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Charging without a driveway

  • 03-02-2021 6:21pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭ maddness


    This may be a stupid question but does anyone charge their ev/phev at home without their own driveway. The reason I ask is where I live we have parking spaces outside but if you were charging the cable would have to go over the footpath. Is this an option with something like a mat over the cable or is it just a big no?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭ KCross


    Currently a big no becuase you are open to being sued in this mad legal system we have and the fact that you dont own the footpath or have the right to dig it to hide cables.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators Posts: 81,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭ biko


    This question has come up before and there isn't really much you can do without a driveway.
    Can you charge at work or public charge stations?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,082 ✭✭✭✭ ED E


    A man near me charges his X5 PHEV via the footpath in a private space (gated community).

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    Covered like this, whether or not it'd save him in court is hard to know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭ maddness


    ED E wrote: »
    A man near me charges his X5 PHEV via the footpath in a private space (gated community).

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    Covered like this, whether or not it'd save him in court is hard to know.

    That’s the kind of thing I was thinking of, a similar rubber mat to cover the cable.
    I don’t have a phev but am thinking of one and don’t have an office to charge it.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    maddness wrote: »
    This may be a stupid question but does anyone charge their ev/phev at home without their own driveway. The reason I ask is where I live we have parking spaces outside but if you were charging the cable would have to go over the footpath. Is this an option with something like a mat over the cable or is it just a big no?

    Have you got a Management Company?
    If so, you can core out a tunnel under the path to the front wall of the house. You can then connect to your consumer unit.

    The other end can connect to a pedestal charger subject to MC approval.

    Been done a few times around the place now.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    maddness wrote: »
    That’s the kind of thing I was thinking of, a similar rubber mat to cover the cable.
    I don’t have a phev but am thinking of one and don’t have an office to charge it.

    Still liability issues with these. Especially for people using wheelchairs, walking sticks or kanes. You are still cross a public path and therefore public liability is required.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭ maddness


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Have you got a Management Company?
    If so, you can core out a tunnel under the path to the front wall of the house. You can then connect to your consumer unit.

    The other end can connect to a pedestal charger subject to MC approval.

    Been done a few times around the place now.

    Cheers for the suggestion.
    I wasn’t going to install a charger as we are hoping to move house next year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭ maddness


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Still liability issues with these. Especially for people using wheelchairs, walking sticks or kanes. You are still cross a public path and therefore public liability is required.

    That’s what I thought alright, phev might not be for me at the moment.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    maddness wrote: »
    That’s what I thought alright, phev might not be for me at the moment.

    Easy to install as per my previous post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,752 ✭✭✭✭ flazio


    What about some sort of gantry hanging off the wall, maybe 7ft up reaching over the path onto the parking space?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭ maddness


    Gumbo wrote: »
    Easy to install as per my previous post.

    At what cost though?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 6,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭ liamog


    My install cost about €1,200, well worth the price. There are much cheaper options available now than going full pedestal.
    We're management company, which makes the whole process easier.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    flazio wrote: »
    What about some sort of gantry hanging off the wall, maybe 7ft up reaching over the path onto the parking space?

    And hope it doesn’t fall onto a passing person. You have to fix a “structure” in the public domain so technically into planning territory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭ maddness


    liamog wrote: »
    My install cost about €1,200, well worth the price. There are much cheaper options available now than going full pedestal.
    We're management company, which makes the whole process easier.


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    That look great in fairness. Is the €600 grant available for this too?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭ Buddy Bubs


    liamog wrote: »
    My install cost about €1,200, well worth the price. There are much cheaper options available now than going full pedestal.
    We're management company, which makes the whole process easier.


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    Where is the power drawn from for that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭ WayneEnterprise


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    I got this done


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    Buddy Bubs wrote: »
    Where is the power drawn from for that?

    As per my previous posts in this same thread.
    The cable is cored under the path to house consumer unit.

    Very common here in Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭ Buddy Bubs


    Gumbo wrote: »
    As per my previous posts in this same thread.
    The cable is cored under the path to house consumer unit.

    Very common here in Dublin.

    Looks great


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    Buddy Bubs wrote: »
    Looks great

    Yeah obviously costs more than a standard install so you just have to weigh it up against costs and time you plan to be in the house for etc.

    It can only help when selling too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭ graememk


    Gumbo wrote: »
    As per my previous posts in this same thread.
    The cable is cored under the path to house consumer unit.

    Very common here in Dublin.

    Would love to see that done, Just for sheer curiosity.

    All really neat jobs.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    graememk wrote: »
    Would love to see that done, Just for sheer curiosity.

    All really neat jobs.

    There’s 2 pictures of the finished article up above your post.

    Also many posts on the Irish EV Facebook page from the actual installers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭ graememk


    Gumbo wrote: »
    There’s 2 pictures of the finished article up above your post.

    Also many posts on the Irish EV Facebook page from the actual installers.

    I meant the actual tunneling bit!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    graememk wrote: »
    I meant the actual tunneling bit!

    :D

    Think Armageddon but on a smaller scale :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭ graememk


    Gumbo wrote: »
    :D

    Think Armageddon but on a smaller scale :)

    Going totally off topic.. The Core?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    graememk wrote: »
    Going totally off topic.. The Core?

    Nigel Daly from NMD Electrical has done and posted a few on the FB Group.


  • Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭ WayneEnterprise


    graememk wrote: »
    I meant the actual tunneling bit!

    Mine wasn’t tunnelled, just lifted and replaced the paving stones.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ smellyoldboot


    Before you think about spending a fortune on an EVand charger etc, think about this: the street outside your door and "your" parking space don't actually belong to you. An asshole neighbour can decide to park their second/third car there or someone's gomie relatives could stay for a while and block your space, stop you from charging and there's not a thing you can do about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭ WayneEnterprise


    Before you think about spending a fortune on an EVand charger etc, think about this: the street outside your door and "your" parking space don't actually belong to you. An asshole neighbour can decide to park their second/third car there or someone's gomie relatives could stay for a while and block your space, stop you from charging and there's not a thing you can do about it.

    I do own my car spaces, they are in my property deeds.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭ smellyoldboot


    I do own my car spaces, they are in my property deeds.

    Tunnel away so. You can put nearly anything you like under the ground.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Gumbo


    Mine wasn’t tunnelled, just lifted and replaced the paving stones.

    Your in the lucky position to have a fully paved route.
    Easy job to lift, lay cable and relay and re-sand.

    Nice neat job.


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