Under helmet hat

obi604

First off, am a casual cycler.

Was out today and head was cold under helmet.

Could anyone recommend an under helmet hat.

Is fleece or non fleece better?

Does fleece just mean too much sweat

Idleater

Depends on what fits. Cycling caps (casquette) fit nicely but don't help with cold ears. A bandana or snood might help there.

NIMAN

Casual cyclist myself who was on the end of a few frozen heads recently.

Just started wearing a tight beanie hat under the helmet, makes a big difference.

CantGetNoSleep

Something like this is great in winter

https://galibier.cc/product/thermo-skull-cap/

meercat

On a particularly cold day I use this

https://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=130161


Or a skull cap

https://www.cyclesuperstore.ie/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=142320

Away With The Fairies

I have a favourite cap I love in winter. Took up cycling last year but the cap is to thick for wearing under a helmet.

So I got this cap and I really like it and covers the ears as well
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B08112K9VY?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

grogi

I use a balaclava. Covers the neck and the ears as well

obi604

Which would be better:

This

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08DKVS24F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_dlT1_C267SBJ8TH48BQ3H1FJ5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Or this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075NG7G9Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_611QGY0HZ2APT0VD5SZC

07Lapierre

I use one of these:
(Almost too warm today)

https://www.prendas.co.uk/products/prendas-ciclismo-belgian-style-winter-hat

Fighting Tao

I use a quick dry bandana that cost about €1 from AliExpress. My head gets very warm quickly and all I need is slight windbreaker.

ED E

I have this problem big time. My Kask Mojito is a bit of a wind tunnel in winter and Ive a huge noggin.

https://www.walzcaps.com/collections/classic-cycling-caps-cotton

^ If you need something in the 64cm range these are the bees knees.

TheBlaaMan

Search for "Belgian winter hat" and you will find some decent ones from Prendas and Galibier as above but also (better known?) brands such as Rapha and Castelli. The Belgian style caps have extensions that cover the ears and some also have peaks that can be handy in wet weather to keep crap out of your eye's. Those made of Merino wool wont itch as much as cheaper ones and also are toasty without you sweating too much,
Worth spending the €25-30 or some on the above.

CantGetNoSleep

obi604 wrote: »

Which would be better:

This

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08DKVS24F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_dlT1_C267SBJ8TH48BQ3H1FJ5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Or this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B075NG7G9Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_611QGY0HZ2APT0VD5SZC

Wouldn't buy any unknown brands from Amazon tbh. A lot of cheap tat on there when it comes to cycling. Many better alternatives suggested in the thread.

crosstownk

ED E wrote: »

I have this problem big time. My Kask Mojito is a bit of a wind tunnel in winter

I also have a Kask Mojito and use a regular casquette underneath in cold weather. Peak down in the rain is great for keeping most of the rain out of my eyes. I used to use a skull cap but they're uncomfortable with Aftershokz headphones.

Brian?

I wear one of these as a hat, I find anything else too warm:

https://www.decathlon.nl/p/nekwarmer-in-2-materialen-voor-fietsers-500-fluogeel/_/R-p-X8596990?mc=8596990&c=GROEN

Wanderer78

obi604 wrote:

Is fleece or non fleece better?

I use a buff around my neck and under the helmet, I'd say they're probably synthetic, does the job though

Whatwicklow

A Swimming hat works greatðŸ‘ðŸ‘

Cionn

Normally I wear a skull cap untill I stop for a coffee, then I use a snood/ bandana for the spin home. I am too soft to put the cold sweaty cap back on. They take up no space so it's a easy ine

Macy0161

Belgian Cap for me. My "go to" one is a waterproof Gore one.

Wishbone Ash

I rarely wear a cycling cap as I rarely get a cold head. However I find that a cotton cap on a cold wet day is pretty much useless as the cap just becomes soaked and icy cold.

Are the waterproof ones bulky or will they fit under a helmet like a standard cap?

Brian?

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I rarely wear a cycling cap as I rarely get a cold head. However I find that a cotton cap on a cold wet day is pretty much useless as the cap just becomes soaked and icy cold.

Are the waterproof ones bulky or will they fit under a helmet like a standard cap?

I kind of agree here, that's the reason I use the snood thing as a hat. It's a wicking material and it's only really to keep my forehead and ears warm on really cold days.

Macy0161

The Gore one I have is "wind stopper" material rather than cotton, so somewhat water resistant too.

Galibier have a mistral rain cap, which the only thing missing for me is the Belgian cap flap.

eeeee

The Sealskinz waterproof casquette is the same size as a regular one (same under-helmet bulk). They're brilliant.

thekooman

i use a cycling cap and a winter type sweatband (e.g. https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/sportful-air-protection-headband-aw20/rp-prod200527?mx01=a&mx02=a) over the cap... layers :-)

68 lost souls

I use a rapha “pro team hat” got it on sale and it’s toasty, covers the ears and the back of the neck, fits under the kask mojito and it’s very comfortable

secman

Cycle cap for me...but not for cold.. to get sweat down the cap peak away from my eyes.

obi604

Can anyone recommend a helmet that dosent make one look like a dork?

A nice tidy fitting one.

secman

obi604 wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a helmet that dosent make one look like a dork?

A nice tidy fitting one.

If you have a dork head...no helmet will hide that

I use Kask mojito. .. popular with a lot of cyclists , neat enough.

obi604

secman wrote: »

If you have a dork head...no helmet will hide that

I use Kask mojito. .. popular with a lot of cyclists , neat enough.

True
Thanks.

Brian?

obi604 wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a helmet that dosent make one look like a dork?

A nice tidy fitting one.

I don't think any cycling helmet makes anyone look like a "dork", unless it has a peak.

I recommend the POC Octal.

Seth Brundle

Brian? wrote: »

I don't think any cycling helmet makes anyone look like a "dork", unless it has a peak.

I think all cycling helmets make the wearer look like a dork.
Its just that cyclists see past that and believe that some helmets make them look less dorky than others: nonetheless the general population will still see a dork!

Brian?

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I think all cycling helmets make the wearer look like a dork.
Its just that cyclists see past that and believe that some helmets make them look less dorky than others: nonetheless the general population will still see a dork!

To be honest, I'm not even sure what a "dork" is. What's the Irish equivelant? Gob****e or numpty?


I do think that for serious cyclists the least funny looking bit of kit we buy is the helmet. The bib tights are the funniest followed by the skin tight jerseys.

cletus

Brian? wrote: »

To be honest, I'm not even sure what a "dork" is. What's the Irish equivelant? Gob****e or numpty?

Numpty, I'm pretty sure, is English.

The vast majority of specialised clothing for any activity looks ridiculous from the outside, but once you're part of that subculture it becomes normalised, so that you can then look at some version of an item and say that you like it, or it looks good/cool/whatever inside the confines of that subculture, while the item still looks objectively silly to those on the outside

secman

Dork..
... a socially inept/awkward person
Or
Someone who has odd interests
Or
Social misfit

Pretty much sums up cyclists

Brian?

secman wrote: »

Dork..
... a socially inept/awkward person
Or
Someone who has odd interests
Or
Social misfit

Pretty much sums up cyclists

It does, I'm a dork so.

Mapaputsi

I use a Buff worn like a bandana. Even though it's pretty thin fabric it has served me very well. Keeps my ears warm but I don't overheat either.
I'd go as far as to say it's one of the best pieces of outdoor kit that I've bought, have it about 8 years now and use it running/hillwalking too.

Wishbone Ash

cletus wrote: »

...The vast majority of specialised clothing for any activity looks ridiculous from the outside, but once you're part of that subculture it becomes normalised....

Shirley Crabtree brightened up many's a Saturday afternoon for us in the 1970's and looked perfectly normal. He would look ridiculous in 'real life' though.

dinneenp

07Lapierre wrote: »

I use one of these:
(Almost too warm today)

https://www.prendas.co.uk/products/prendas-ciclismo-belgian-style-winter-hat

Some nice retro jerseys on that site- link

07Lapierre

dinneenp wrote: »

Some nice retro jerseys on that site- link

Meh im not into retro jerseys.

I do Like this one

obi604

so had a look at Kask Mojito and POC Octal helmets, they cost a small fortune (not sure how they cost so much, will they protect you more etc)

Are there any other 'tidy' ones that can be got for cheaper?

Brian?

obi604 wrote: »

so had a look at Kask Mojito and POC Octal helmets, they cost a small fortune (not sure how they cost so much, will they protect you more etc)

Are there any other 'tidy' ones that can be got for cheaper?

You can have nice and expensive or ugly and cheap.

The helmets above cost more because they offer the same protection while being lighter.


Those helmets aren’t particularly expensive to be honest, or I wouldn’t own one. What’s your budget?

obi604

Brian? wrote: »

You can have nice and expensive or ugly and cheap.

The helmets above cost more because they offer the same protection while being lighter.


Those helmets aren’t particularly expensive to be honest, or I wouldn’t own one. What’s your budget?

Maybe I’m old school but 200 Euro for a bike helmet seems very expensive to me.

Was thinking max 50

Someone mentioned to me recently about a Giro Agilis being an alternative to the Kask Mojito if you suffer from mushroom head. I'd want to try one on before I buy but they go for about half of what the Kask does. I've a Kask at the minute and was lucky to get one for less than €100

thekooman

obi604 wrote: »

Maybe I’m old school but 200 Euro for a bike helmet seems very expensive to me.

Was thinking max 50

I have a Kask Rapido which I got for 50 euro a few years back. Great helmet and value. shop around.
https://www.365rider.com/en/cycling/4764-kask-valegro-white-helmet-8057099119467.html?ssa_query=kask+val this site in Spain delivered to a friend a new Kask helmet. Great value also.

Macy0161

Brian? wrote: »

You can have nice and expensive or ugly and cheap.

The best helmet I've owned for fit, weight, and look (on me) is a planet x/ carnac podium SL. Brought pre-brexit, but was under €25 including addresspal.

Tombo2001

I recommend in this.

The windproof thing is a big plus for me, lots of beanies actually arent that windproof, might keep you warm but dont stop cold air getting into your ears.
https://greatoutdoors.ie/shop/sealskinz-windproof-all-weather-cycling-skull-cap

Brian?

obi604 wrote: »

Maybe I’m old school but 200 Euro for a bike helmet seems very expensive to me.

Was thinking max 50

I would suggest going for budget option on something as important as a helmet isn't a great idea. It protects your brain in a crash.

In that sub 50 euro price range, this is the only one I'd consider

https://www.decathlon.ie/road-helmets/300818-56848-roadr-500-women-s-road-cycling-helmet.html#/demodelsize-200m/demodelcolor-8500016?queryID=600e61f5377e81a1ead391f9cb8246ca&objectID=2392715

cletus

Brian? wrote: »

I would suggest going for budget option on something as important as a helmet isn't a great idea. It protects your brain in a crash.

In that sub 50 euro price range, this is the only one I'd consider

https://www.decathlon.ie/road-helmets/300818-56848-roadr-500-women-s-road-cycling-helmet.html#/demodelsize-200m/demodelcolor-8500016?queryID=600e61f5377e81a1ead391f9cb8246ca&objectID=2392715

Helmets, like everything else, surely have to adhere to EU standards in order to be sold here.

There's no evidence that any form of helmet protects you from acquired brain injuries. If they did, American Football wouldn't have the issues it has with CTE

ED E

Deleted User wrote: »

Someone mentioned to me recently about a Giro Agilis being an alternative to the Kask Mojito if you suffer from mushroom head. I'd want to try one on before I buy but they go for about half of what the Kask does. I've a Kask at the minute and was lucky to get one for less than €100

Kask revised the Mojito. No XL anymore.

Brian?

cletus wrote: »

Helmets, like everything else, surely have to adhere to EU standards in order to be sold here.

There's no evidence that any form of helmet protects you from acquired brain injuries. If they did, American Football wouldn't have the issues it has with CTE

The standard is only to say it meets minimum protection standards.

You can have better helmets, such as those that have the MIPS system.

https://mipsprotection.com/

Which protects the brain better. I bought my POC Octal specifically for the MIPS system.

The NFL have issues because they get repeatedly whacked on the head and had zero protocols for concussion. Concussion itself isn't great, repeated concussions are horrific. Especially if you haven't actually recovered from the last concussion.

Brian?

Macy0161 wrote: »

The best helmet I've owned for fit, weight, and look (on me) is a planet x/ carnac podium SL. Brought pre-brexit, but was under €25 including addresspal.

That helmet is ugly, sorry. I know taste is personal though, so maybe other people will like the look.