Under helmet hat

Seth Brundle

Brian? wrote: »

I don't think any cycling helmet makes anyone look like a "dork", unless it has a peak.

I think all cycling helmets make the wearer look like a dork.
Its just that cyclists see past that and believe that some helmets make them look less dorky than others: nonetheless the general population will still see a dork!

Brian?

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I think all cycling helmets make the wearer look like a dork.
Its just that cyclists see past that and believe that some helmets make them look less dorky than others: nonetheless the general population will still see a dork!

To be honest, I'm not even sure what a "dork" is. What's the Irish equivelant? Gob****e or numpty?


I do think that for serious cyclists the least funny looking bit of kit we buy is the helmet. The bib tights are the funniest followed by the skin tight jerseys.

cletus

Brian? wrote: »

To be honest, I'm not even sure what a "dork" is. What's the Irish equivelant? Gob****e or numpty?

Numpty, I'm pretty sure, is English.

The vast majority of specialised clothing for any activity looks ridiculous from the outside, but once you're part of that subculture it becomes normalised, so that you can then look at some version of an item and say that you like it, or it looks good/cool/whatever inside the confines of that subculture, while the item still looks objectively silly to those on the outside

secman

Dork..
... a socially inept/awkward person
Or
Someone who has odd interests
Or
Social misfit

Pretty much sums up cyclists

Brian?

secman wrote: »

Dork..
... a socially inept/awkward person
Or
Someone who has odd interests
Or
Social misfit

Pretty much sums up cyclists

It does, I'm a dork so.

Mapaputsi

I use a Buff worn like a bandana. Even though it's pretty thin fabric it has served me very well. Keeps my ears warm but I don't overheat either.
I'd go as far as to say it's one of the best pieces of outdoor kit that I've bought, have it about 8 years now and use it running/hillwalking too.

Wishbone Ash

cletus wrote: »

...The vast majority of specialised clothing for any activity looks ridiculous from the outside, but once you're part of that subculture it becomes normalised....

Shirley Crabtree brightened up many's a Saturday afternoon for us in the 1970's and looked perfectly normal. He would look ridiculous in 'real life' though.

dinneenp

07Lapierre wrote: »

I use one of these:
(Almost too warm today)

https://www.prendas.co.uk/products/prendas-ciclismo-belgian-style-winter-hat

Some nice retro jerseys on that site- link

07Lapierre

dinneenp wrote: »

Some nice retro jerseys on that site- link

Meh im not into retro jerseys.

I do Like this one

obi604

so had a look at Kask Mojito and POC Octal helmets, they cost a small fortune (not sure how they cost so much, will they protect you more etc)

Are there any other 'tidy' ones that can be got for cheaper?

Brian?

obi604 wrote: »

so had a look at Kask Mojito and POC Octal helmets, they cost a small fortune (not sure how they cost so much, will they protect you more etc)

Are there any other 'tidy' ones that can be got for cheaper?

You can have nice and expensive or ugly and cheap.

The helmets above cost more because they offer the same protection while being lighter.


Those helmets aren’t particularly expensive to be honest, or I wouldn’t own one. What’s your budget?

obi604

Brian? wrote: »

You can have nice and expensive or ugly and cheap.

The helmets above cost more because they offer the same protection while being lighter.


Those helmets aren’t particularly expensive to be honest, or I wouldn’t own one. What’s your budget?

Maybe I’m old school but 200 Euro for a bike helmet seems very expensive to me.

Was thinking max 50

Someone mentioned to me recently about a Giro Agilis being an alternative to the Kask Mojito if you suffer from mushroom head. I'd want to try one on before I buy but they go for about half of what the Kask does. I've a Kask at the minute and was lucky to get one for less than €100

thekooman

obi604 wrote: »

Maybe I’m old school but 200 Euro for a bike helmet seems very expensive to me.

Was thinking max 50

I have a Kask Rapido which I got for 50 euro a few years back. Great helmet and value. shop around.
https://www.365rider.com/en/cycling/4764-kask-valegro-white-helmet-8057099119467.html?ssa_query=kask+val this site in Spain delivered to a friend a new Kask helmet. Great value also.

Macy0161

Brian? wrote: »

You can have nice and expensive or ugly and cheap.

The best helmet I've owned for fit, weight, and look (on me) is a planet x/ carnac podium SL. Brought pre-brexit, but was under €25 including addresspal.

Tombo2001

I recommend in this.

The windproof thing is a big plus for me, lots of beanies actually arent that windproof, might keep you warm but dont stop cold air getting into your ears.
https://greatoutdoors.ie/shop/sealskinz-windproof-all-weather-cycling-skull-cap

Brian?

obi604 wrote: »

Maybe I’m old school but 200 Euro for a bike helmet seems very expensive to me.

Was thinking max 50

I would suggest going for budget option on something as important as a helmet isn't a great idea. It protects your brain in a crash.

In that sub 50 euro price range, this is the only one I'd consider

https://www.decathlon.ie/road-helmets/300818-56848-roadr-500-women-s-road-cycling-helmet.html#/demodelsize-200m/demodelcolor-8500016?queryID=600e61f5377e81a1ead391f9cb8246ca&objectID=2392715

cletus

Brian? wrote: »

I would suggest going for budget option on something as important as a helmet isn't a great idea. It protects your brain in a crash.

In that sub 50 euro price range, this is the only one I'd consider

https://www.decathlon.ie/road-helmets/300818-56848-roadr-500-women-s-road-cycling-helmet.html#/demodelsize-200m/demodelcolor-8500016?queryID=600e61f5377e81a1ead391f9cb8246ca&objectID=2392715

Helmets, like everything else, surely have to adhere to EU standards in order to be sold here.

There's no evidence that any form of helmet protects you from acquired brain injuries. If they did, American Football wouldn't have the issues it has with CTE

ED E

Deleted User wrote: »

Someone mentioned to me recently about a Giro Agilis being an alternative to the Kask Mojito if you suffer from mushroom head. I'd want to try one on before I buy but they go for about half of what the Kask does. I've a Kask at the minute and was lucky to get one for less than €100

Kask revised the Mojito. No XL anymore.

Brian?

cletus wrote: »

Helmets, like everything else, surely have to adhere to EU standards in order to be sold here.

There's no evidence that any form of helmet protects you from acquired brain injuries. If they did, American Football wouldn't have the issues it has with CTE

The standard is only to say it meets minimum protection standards.

You can have better helmets, such as those that have the MIPS system.

https://mipsprotection.com/

Which protects the brain better. I bought my POC Octal specifically for the MIPS system.

The NFL have issues because they get repeatedly whacked on the head and had zero protocols for concussion. Concussion itself isn't great, repeated concussions are horrific. Especially if you haven't actually recovered from the last concussion.

Brian?

Macy0161 wrote: »

The best helmet I've owned for fit, weight, and look (on me) is a planet x/ carnac podium SL. Brought pre-brexit, but was under €25 including addresspal.

That helmet is ugly, sorry. I know taste is personal though, so maybe other people will like the look.

Macy0161

It is personal, as I think POCs look stupid!

grogi

cletus wrote: »

Helmets, like everything else, surely have to adhere to EU standards in order to be sold here.

Yes, but those standards typically only cover usage of hazardous materials, not actual safety of the helmet.

There's no evidence that any form of helmet protects you from acquired brain injuries. If they did, American Football wouldn't have the issues it has with CTE

There isn't a guarantee of prevention, of course. There is however a lot of evidence that properly worn helmet reduces the risk or severity of brain injury.

Wildly Boaring

I've one of these, the mips version
Find it very tidy.

https://www.sweetprotection.com/en/outrider-mips-helmet/845082.html?dwvar_845082_color=MBL20&cgid=15308

After years in a kayak I'm a big fan of Sweet
Mines light blue with white trim. Colors updated since

Brian?

Macy0161 wrote: »

It is personal, as I think POCs look stupid!

They're definitely an acquired taste.

cletus

Brian? wrote: »

The standard is only to say it meets minimum protection standards.

You can have better helmets, such as those that have the MIPS system.

https://mipsprotection.com/

Which protects the brain better. I bought my POC Octal specifically for the MIPS system.

The NFL have issues because they get repeatedly whacked on the head and had zero protocols for concussion. Concussion itself isn't great, repeated concussions are horrific. Especially if you haven't actually recovered from the last concussion.

I'm aware of the causes of, and reasons behind concussive and sub-concussive blows, as well as the causes and effects of CTE.

I agree that comparing sports where blows to the head are repeated, commonplace, and sometimes the goal of the activity andfthat of, say cycling, are probablyu not althoghether helpful (a point I made previously in the helmets thread).

grogi wrote: »

Yes, but those standards typically only cover usage of hazardous materials, not actual safety of the helmet.

As far as I was aware, the tests involved drop tests and strap tests. There doesn't appear to be a tests standard for MIPS specifically, so regardless of whether the helmet has it, the tests remain the same (inadequate though they may be)

grogi wrote: »

There isn't a guarantee of prevention, of course. There is however a lot of evidence that properly worn helmet reduces the risk or severity of brain injury.

I'm aware of the Virtginia Tech studies done on MIPS vs non MIPS helmets, and the system does seem to have some merit, although my understanding is that it has a tab system that breaks upon impact, so subsequent impacts in the same incident will not have the same protection (struck by a car, then subsequently hitting the ground)







I suppose the main point of contention for me was the idea that "you get what you pay for". There are MIPS equiped helemts on Amazon for £43, if MIPS is the main thrust of the argument regarding safety

obi604

Brian? wrote: »

I would suggest going for budget option on something as important as a helmet isn't a great idea. It protects your brain in a crash.

In that sub 50 euro price range, this is the only one I'd consider

https://www.decathlon.ie/road-helmets/300818-56848-roadr-500-women-s-road-cycling-helmet.html#/demodelsize-200m/demodelcolor-8500016?queryID=600e61f5377e81a1ead391f9cb8246ca&objectID=2392715

This one in fairness does not look bad IMHO and the price is ok

sgarvan

obi604 wrote: »

First off, am a casual cycler.

Was out today and head was cold under helmet.

Could anyone recommend an under helmet hat.

Is fleece or non fleece better?

Does fleece just mean too much sweat

I bought this. Cheap price. Fits perfect under the helmet and covers the ears.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08DKVS24F

lissard

Picked this up in CSS late last year and it's a nice product - keeps the head warm without overdoing it. Not expensive and handy to just stick in your pocket when you go out. If you feel cold just pop it on under the helmet.

https://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=114781

obi604

What about this beaut for a tener


https://www.lidl.ie/en/p/just-keep-spinning/adult-cycling-helmet/p8058