The One that Got Away

civdef

Tudderone's post about the Webley-Fosbery revolver brought back memories for me - around 2007 I was thinking hard of buying a Webley Mk. VI in .455 from the UK, always wanted one. Put it off for a while, then Dermot Ahern happened.

Any similar missed opportunities?




Yeah the use of a MkVI in 1879 is totally anachronistic but......

cookimonster

A very fine and old Mauser bolt action .22Lr (don't know the model) in the later half of the 1980's. I came across it in Johnny Watts in Glasnevin. Common sense over ruled the heart and I left it there in fear of not getting spare parts or magazines.

Although a lot older and technically wiser now, I don't let common sense or better judgement stop me. Today I buy what makes my heart flutter and puts a big smile on my face. This hasn't let me down so far with most of my collection no longer in production.

solarwinds

I have always wanted an AMP DSR-1, there is just something about it that appeals to me which is very strange considering all my guns wear timber and not a bit of plastic in sight.

tudderone

Nothing as such, i like unusual oddball stuff, single shot rifles, especially falling blocks, Old Irish/British made stuff. The only guns that pass me by, that i really want is stuff i cannot afford. A lovely Holland and Holland .375 bolt action express rifle, stunning, just beyond my pocket, and not having any real reason to own it, not that would ever stop any of us.

clivej

Yes I have as well.
I was in a dealers and saw a nice looking Rigby SxS hammer shotgun, with all the paper work to go with it. They were looking for around €650 for it, this was about 4 years ago.

tudderone

clivej wrote: »

Yes I have as well.
I was in a dealers and saw a nice looking Rigby SxS hammer shotgun, with all the paper work to go with it. They were looking for around €650 for it, this was about 4 years ago.

You should have taken arm and all for that !

otmmyboy2

CZ 75 SP-01



Had one at the importers and was waiting on the serial no to apply and then Ahern screwed that up entirely.

tudderone

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

CZ 75 SP-01



Had one at the importers and was waiting on the serial no to apply and then Ahern screwed that up entirely.

Sickener

otmmyboy2

tudderone wrote: »

Sickener

Totally.
Was fuming at the time.
Glad I got the deposit back though, and promptly got a restricted S/A rifle.
Largely out of spite I must admit. Helped, but didn't quite scratch the 9mm itch all the same.

Feisar

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

Totally.
Was fuming at the time.
Glad I got the deposit back though, and promptly got a restricted S/A rifle.
Largely out of spite I must admit. Helped, but didn't quite scratch the 9mm itch all the same.

There is something tasty looking about those CZ handguns.

tudderone

Feisar wrote: »

There is something tasty looking about those CZ handguns.

The old CZ Kadet looked very similar to that, and were very well made. They did a long barrel version that was lovely. Tried to buy one but they had gone out of production.

The new P07 .22 kadet is nice too.

deeksofdoom

Feisar wrote: »

There is something tasty looking about those CZ handguns.

They sure are.

Grizzly 45

CZ Shadow Mamba. A gun that just fits me naturally.

Grizzly 45

Ones that got away....
A Purdey SXS.

An AMT long slide 45 ACP with the original predator laser, one of the closest replicas of 1985 The Terminator pistol used by Schwarznegger to, almost plug Sarah Connor in the disco scene. close onto 800 usd at the time,as the laser was worth more than the pistol at the time

A genuine Colt AR15, back in the day when they were still a rarity on the US market, before everyone and his dog started making them. 1200 usd at the time

Sly Stallones personal LAR Grizzly 45 Win magnum with the official documentation to prove authenticity and serialised with his birthdate.It was unfortunately deactivated and sold in the UK of a reasonable 1200 STG 15 years ago.
Likewise, Stanley Kubrick's personal HK P7 Deacted and with the original bill of sale and a copy of his UK firearms permit 800stg

The above Shadow Mamba,as the same reason Aherne fukin things up.:mad:

tudderone

Always fancied a Delisle silenced carbine. I suppose you could licence one here after a lot of trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsUALdGog4U

Grizzly 45

There you go!
Although there are better updated versions of the Delisile concept out there now in stronger cals.
http://valkyriearms.com/delisle.html

jb88

Ive been fortunate enough to get 99% of what I wanted provided its legal, even picked up a couple I thought I would never find recently

But if I had to choose a gun I really want, it would have to be a Desert Eagle in .357 magnum in OD Green or any decent original 1911.

Not unless they change the gun laws in Ireland though.

Grizzly 45

Thats the only practical. Desert Eagle ever made too.:)

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Thats the only practical. Desert Eagle ever made too.:)

A lad i went to school with went to the states when he left school and joined the airforce, he was American by birth anyway. But on a trip back he told me he bought a .50 desert eagle. It was as easy as buying a spade in Woodies he reckoned. Had a look at the thing and decided to buy it, flashed his military passes (which exempts you from the waiting period, or did back then) and handed over his credit card, and it was "Have a nice day sir" and out the door. I had six months of wrangling to get a licence for bolt action .22 :mad:.

Grizzly 45

50 AE desert Eagle.."The first crew-served pistol ever built":) A ridiculously heavy and huge handgun,that gives you a 25-degree list to port were you to wear it all day in a shoulder rig.:D Supposedly built for the Israeli special forces...

If you have ever been to Israel or met any Israelis, they are a rather smallish race, who smoke a lot.So their SF lads and lasses toting this yoke about Gaza or the Bekka valley is stretching the imagination a lot.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

50 AE desert Eagle.."The first crew-served pistol ever built":) A ridiculously heavy and huge handgun,that gives you a 25-degree list to port were you to wear it all day in a shoulder rig.:D Supposedly built for the Israeli special forces...

If you have ever been to Israel or met any Israelis, they are a rather smallish race, who smoke a lot.So their SF lads and lasses toting this yoke about Gaza or the Bekka valley is stretching the imagination a lot.

I read they use .22 semi-autos with moderators on them. No fuss, no noise, anyone that says its not enough must be crazy. Half a dozen hollow point .22's in the back of the swede and you are toast.

badaj0z

Have a look at FAUDA on Netflix, very well made and balanced as a perspective on Israeli SF and the Palestinians.

otmmyboy2

tudderone wrote: »

I read they use .22 semi-autos with moderators on them. No fuss, no noise, anyone that says its not enough must be crazy. Half a dozen hollow point .22's in the back of the swede and you are toast.

Integrally suppressed 10/22s did make some appearances at protests in the hands of soldiers doing riot control.

They were reportedly being tried out as more accurate "less lethal" alternatives to pepper balls, rubber bullets, etc.



They stopped the practice shortly thereafter I believe, can't imagine why :rolleyes:

Munsterlad102

otmmyboy2 wrote: »

Integrally suppressed 10/22s did make some appearances at protests in the hands of soldiers doing riot control.

They were reportedly being tried out as more accurate "less lethal" alternatives to pepper balls, rubber bullets, etc.



They stopped the practice shortly thereafter I believe, can't imagine why :rolleyes:

Trust the Israelis to use .22s as less than lethal. That really doesn’t help their reputation.

Grizzly 45

the South African police used to use birdshot for riot control. Bounce it off the road in front of the rioters to take some of the sting out of it.:D

Feisar

Just been looking at a 1967 Colt Python, royal blue finish.
Really need to stop annoying myself.

tudderone

Feisar wrote: »

Just been looking at a 1967 Colt Python, royal blue finish.
Really need to stop annoying myself.

There is or was a few colt pythons here. I did get to handle but not shoot one. Beautifully made but very heavy and very nose heavy. The rib and underbarrel full length lug make it so. The old Colt and Smith and Wesson firms made really high end stuff, especially their revolvers. But Gaston Glock came along in the 80's and upset the applecart.

Feisar

tudderone wrote: »

There is or was a few colt pythons here. I did get to handle but not shoot one. Beautifully made but very heavy and very nose heavy. The rib and underbarrel full length lug make it so. The old Colt and Smith and Wesson firms made really high end stuff, especially their revolvers. But Gaston Glock came along in the 80's and upset the applecart.

I’ve never handled or shot one and wouldn’t be a handgun person at all. For some reason a Python just speaks to me though.

civdef

Would have loved a 586 4"

tudderone

Have a butchers at these then

https://kortharms.com/en/

https://www.all4shooters.com/en/shooting/pistols/janz-german-made-revolvers/

meathstevie

tudderone wrote: »

Have a butchers at these then

https://kortharms.com/en/

https://www.all4shooters.com/en/shooting/pistols/janz-german-made-revolvers/

I thought the guts of five grand for what looks like a high precision 1911 is a lot, then you show us a twenty five grand revolver that didn’t even belong to Custer or Patton or the like.... . I’m sure they shoot and handle quite nicely alright but not thirty times as nice as a Glock 17.

One may dream..

Mellor

tudderone wrote: »

I read they use .22 semi-autos with moderators on them. No fuss, no noise, anyone that says its not enough must be crazy. Half a dozen hollow point .22's in the back of the swede and you are toast.

I think that was their intelligence agency rather than special forces. Take somebody out in a hotel room without waking the room next door. The Berlin aftermath etc.
The CIA were the same. Had a spec made integral silenced pistol for the job.

tudderone

Mellor wrote: »

I think that was their intelligence agency rather than special forces. Take somebody out in a hotel room without waking the room next door. The Berlin aftermath etc.
The CIA were the same. Had a spec made integral silenced pistol for the job.

Yes you are correct, the intelligence rather than the special forces. They like silenced .22's................and Irish passports .

I know the Americans during ww2 used silenced Hi-standard .22 pistols too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pStwXphIwBo

Mellor

Yeah that's the one. Was developed based on CIA requirements for a clandestine pistol. OR to be exact, the OSS as the CIA was then known.

In an effort to gain approval from the highest seat of power – the President – “Wild Bill” Donovan arranged for a demonstration of the [HDM Pistol] in front of FDR. Donovan strolled into the Oval Office while FDR was busy working with his secretary, placed a sand trap on the floor, and fired ten rounds as fast as he could. He then walked over to FDR, handed him the pistol, and explained what he had just done while the President was otherwise occupied.

tudderone

Mellor wrote: »

Yeah that's the one. Was developed based on CIA requirements for a clandestine pistol. OR to be exact, the OSS as the CIA was then known.

Same with Delisle and his silenced carbine, different world to now, if anyone did anything like that there would be a poo-storm.

"In early 1943, he informed Sir Malcolm Campbell, head of the secretive Combined Operations, of his invention, and Campbell suggested an interesting way to demonstrate it – in the open with unsuspecting people around.

From the roof of a building overlooking the River Thames in London, De Lisle fired several shots into the water as people strode by on sidewalks. Campbell watched with interest to see if anyone heard the shots. None did. The weapon found a buyer right then. First, though, there needed to be improvements".

tudderone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwqU6rvCcNs

Grizzly 45

Used also by SF...Probably more so than the big Intell agencies... It was considered very bad sport and still is to be knocking off each other's assets by "termination with extreme prejudice" in the cold war as it left you open to having one of your assets removed in the same manner in the great spy game.;)

However mouthy dissidents are more likely to be done in with interesting poisons delivered by some real interesting and innovative gadgets.:eek:
https://smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1873

BattleCorp

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

50 AE desert Eagle..

Here's my story about my first time firing a pistol.

I was in the States many years ago. A work colleague brought me to a shooting range where I rented a .22lr pistol. I'd never even seen a pistol in real life until then. I got the.22lr because I was used to shooting a .22lr rifle so I thought I'd be ok with that. The pistol was great craic but I got envious when when I saw others shooting bigger, cooler looking guns.

Went back up to the counter and changed it for a 9mm pistol. Went back down and fired away and thought I was the biz. Fcukin Rambo I was. When I ran out of ammo I decided to see if they had an even bigger pistol so I went up and got a Desert Eagle .50. The guy behind the counter asked me if I'd fired one of them before so I did what any young Irish lad would do, I lied. Told him I'd fired it on a few occasions so he gave it to me and off I went down the range.

So, this fcukin yoke was huge. And weighed a tonne. I loaded up and did my best to hold it out straight with one hand but I was wobbling all over the place. Easy to see I hadn't a clue what I was doing. Luckily for me, as I was pointing it towards the target another guy came over to me and he was like "woah bro, you need your two hands on that". Just as well he said it to me before I took a shot because it would have broken my wrist or hit me in the face (or both).

I grabbed it tightly (maybe not tightly enough) with two hands and fired. It rattled every tooth in my head and near sprained my wrists and nearly hit me in the face. I know that makes me sound soft but it was like a cannon going off in my hand. Once I got over the shock, I fired 4 more shots and then handed it back with the rest of the unused ammo to the guy on the counter. I'd had enough.

Great to do it once but I have no hankering to do it ever again.

Scalachi

I had a similar experience firing a .50 at an indoor range in Germany a few years ago.

I only fired one shot, and it was plenty! big, heavy, awkward, too much recoil etc etc, one round was great, delighted to have fired it and still have the shiny nickel case but would not be running to fire one again !

Grizzly 45

Not a big revolver fan, but I would go one of these alright.
Colt Python Hunter model in 357,

Richard308

Munsterlad102 wrote: »

Trust the Israelis to use .22s as less than lethal. That really doesn’t help their reputation.

Plus the fact .22 cal is according to fbi responsible for more gun deaths than any other calibre.

Munsterlad102

Richard308 wrote: »

Plus the fact .22 cal is according to fbi responsible for more gun deaths than any other calibre.

Really? I didn't know that, I would have guessed 9mm but it does make sense, 22lr is the most popular calibre. You'd also have a wide range of firearms chambered in it, so it's just logical that more accidents occur with 22lr then.

tudderone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHVsHmVKGs8

Grizzly 45

And that also how the Luftwaffe ended up with fine Sauer Drillings as survival guns for awhile in WW2. Goering's cronyism with Sauer and just about every arms company was well known. You get a contract off him. Give him some really fancy firearm as thanks, or as bait for a step up.:p

Seems to be a thing with German gun companies. The Shah of Iran ended up with this HK MP5,along with a HK VP0Z that got similar treatment,as he was a big fan of all things German military equipment,and whose remnants can still be seen in the Iranian army today.Both guns disappered in the oveerthrow of the Shah monarchy.

tudderone

Well i know Goering was basically hunting non-stop in Germany and anywhere else he could during the war, while the Luftwaffe, which he was in control of, was having the poop knocked out of it by the RAF and the USAF. You could make a case that Germany lost the war because of Goerings passtimes. After all whoever controls the skys is the victor.

meathstevie

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

And that also how the Luftwaffe ended up with fine Sauer Drillings as survival guns for awhile in WW2. Goering's cronyism with Sauer and just about every arms company was well known. You get a contract off him. Give him some really fancy firearm as thanks, or as bait for a step up.:p

Seems to be a thing with German gun companies. The Shah of Iran ended up with this HK MP5,along with a HK VP0Z that got similar treatment,as he was a big fan of all things German military equipment,and whose remnants can still be seen in the Iranian army today.Both guns disappered in the oveerthrow of the Shah monarchy.

That MP5 looks like the bling fairy vomited and defecated on it. I’ll take one in black and gray any day over that hideous thing.

Feisar

meathstevie wrote: »

That MP5 looks like the bling fairy vomited and defecated on it. I’ll take one in black and gray any day over that hideous thing.

Yea the gold AK in Lord of War looks understated by comparison.

Grizzly 45

Apprently in both guns they had;
2kgs of ivory in the buttstock,grip and fore-end on the MP5
0ver 200 diamonds and rubies in the engravings
1kilo of 24-carat gold between the pair of them.
Guess some lucky Iranian in the looting of the palace did a midnite flit with his family and those two guns...Who wouldn't??

Grizzly 45

Feisar wrote: »

Yea the gold AK in Lord of War looks understated by comparison.

Found in any self-respecting Mexican Narco gang bosses personal collection these days. You want bling guns,go to Mexico...

Feisar

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Found in any self-respecting Mexican Narco gang bosses personal collection these days. You want bling guns,go to Mexico...

I don't even like fancy walnut!

tudderone

Feisar wrote: »

I don't even like fancy walnut!

YOU MONSTER !