k off when she's interrogating them

Flippyfloppy

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My money is still on Val.[/quote]

Is there any reason the show is called smother? She's smothering, s-mother...

Purple Mountain

My money is on Rob (Grace's ex).
I'm waging he found out that Dennis coerced Grace into an abortion (when she came round and broke his window) then took off in a rage to find Dennis and found him on the cliff on the way and a fight ensued.

ETA..sorry, think his name is Joe?
The guy who was in Normal People anyway.

gmisk

Fitz* wrote: »

That's actually a good theory. That Callum pushed Dennis off the cliff, thinking it was his Dad with the jacket mix up. But now his Dad will end up taking the fall for it to save his son from jail.

I would put my money on this as well tbh

Seathrun66

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I am hoping its the dark haired very very intense sister . Inexplicably I disliked her from day one .

Anna. A good shout. She'd be my second favourite, behind Val. Something to be revealed there in the last episode I think.

iamwhoiam

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Anna. A good shout. She'd be my second favourite, behind Val. Something to be revealed there in the last episode I think.

Did she think it was her husband and push him off .He was getting violent and aggressive due to a terminal illness so she was shielding the boys

ax530

If Anna husband dies she loses the boys, she wants him alive until their mother signs the adoption

The_Dave

ax530 wrote: »

If Anna husband dies she loses the boys, she wants him alive until their mother signs the adoption

Bit late, she knows now

freshpopcorn

Purple Mountain wrote: »

My money is on Rob (Grace's ex).
I'm waging he found out that Dennis coerced Grace into an abortion (when she came round and broke his window) then took off in a rage to find Dennis and found him on the cliff on the way and a fight ensued.

He’s the fella that was in Normal People?
He’s my top suspect also.

Seathrun66

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Did she think it was her husband and push him off .He was getting violent and aggressive due to a terminal illness so she was shielding the boys

A good theory I think. And obvious too but I'd not thought of it.

r93kaey5p2izun

Watched this on the Player over the past couple of days. I enjoyed it I have to say, was sceptical from the comments here but it has grabbed by attention and it looks great, very stylish. Nothing award winning, but a worthwhile watch nonetheless. I think Dervla Kiran and Seana Kerslake are great in it.

Fitz* wrote: »

That's actually a good theory. That Callum pushed Dennis off the cliff, thinking it was his Dad with the jacket mix up. But now his Dad will end up taking the fall for it to save his son from jail.

This is what I'd be thinking at the moment too. But hope to be surprised!

Purple Mountain

freshpopcorn wrote: »

He’s the fella that was in Normal People?
He’s my top suspect also.

Yes, he is..
Sorry, I think his name is Joe.

SCOOP 64

How old is Anna? she looks young for her age because she must be at least over 70 the way she dresses.

freshpopcorn

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Yes, he is..
Sorry, I think his name is Joe.

I'm very bad with names in this.
I've the lad from Normal people, the Kirwan one, the one with the bad haircut, lamb guy, Benjamin from Fair City, etc and Carrie Crowley.

Purple Mountain

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'm very bad with names in this.
I've the lad from Normal people, the Kirwan one, the one with the bad haircut, lamb guy, Benjamin from Fair City, etc and Carrie Crowley.

That's basically half the cast

Seathrun66

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

How old is Anna? she looks young for her age because she must be at least over 70 the way she dresses.

That red jumper was particularly fetching last week.

saabsaab

Remember the torch.

Gadgetman496

Whatever about who done it, the opening and closing music is top notch.

It's the live version of the Villagers - Trick of the light.

Seathrun66

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Whatever about who done it, the opening and closing music is top notch.

It's the live version of the Villagers - Trick of the light.

Love it. They've borrowed a trick from The Bridge where a gentle track not appropriate to a murder series was used. Both work really well.

alchemist33

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

How old is Anna? she looks young for her age because she must be at least over 70 the way she dresses.

I think of her as Biddy's daughter.

Purple Mountain

alchemist33 wrote: »

I think of her as Biddy's daughter.

?

alchemist33

Purple Mountain wrote: »

?

Biddy in Glenroe



God, I feel old

Purple Mountain

alchemist33 wrote: »

Biddy in Glenroe



God, I feel old

I thought maybe this actress had been in Glenroe from your comment, sorry!

saabsaab

Glenroe by Agatha Christie.