Gameweek 23 Match Day thread

keane2097 · 06-02-2021 8:48pm

shmeee wrote: »

Fab got a yellow, must have missed that? Time wasting?

Yes that's right, it was before the red card weirdly

Pogue eile · 06-02-2021 8:49pm

extra gravy wrote: »

You don't think a grown man throwing himself to the ground after a tap to the face is embarrassing?

You think it was a tap? There are 100 examples of diving every week, this was not one.

Id imagine if it was Mitrovic who caught the highly owned Soucek with an elbow there would be a very different view here.

eggy81 · 06-02-2021 8:49pm

Lundstram wrote: »

It's the normalising of players behaviour like Mitro that has the sport the way it is. Horrible gamesmanship. Deliberately trying to get players red cards.

If it weren't for FPL, you couldn't pay me to watch 90% of the crap the EPL has to offer.

Nothing worse than the phrase he’s given him the right to go down. Some of the fouls given these days are comical looking. It’s got worse since var came in too.

Lundstram · 06-02-2021 8:51pm

eggy81 wrote: »

Nothing worse than the phrase he’s given him the right to go down. Some of the foils given these days are comical looking. It’s got worse since var came in too.

And we have have people defending the likes of Mitrovic. That's a bloody nose at worst but he's gone down there like he took a shotgun cartridge at point blank range complete with screams and rolling around.

Embarrassing to watch.

Benimar · 06-02-2021 8:51pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

On what grounds? There was contact, it was Soucek...I dont think there is any other criteria they will look at.

On the grounds that it isn’t a red card offence pure and simple. Contact does not automatically equate to a foul.

CSF · 06-02-2021 8:52pm

Benimar wrote: »

It’s violent conduct (ha!) so is 3 games (cup and 2 league games), but will surely be overturned on appeal.

Hard to see this one being overturned IMO.

Would be pretty grim for Mike Dean to have this one overturned a few days after he had another that he reviewed on a tv screen overturned.

extra gravy · 06-02-2021 8:53pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

You think it was a tap? There are 100 examples of diving every week, this was not one.

You really think that was a powerful enough elbow to make a guy the size of Mitrovic fall over? We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

CSF · 06-02-2021 8:53pm

Pogue eile wrote: »

You think it was a tap? There are 100 examples of diving every week, this was not one.

Id imagine if it was Mitrovic who caught the highly owned Soucek with an elbow there would be a very different view here.

I was actually wondering the same for if it was someone like him, Ramos or Costa

eggy81 · 06-02-2021 8:53pm

Lundstram wrote: »

And we have have people defending the likes of Mitrovic. That's a bloody nose at worst but he's gone down there like he took a shotgun cartridge at point blank range complete with screams and rolling around.

Embarrassing to watch.

It’s not the players faults though IMO. The rules have created what football is now.

Benimar · 06-02-2021 8:54pm

CSF wrote: »

Hard to see this one being overturned IMO.

Would be pretty grim for Mike Dean to have this one overturned a few days after he had another that he reviewed on a tv screen overturned.

I’ll be stunned if it’s not overturned, it’s such a clearly incorrect decision.

Happy4all · 06-02-2021 8:54pm

shmeee wrote: »

Fab got a yellow, must have missed that? Time wasting?

Yes

extra gravy · 06-02-2021 8:55pm

I think the fact that former professional footballers both on tv and Twitter are calling it a farcical decision says it all.

CSF · 06-02-2021 8:56pm

Benimar wrote: »

I’ll be stunned if it’s not overturned, it’s such a clearly incorrect decision.

Don’t forget, it’s 2 refs who have recommended this as a red. Not just Mike Dean. Mike Dean is only asked to go over if the VAR ref recommends it as a red.

Pogue eile · 06-02-2021 8:58pm

Benimar wrote: »

On the grounds that it isn’t a red card offence pure and simple. Contact does not automatically equate to a foul.

I dont think that is enough to turn it over, I would be amazed if it gets overturned. Then again after this weeks events who knows.

Dubh Geannain · 06-02-2021 8:59pm

Soucek should sue the VAR check.

Bob the Seducer · 06-02-2021 8:59pm

Le sigh... 9 points from 4 right now and that includes a 6 point clean sheet defender.

Martinez benched on a 7... six of the last seven weeks my benched keeper has scored higher than the one I've played, I fully expect that to be seven out of eight by the end of this gameweek.

Benimar · 06-02-2021 8:59pm

CSF wrote: »

Don’t forget, it’s 2 refs who have recommended this as a red. Not just Mike Dean. Mike Dean is only asked to go over if the VAR ref recommends it as a red.

The second one is Lee Mason though :pac:

Two peas from the same pod there.

Ace2007 · 06-02-2021 9:02pm

Lundstram wrote: »

It's the normalising of players behaviour like Mitro that has the sport the way it is. Horrible gamesmanship. Deliberately trying to get players red cards.

If it weren't for FPL, you couldn't pay me to watch 90% of the crap the EPL has to offer.

Gamesmanship went out the window a long time ago - this is big business now. Guys making professional fouls and taking a yellow for the team - a perfect example of something seen an normal nowadays.

There are countless examples in matches every weekend which aren't gamesmanship like - but rarely get called out on - due to how much is at stake.

callaway92 · 06-02-2021 9:03pm

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Me arse

Nah man - It’s so easy to disguise as an accident

Rikand · 06-02-2021 9:05pm

Opted for soucek instead of DCL this week. We all know how this ends....

callaway92 · 06-02-2021 9:05pm

CSF wrote: »

Don't agree. It looked like a sly one while trying to make it look unintentional to me. Not that easy to accidentally elbow someone in the face IMO when you're not even jumping.

This

CSF · 06-02-2021 9:09pm

Benimar wrote: »

The second one is Lee Mason though :pac:

Two peas from the same pod there.

Yeah, I absolutely get the frustration from people who have him in their team,

Rikand · 06-02-2021 9:10pm

Oh well - at least Soucek got the clean sheet point before he got himself sent off

ThunbergsAreGo · 06-02-2021 9:17pm

eggy81 wrote: »

It’s not the players faults though IMO. The rules have created what football is now.

A slow moving, boring, broken mess

ElTel · 06-02-2021 9:22pm

Didn't see the last half hour.
Captain Antonio looked leggy and first sub Soucek.

Do we think he's injured a hammy again or is it precautionary?
Will wait for MOTD for the RC but did someone suggest Mitro told the ref it's not a red?