Lance

Etc

Part one of the two part doc on BBC 2 tonight @ 10. Supposed to be a really good watch.

bazermc

I think it’s on at 11.30 not 10. At least according to my Sky. I have set to record anyway as far too late for me

Etc

bazermc wrote: »

I think it’s on at 11.30 not 10. At least according to my Sky. I have set to record anyway as far too late for me

Just checked again, 10-11:35 according to Virgin, like yourself I have it recorded anyway.

bazermc

Etc wrote: »

Just checked again, 10-11:35 according to Virgin, like yourself I have it recorded anyway.

Ah. It’s on at 10pm on regular BBC 2 and 11.30 on BBC NI

I’m going to watch the regular BBC one as the nordie accent drives me mad

Tombo2001

Lance for me a is a bit like Trump. The story was always about him. My own view would be - now that he's gone, lets keep him gone.

billyhead

Weepsie wrote: »

I presume this is the one bt sport / espn had last year?

Pile of self pitying sociopathic nonsense.

Seen it already and I'd echo this.

Etc

Weepsie wrote: »

I presume this is the one bt sport / espn had last year?

Pile of self pitying sociopathic nonsense.

Thanks for the spoiler........

crosstownk

Etc wrote: »

Thanks for the spoiler........

Hardly a spoiler given LA's rap sheet.

They're all hard to listen to. Shows some cultural differences too in how the yanks see kids and sport. Gotta find something they're good at mentality.

velo.2010

Yeah, the irony of many Americans is that they talk about personal freedom etc. yet don't realise that their lives are heavily regimented from an early age.

There was a netflix documentary I saw ..... can't recall the name it was about girls getting into the porn industry but one of them made the point that if you stay in the town you grew up and worked/took over the family business you were considered a failure ffs????? That's the mentality

Muahahaha

This is a fascinating watch, really enjoying it. ESPN really do some superb documentaries

Morris Garren

Lance Who?

Just asking

07Lapierre

Watched it last night. His 100million lawsuit was settled for 5million! Geez he got away lightly! Who says cheating doesn’t pay? :mad:

Macy0161

I'll reserve final judgement until Part 2, but didn't think part 1 was too bad. I don't recall him ever admitting that the doping may have been a factor in the cancer spread. Line up of contributors isn't going to be all positive either, but I guess that comes down to the edit.

mamax

When is part 2 on lads?

07Lapierre

February 2nd

Etc

I enjoyed part one, nothing really new in it for me but at least he doesn't hide his personality flaws.

One interesting observation for me was he team mates are all aging a lot better than him.

nc6000

I thought it was good and better than The Armstrong Lie so far. Hadn't realised how far off the pace he found himself in Europe when not taking EPO and that doping may have made his cancer worse.

Macy0161

nc6000 wrote: »

Hadn't realised how far off the pace he found himself in Europe when not taking EPO and that doping may have made his cancer worse.

I actually thought they'd show Big Mig barrelling by him, which has long been the myth as to when he decided. I think the latter, it's long been suggested, but I'm not aware of him having accepted it until this.

Johnny Jukebox

07Lapierre wrote: »

Watched it last night. His 100million lawsuit was settled for 5million! Geez he got away lightly! Who says cheating doesn’t pay? :mad:

I think the lawsuit was spurious and all about USPS saving face. They got more exposure and publicity than they could ever hoped for and I don't believe their "brand" was ever damaged by the subsequent doping disclosures - did people in Kansas really buy less stamps in 2013 because Lance took EPO in 1999 ?

ozzy jr

I enjoyed the first part.

Didn’t know much about his early family life. His step dad seemed a bit of a dick.

wrstan

I enjoyed this, but felt like there was very little new in it. It was also a bit too sympathetic to Lance for my liking. Hopefully the narrative on Part 2 will be a little less "sure everyone was doing it, Lance was just doing it better than everyone else" - I'm not that optimistic.

bazermc

ozzy jr wrote: »

I enjoyed the first part.

Didn’t know much about his early family life. His step dad seemed a bit of a dick.

Apple never falls far from the tree

nc6000

07Lapierre wrote: »

February 2nd

My Sky planner is saying part 2 is on Sunday at 11PM - BBC2

07Lapierre

nc6000 wrote: »

My Sky planner is saying part 2 is on Sunday at 11PM - BBC2

So it is! My apologies... i was sure they said the 2nd at the end of Part 1. But then, it was 1am so i was a bit tired!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08qzcr3

KaneToad

Weepsie wrote: »

I presume this is the one bt sport / espn had last year?

Pile of self pitying sociopathic nonsense.

I watched it. I can confirm the above is true.

nc6000

07Lapierre wrote: »

So it is! My apologies... i was sure they said the 2nd at the end of Part 1. But then, it was 1am so i was a bit tired!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08qzcr3

I think we're both correct - BBC2 are showing it on Sunday and it's also on BBC2 NI on the 2nd.

Part 2 starting now.

I see Ulrich mentioned at the start. I'll say this in Lance's favour at least he gave up his Olympic medal, Ulrich as far as I recall held on to his with the defence sure they were all at it I was only staying competitive. Not sure he was ever officially stripped of them?

Possibly not as it was pre puerto and him being banned in 2006.

Eamonnator

Bart Knaggs is a very handsome man.