Luggage, bags and computer cases etc all 70% off

JohnDigital

Closing down sale here https://www.adamsonluggage.com/

glog

JohnDigital wrote: »

Closing down sale here https://www.adamsonluggage.com/

Plus delivery @ €12.95

thebiglad

Great prices, picked up a couple of cases for when allowed to travel again - thanks OP.

Small concern, got my Paypal confirmation but nothing from Adamson - guess their online is not too refined, hopefully confirmation arrives tomorrow :P

punisher5112

Would additional taxes and charges not apply now also....

Decoda

punisher5112 wrote: »

Would additional taxes and charges not apply now also....

Why? It's an irish company based in Dublin......

Stonyjim

Is this genuine ? The website looks very dodgy to me. I would wait and try to ring in the morning to see if it's genuine cause it looks like a fake website. Maybe I am wrong but when stuff looks to good to be true it usually is. Seems to be pay by Paypal only which in itself has alarm bells ringing for me.

Stonyjim

Stonyjim wrote: »

Is this genuine ? The website looks very dodgy to me. I would wait and try to ring in the morning to see if it's genuine cause it looks like a fake website. Maybe I am wrong but when stuff looks to good to be true it usually is. Seems to be pay by Paypal only which in itself has alarm bells ringing for me.

Comes up on the one4all website.

https://www.one4all.ie/adamson-luggage.html

Stonyjim

Not taking the vouchers as per the website message now. Is this a website of a company that is already closed ? Or just had there website stolen. Maybe their website was just poor anyway bit it looks very suspect to me. Not much on their social media about closing down sales.

Stonyjim

Stonyjim wrote: »

Not taking the vouchers as per the website message now. Is this a website of a company that is already closed ? Or just had there website stolen. Maybe their website was just poor anyway bit it looks very suspect to me. Not much on their social media about closing down sales.

Don't think they're closing down, not sure where OP got that from. Just a stock clearance sale. https://www.facebook.com/AdamsonLuggage/

dan786

Stonyjim wrote: »

Is this genuine ? The website looks very dodgy to me. I would wait and try to ring in the morning to see if it's genuine cause it looks like a fake website. Maybe I am wrong but when stuff looks to good to be true it usually is. Seems to be pay by Paypal only which in itself has alarm bells ringing for me.

Paypal is one of the safest ways to pay and very good to deal with if anything goes wrong.

Stonyjim

Glad to hear that the company is not closing down. Good bargains if genuine but I still think I will ring before I order anything and investigate a little more.

Stonyjim

Stonyjim wrote: »

Glad to hear that the company is not closing down. Good bargains if genuine but I still think I will ring before I order anything and investigate a little more.

The website has always looked something like that, I wouldn't worry about it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200925221737/https://www.adamsonluggage.com/

wanderer 22

Thanks OP - ordered a bag there. Odd how it says 'free delivery with this product' on most items but then there's still a charge of €12.95. Despite that, still some great prices.

Nigel Fairservice

Website not the best I’ve ever seen but took a punt on a garment/suit bag thing. I don’t cart a suit around very often but when I do it’s always a bit awkward.

I paid by PayPal. The transaction went through but didn’t take me back to the Adamson website. Didn’t get a confirmation from Adamson either like another poster but hopefully tomorrow. Didn’t cost too much and I can always get my money back from PayPal.

wanderer 22

Hmmmm, some alarm bells ringing - My PayPal receipt says ' You sent a payment to 'john@admaosnluggage.com'..not a great sign if the shop name is spelt incorrectly...:eek:

dan786

colm18 wrote: »

Hmmmm, some alarm bells ringing - My PayPal receipt says ' You sent a payment to 'john@admaosnluggage.com'..not a great sign if the shop name is spelt incorrectly...:eek:

Coincidence that the OP also has John in their username and posted today after a year, their last post on Boards was 1 year ago and before that 7 years ago

Time

i didn't really need another suitcase but i bought a briggs and Riley one because i'll probably never see them at 70% off again.

I've bought all my luggage here the last few years. Terrible shame to see them close, especially since they're the only place to do Rimowa repairs.

FFVII

Someone got my card details a few years back and set up a PayPal guest account with my card!

And i had my own PayPal account with same card. PayPal didn't find this odd.

They went on a little shopy spree. So i blocked card. They also set up some kinda Facebook games account and just used the card itself aswell.

Id only used the card online in 2 places and never in a physical location. And i am no amateur with security.

Anywho, many hours of phone calls later, all sorted.

Cue 6 months later PayPal took there money back!!!

They are assholes.

dan786

All email address on their site are correct sales@adamsonluggage.com and info@adamsonluggage.com, so the Paypal being wrong is a bit suspicious. The payment seems to be going to an email on completely different domain. Very odd.

Has anyone that bought from the successfully in the past with paypal confirm if the email address for payment has always been the same?

kindalen

Time wrote: »

i didn't really need another suitcase but i bought a briggs and Riley one because i'll probably never see them at 70% off again.

I've bought all my luggage here the last few years. Terrible shame to see them close, especially since they're the only place to do Rimowa repairs.

Have you bought off their online shop?

Stonyjim

I have never bought online in Ireland from an Irish company and the default payment method was PayPal. The site does not even seem to offer an option to pay with cards - just PayPal. . Nor is there any info about secure payment etc you usually see on legit sites. The buttons that are supposed to link to their social media sites don't work either. You can add an infinite amount of any given item to your basket. All looks very wrong.

Time

kindalen wrote: »

Have you bought off their online shop?

No, but the website has always been fairly outdated looking, so not overly concerned tbh, especially since their FB page has a post about it according to another post.

clevtrev

yes, this all looks well dodgy. I cant see a shop of this size being able to give discounts of 70% off branded goods. The website address seems valid and links from facebook and one4all work but the website is very simple and most of the dropdown links dont work. Would steer well clear although just checked the mobile site and all the links are working still....

mdwexford

Plus the fact “stock clearance” is spelled incorrectly on the main page.

Looks dodgy as anything.

thebiglad

Now getting a bit worried, didn't notice the misspelling of clearance - thats not great!

I did notice the email address was not correct when the Paypal confirmation came through.

I have checked my Paypal and the payment has gone directly from my PayPal account, no redirect etc so if this is a scam not sure how the scammer expects to get any money - even if it takes a while, Paypal will ultimately refund so scammer would not get the funds and Paypal will not be sharing credit card details and I didn't think Paypal transfer the funds immediately to the vendor.

Guess wait for later in the morning and see what transpires.

Sure a small shop cannot afford to take a 70% hit but perhaps they have cash flow issues and just need some money to come in...

Summer2020

Anyone try ringing the shop number to verify? Seems to good to be true...

amber2

They have a Facebook page that is years old, not recently set up recently and its showing a 70% off sale posted 16 hrs ago.

thebiglad

Summer2020 wrote: »

Anyone try ringing the shop number to verify? Seems to good to be true...

The shop would not open until 9am, presuming anyone is even in the shop or, they have the phone diverted on.

AhhHere

Red flags so far

- Irish based business but shipping from the UK
- clearance spelt wrong on site
- only PayPal as payment option
- PayPal email spelt wrong
- inactive poster for 8 years sharing
- in site links not working correctly
- no out of sale stock
- limited brands available. (I don't see secrid wallets which were always in their window. The don't even have a wallet option in their product list)
- a deal too good to be true...

Any others?

thebiglad

Agree with all points and now convinced this is not legit but...

Maybe simplistic but, how would this scam work with Paypal involved - surely if buyers flag up to PayPal the payments don't get made to 'John'. Presume Paypal do not make funds available immediately.

Does the 'scammer' rely on delay in identifying issue?

The link to Paypal site was legit and with 2 stage authentication not possible to hijack a PayPal account so easily.

Where's the win here?

AhhHere

thebiglad wrote: »

Agree with all points and now convinced this is not legit but...

Maybe simplistic but, how would this scam work with Paypal involved - surely if buyers flag up to PayPal the payments don't get made to 'John'. Presume Paypal do not make funds available immediately.

Does the 'scammer' rely on delay in identifying issue?

The link to Paypal site was legit and with 2 stage authentication not possible to hijack a PayPal account so easily.

Where's the win here?

I believe the only way of not getting money returned via pp is if you select the recipient as a friend not a business. Might be wrong but think that's the case.

thebiglad

AhhHere wrote: »

I believe the only way of not getting money returned via pp is if you select the recipient as a friend not a business. Might be wrong but think that's the case.

That's what I thought and this was definitely a normal payment to business transaction.

Oh well, we'll find out later today I guess.

kindalen

I took a chance and bought. My guess is a small business, with a cheap website developer, in dire need of cashflow.

thebiglad

kindalen wrote: »

I took a chance and bought. My guess is a small business, with a cheap website developer, in dire need of cashflow.

That was my first thought, my real concern is the incorrect email which comes from Paypal as the contact for Adamsons everything I can kind of live with or justify but, there email would be right - they would have been taking online orders for a while.

With Paypal buyer protection just doesn't seem the best way to make money?

kindalen

kindalen wrote: »

I took a chance and bought. My guess is a small business, with a cheap website developer, in dire need of cashflow.

Agreed. The domain for the incorrectly spelled email address is available to buy so it's likely that they just typed it wrong. Also if they only took card and not PayPal that would be a flag for me rather than vice versa.

Fuascailteoir

Some items showing as out of stock. If it was a scam why would they bother with that rather than trying to hoover up as much as possible. Scam doesn't make any sense

kindalen

Bag I bought is now out of stock.

thebiglad

2 things I purchased are no longer available - agree, if a scam why make anything out of stock but I am still 50/50 - there is just so much (with hindsight) which is wrong.

If this turns out to be legit, aside from being a great bargain alert, Adamson Luggage really need to step up their IT Team - it is not what you would expect from such a pricey shop which trades on service.

Hard to believe with such a poor website they can have stock tracking - maybe that should be another flag - we can go on forever (or until someone actually gets them to answer the phone and confirm or otherwise).

thebiglad

thebiglad wrote: »

2 things I purchased are no longer available - agree, if a scam why make anything out of stock but I am still 50/50 - there is just so much (with hindsight) which is wrong.

If this turns out to be legit, aside from being a great bargain alert, Adamson Luggage really need to step up their IT Team - it is not what you would expect from such a pricey shop which trades on service.

Hard to believe with such a poor website they can have stock tracking - maybe that should be another flag - we can go on forever (or until someone actually gets them to answer the phone and confirm or otherwise).

I personally don't think there's any red flags. Just to categorise the flags that someone else mentioned:

- Irish based business but shipping from the UK (not a red flag imo)
- clearance spelt wrong on site (bad website developer)
- only PayPal as payment option (not a red flag imo)
- PayPal email spelt wrong (bad website developer)
- inactive poster for 8 years sharing (not a red flag imo)
- in site links not working correctly (bad website developer)
- no out of sale stock (not true anymore)
- limited brands available. (not a red flag imo)
- a deal too good to be true (struggling business during pandemic needs cashflow)

Time

AhhHere wrote: »

Red flags so far

- Irish based business but shipping from the UK
- clearance spelt wrong on site
- only PayPal as payment option
- PayPal email spelt wrong
- inactive poster for 8 years sharing
- in site links not working correctly
- no out of sale stock
- limited brands available. (I don't see secrid wallets which were always in their window. The don't even have a wallet option in their product list)
- a deal too good to be true...

Any others?

Where are you seeing that they’re shipping from the UK?

mfceiling

You've some faith in PayPal lads.

I sold a few vouchers years ago and after I sent them PayPal withheld the payment claiming "we suspect the buyer has bought these using stolen money" ( along those lines).

I fought with PayPal for months and they told me to contact the buyer and ask him to return them. Like that was going to happen.

Very disappointed with them and have tried to avoid them as much as possible after that.

mfceiling

mfceiling wrote: »

You've some faith in PayPal lads.

I sold a few vouchers years ago and after I sent them PayPal withheld the payment claiming "we suspect the buyer has bought these using stolen money" ( along those lines).

I fought with PayPal for months and they told me to contact the buyer and ask him to return them. Like that was going to happen.

Very disappointed with them and have tried to avoid them as much as possible after that.

This wouldn't be a unique issue though. If hundreds of people buy from this website all within a week and they don't receive what they ordered, PayPal will notice the pattern and refund everyone when they get hundreds of complaints about the same website at the same time. There's not really much risk involved.

thebiglad

Ok guys and girls we can close out the concerns and back to being a bargain - just spoke to the store - it is genuine.

AhhHere

thebiglad wrote: »

Ok guys and girls we can close out the concerns and back to being a bargain - just spoke to the store - it is genuine.

Nice one. Happy you got a deal! Fair play for following up too.

clevtrev

rang the shop there and spoke to the owner. A very nice guy who is struggling to keep his head above water due to the covid shutdown. The website is supported by some 3 rd party and he is obviously struggling to get proper IT support. He says the stock tracking on the website is not working but said he would work through the orders and contact people where there were issues. He said he was hoping to ship stuff out on Friday. He got another 27 orders this morning so I wouldn't hold him to Friday !!

thebiglad

clevtrev wrote: »

rang the shop there and spoke to the owner. A very nice guy who is struggling to keep his head above water due to the covid shutdown. The website is supported by some 3 rd party and he is obviously struggling to get proper IT support. He says the stock tracking on the website is not working but said he would work through the orders and contact people where there were issues. He said he was hoping to ship stuff out on Friday. He got another 27 orders this morning so I wouldn't hold him to Friday !!

With all the calls he will get this morning I would seriously worry for Friday!

When I was on to him myself I asked about another bag I was interested in (now I know it's genuine) and he said sold last one yesterday - still shows as available so there may be some stock issues yet!

Looks like they are in fact closing down as the new banner on their page says.

curranbaz

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks like they are in fact closing down as the new banner on their page says.

Web developer still cant spell

All Deliveries €12.95 during clsoing down sale

Also when you click on Return to Merchant on PayPal it tries to bring you to this page

https://http//www.adamsonluggage.com//thank-you

Also items are still in the basket when you remove the spurious text in the URL!

Looks like he needs a few more lessons in Web Dev!

Jonesy101

dan786 wrote: »

Paypal is one of the safest ways to pay and very good to deal with if anything goes wrong.

id say he got it from the website in giant writing saying its closing down.

I wouldnt really trust a site thats closing down to send you the item or care if it gets stuck in customs etc. and obviously there wont be any returns if its closing

thebiglad

Jonesy101 wrote: »

I wouldnt really trust a site thats closing down to send you the item or care if it gets stuck in customs etc. and obviously there wont be any returns if its closing

I do note they are closing and so probably in hard times but, I dealt with this company in person a few times in pre-covid times in the store and found them to be really helpful (almost old fashioned level) and I would expect them to act decently in this or assist if anything does go wrong.

The website I guess was trying to do work they were not able for and, it clearly didn't go well.

Main concern will be stock tracking and there is likely to be orders for stock overnight where the stock just doesn't exist, we'll see how they deal with that. On facebook it said the sale will go until 4 March 2021 so they will be around for a few weeks yet.

They were an expensive, but very decent shop and sorry for them but not a lot of call for decent suitcases (at retail price) in Ireland currently...

clevtrev

Jonesy101 wrote: »

id say he got it from the website in giant writing saying its closing down.

I wouldnt really trust a site thats closing down to send you the item or care if it gets stuck in customs etc. and obviously there wont be any returns if its closing

I would agree that you are losing a lot of your consurmer rights buying from a shop that is closing but you can still have rights to claim off the manufacturer.

I am not sure where you are getting the info about customs. My understanding is that this is a local delivery not from the UK. Am I missing something?