Norma Foley Worst Minister ever?

gifted

Since she became minister she's had nothing but disaster after disaster. Latest one with FORSA on top of the back to school fiasco after Christmas.

Is she the worst minister ever?

Harry Palmr

It's a hard fought for title but she's right up there as things stand.

Masala

......... I could throw the following into the ring:

* Shane Ross
* The Beardy fella who was Minister for Health... and he was a Bloody Doctor as well! As you can see - he made a BIG impression on me.(Edit:Reilly -Thats him!)
* Eamon Ryan......and his 'pie in the sky' ideas that everyone outside the Pale should share a car when going to the shops to save the ice-caps

Slattsy

It'll be hard to ever topple Reilly.

Smee_Again

She’s in over her head anyway.

What politicking resulted in her being made a minister?

ThunbergsAreGo

gifted wrote: »

Since she became minister she's had nothing but disaster after disaster. Latest one with FORSA on top of the back to school fiasco after Christmas.

Is she the worst minister ever?

At least she fronts up and faces the media.

Leaky Roderic O Gorman is a bit of a disaster as well.

Communication to the creches during the latest lockdown has seen shambolic. Way out of his depth. Nothing from him at all.

retalivity

Smee_Again wrote: »

She’s in over her head anyway.

What politicking resulted in her being made a minister?

Daddy was a fine FF man dontchaknow...

Mary harney.....oversaw the outsourcing of cervical checks,with diastorus results

Was embroiled in several expense controversies,iirc she got tax payer to pay for a haircut,while standing on a platform of privatisation to save waste in public service

The idea that all of the nominations for worst minister ever would all come from the last six or seven years kinda shows how seriously they should be taken tbh

Start with the FF govt that crashed the country lads. Every minister since has been doing a job with the consequences of that.

Also any minister who has come to their position since the pandemic? bit of a handicap id have to say.

Now, that said, i wouldn't run to defend a single name offered above either!

RandomViewer

John Bruton,

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Smee_Again wrote: »

She’s in over her head anyway.

What politicking resulted in her being made a minister?

Her father as someone else said and being honest having a vagina can't have hurt either.

micks_address

What I find pathetic about ministers at the moment is that they will spout the government position even when they know it’s ridiculous. Case in point Norma last week schools will open come high or high water when the whole bloody country knew they wouldn’t

Harry Palmr

RandomViewer wrote: »

John Bruton,

All he did was try to tax children's clothing/footwear! Small beer in retrospect

Smee_Again

Maison Blue Handrail wrote: »

Her father as someone else said and being honest having a vagina can't have hurt either.

retalivity wrote: »

Daddy was a fine FF man dontchaknow...

I knew this but even still a freshman TD being made a minister is quite rare, only 8 others have done it.

CoBo55

Deleted User wrote: »

The idea that all of the nominations for worst minister ever would all come from the last six or seven years kinda shows how seriously they should be taken tbh

Start with the FF govt that crashed the country lads. Every minister since has been doing a job with the consequences of that.

Also any minister who has come to their position since the pandemic? bit of a handicap id have to say.

Now, that said, i wouldn't run to defend a single name offered above either!

The people did a good job of it too...
We really need to move on from this at this stage.

Fann Linn

CoBo55 wrote: »

The people did a good job of it too...
We really need to move on from this at this stage.

We should move on, but still it should never be forgotten that FF crashed the economy and the country.

nc6000

Slattsy wrote: »

It'll be hard to ever topple Reilly.

Sure sorting out health was going to be so easy to do once they made sure the money was to follow the patient. He was useless.

JPCN1

Smee_Again wrote: »

I knew this but even still a freshman TD being made a minister is quite rare, only 8 others have done it.

Needed a woman and thats all.

StupidLikeAFox

Mary Coughlan was very poor

cannotlogin

We've have/had too Mary really poor ministers/tds, she's only one of many.

Others include:-

Eoin Murphy
Stephen Connolly
Catherine Zaphone
Alan Kelly
Eamon Ryan
Shane Ross
Danny Healy Rae

Smee_Again

JPCN1 wrote: »

Needed a woman and thats all.

Doesn’t say much about the quality of the other female FF TDs.

cannotlogin

Smee_Again wrote: »

Doesn’t say much about the quality of the other female FF TDs.

If Lisa Chambers had been re-elected, I think she would have made a good minister.

DraftDodger

She's definitely a contender.

Odyssey 2005

You must have forgotten Shane Ross

kingstevii

cannotlogin wrote: »

If Lisa Chambers had been re-elected, I think she would have made a good minister.

Ooh, yea baby, she would've..

Foley also chosen to somewhat counter the Healy-Rae power down there id have thought

CoBo55

CoBo55 wrote: »

The people did a good job of it too...
We really need to move on from this at this stage.

This is a thread about worst ever ministers

I didnt just wander into yer front room and start badmouthing yer party......

Cluedo Monopoly

Dara Calleary went into a public sulk when he only got the whip position. Soon after he got Agriculture and made a monumental error of judgement one day after telling the public that Covid loves to party. He is a contender too.

RandomViewer

Good loser wrote: »

That's seriously absurd.

He's done this State some service. Balanced and intelligent in all his Irish and international politics.

Think Ray Burke, Charlie Haughey, Kevin Boland, James O Reilly etc.

He's a donkey, stalled peace process to save a couple of border seats, brought that thing Sutherland into office,

RandomViewer

cannotlogin wrote: »

We've have/had too Mary really poor ministers/tds, she's only one of many.

Others include:-

Eoin Murphy
Stephen Connolly
Catherine Zaphone
Alan Kelly
Eamon Ryan
Shane Ross
Danny Healy Rae

Was Danny a minister?

Cerveza

No body mention the fringe.

purifol0

Sorry lads is this thread "Worst Minister ever?" or just worst minister in the last year or so?

Like Bertie was a Min Finance with no bank account and CJ Haughey had several ministries that were all wrought with scandals.

Now if it we're talkin about the most incompetent Ministers - generally the ones that were kicked out as soon as they got in get a shot at that title. For that I'll nominate Barry Cowan - Min Agriculture 27 June–14 July 2020.

A short stint indeed, booted out as he never passed his driving test before being done for drunk driving while traveling across half the country every day and claiming mileage for it!

cannotlogin

RandomViewer wrote: »

Was Danny a minister?

No that's why I said ministers!😀

RandomViewer

Maybe we should throw in Atorney Generals as well,
Some real duds there

rom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Foley

Following revelations that he had held an offshore account with Ansbacher Bank to avoid tax, Denis Foley resigned from Fianna Fáil on 9 February 2000, becoming an independent TD. He had previously resigned from the Dáil Public Accounts Committee (on which he had been involved in the questioning of an official of the Ansbacher bank in which he held an undeclared deposit) and in May 2000, he became the first TD to receive a penalty for breaching the Ethics in Public Office Act 1995; he was suspended from the Dáil for 14 days.

John Delaney and his father Joe Delaney come to mind.

kingstevii

The most famous swinger, Maria Bailey!

Good loser

RandomViewer wrote: »

He's a donkey, stalled peace process to save a couple of border seats, brought that thing Sutherland into office,

We're miles apart. I'll leave you to it.

golfball37

She’s not even close to being worst minister who has held one in the current cabinet, let alone of all time.

retalivity

Ray Burke was just straight up corrupt, managed to get away with most of it but did end up being jailed for tax evasion. Also used his time as minister for communications to undermine RTE who he thought was biased against him.

Dish-honourable mentions
Pee Flynn
Liam Lawlor

For Forks Sake

In living memory, the latter part of the Cowen government saw people promoted to cabinet that you wouldn't have left in charge of a parish committee.
The stink of rank incompetence everywhere. Pretty much anyone that happened to be around Leinster House on any given day got promoted.


Take your pick, Batt O'Keefe, Eamon O'Cuiv...Mary Coughlan

Preceding that, you had the likes of Willie O'Dea and this pair of "What Bailout?" gobsh1tes.

For Forks Sake

golfball37 wrote: »

She’s not even close to being worst minister who has held one in the current cabinet, let alone of all time.

Donnelly for one is ahead of her.

jippo nolan

Cerveza wrote: »

No body mention the fringe.

Dense Dempsey?

racersedge

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

At least she fronts up and faces the media.

Leaky Roderic O Gorman is a bit of a disaster as well.

Communication to the creches during the latest lockdown has seen shambolic. Way out of his depth. Nothing from him at all.

The way O’Gorman has ignored and mishandled the early years sector in such a brief time almost makes you miss Zappone.

Almost, I say.....

RandomViewer

Who was the guy who made the original redress deal with the religious orders, he must be well up in the worst minister rankings

RandomViewer

racersedge wrote: »

The way O’Gorman has ignored and mishandled the early years sector in such a brief time almost makes you miss Zappone.

Almost, I say.....

Does.she still live here or did she go back to Seattle?

TheRiverman

She is the current number 2 worst Minister, Eamon Ryan being the worst, regaining the title he held previously.

amacca

Charlie "spend it while you've got it" mc creevy

mattser

RandomViewer wrote: »

Maybe we should throw in Atorney Generals as well,
Some real duds there

I'd bet they can spell attorney

ethical

Do not forget that those FCUKIN WASTERS have several "advisers" each that is costing us taxpayers on average €100,000 per adviser p.a.
Some of the advisers "earn" €150k+...........................

...........................................to answer your question of who is the worst minister ever.....NORMA is in the TOP 1!

RandomViewer

RandomViewer wrote: »

Who was the guy who made the original redress deal with the religious orders, he must be well up in the worst minister rankings

Michael Woods

Good catholic boy, wasnt he? Went through one of their big schools as I recall.

Wiki: In 2003, after brokering the deal, Woods claimed his strong Catholic faith made him the most suitable person to negotiate the deal.[4] He also denied allegations that he was a member of Opus Dei or the Knights of Saint Columbanus after the group Survivors of Child Abuse alleged he was a member of the former

TheRiverman

Martin Cullen has to be well up the worst Minister chart, remember the voting machines fiasco.