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Twitter's alleged bias towards left-wing trolls.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,632 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Bambi wrote: »
    Full on capitalism, don't remember ever mentioning it. Sounds like a bad idea to me.

    Always telling when an Orwell quote stings someone, though.
    Never said you did, but most of those agreeing with your post would be the first to complain about any other kind of state interference with a private company.

    I'm sure the man who fought for the POUM would be turning in his grave if he knew who was using his quotes nowadays


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Conservatives whingeing about the free market.


    Beautiful.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 285 ✭✭Hellokitty1212


    Acosta wrote: »
    What did she say that was racist?

    Twitter can ban whoever it wants. It's their business. But there's plenty of very racist Irish far right accounts still active on twitter by the looks of it.

    She’s on record saying every Irish person is racist and the more we deny we are racist the worse we are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Then surely it was a cornerstone of fascism when OAN and Fox news were in massive support of Trump and pushed his agendas?

    Fox News itself is the largest news network in the US and has the largest viewership.

    Sure i'll go along with that. Difference is i suppose that Fox, while large, is nowhere close to having a monopoly.

    Google/Facebook/Twitter have a monopoly over the internet and are all of the same political stamp...the same stamp as the POTUS.

    I hope i'm wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭.anon.


    She’s on record saying every Irish person is racist and the more we deny we are racist the worse we are.

    Do you have any links to that?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31 Dafterss


    Twitter bias should not matter in ireland as we are very center not left wing or right wing
    The right wing are more vocal and violent in america in ireland there are very few right wing or left wing


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,674 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Conservatives whingeing about the free market.


    Beautiful.

    Leftists making gross simplifications:

    Classic.

    It was a Republician president, T. Rooseevlt that put in place the key Anti-trust provisions that kept in check the equivalent of Big-Tech back in the day from abusing their dominant free market position: Just as Apple, Google and Twitter are doing now.
    But try not to let historical context intrude into that hermatic world view.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Then surely it was a cornerstone of fascism when OAN and Fox news were in massive support of Trump and pushed his agendas?

    Fox News itself is the largest news network in the US and has the largest viewership.

    Very interesting that only example you have is FOX and some other channel no-one has heard of, stacked against all the social media giants.

    And the social media giants are where the corporate power lies now, not only controlling social media but controlling the ability to access social media.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Conservatives whingeing about the free market.


    Beautiful.

    Bit weird to think that monopolies stifling competition is something the free market types would be in favour of. Sure twas Mr Free Markets himself, the bould Ronnie Reagan, who broke up the previous communication monopoly that was stifling the telephony market in the US.

    Monopolies tend to be more a feature of authoritarian regimes. Marx was a bit of a fan of them :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Bambi wrote: »
    Very interesting that only example you have is FOX and some other channel no-one has heard of, stacked against all the social media giants.

    And the social media giants are where the corporate power lies now, not only controlling social media but controlling the ability to access social media.

    Trump literally tweeted repeatedly about OAN and promoted it, it may be smaller but he's been pushing it for a long time now.

    They're private companies, they set their own policies. It's the whole bakery thing all over again. America has always promoted a free market, and the Republicans have always pushed for low Government interference. Suddenly that's become a problem for them.


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  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I see that the Ayatollah Khomeini is still on twitter. Modi as well. They did ban Orban or his party for a while.

    What will probably happen now is that many countries will create their own social media.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    I see that the Ayatollah Khomeini is still on twitter. Modi as well. They did ban Orban or his party for a while.

    What will probably happen now is that many countries will create their own social media.

    In all honesty, the sooner Facebook/Google and Twitter are broken up the better, they should never have been allowed to get to the size they are today.

    Twitter are in trouble anyway, they were dying a death back in 2015 until a certain reality star came down an escalator and the rest is history, they offer a poor advertising platform, they have struggled to monetize, I see a buyout in the near future.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Trump literally tweeted repeatedly about OAN and promoted it, it may be smaller but he's been pushing it for a long time now.

    They're private companies, they set their own policies. It's the whole bakery thing all over again. America has always promoted a free market, and the Republicans have always pushed for low Government interference. Suddenly that's become a problem for them.

    Definite hypocrisy there of course. But on both sides, because if you believe that the Government should interfere in Cakes then maybe Government should interfere in social media, by making the companies unbiased carriers not publishers. I think that is the debate on section 230 in the US.


    Maybe that horse has bolted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I see that the Ayatollah Khomeini is still on twitter. Modi as well. They did ban Orban or his party for a while.
    Yeah but they're not held to the same standard obviously. The CCP have multiple checkmarked accounts while carrying out genocide and sending people to gulags but then the CCP are not political opponents of Jack Dorsey.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,499 ✭✭✭✭Sand


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    This is pretty much why US conservatives have to get over their hangups about 'big government' and get comfortable with regulating private interests. Free speech was an 18th century cause when the public square was owned by the government and they might prevent you from speaking there. The fanatical defense of private interests (including free speech) made sense in that context. Personal liberty and private interests were natural allies against big government.

    But in the 21st century the public square (social media) is owned by private interests and free speech adherents need to align with big government which can tame private interests. Now personal liberty and big government are natural allies against private interests.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Sand wrote: »
    This is pretty much why US conservatives have to get over their hangups about 'big government' and get comfortable with regulating private interests.

    Both Republicans and Democrats were comfortable with breaking up monopolies until the monopolies started lining their pockets


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Then surely it was a cornerstone of fascism when OAN and Fox news were in massive support of Trump and pushed his agendas?

    Fox News itself is the largest news network in the US and has the largest viewership.

    its the largest cable news network , not the largest network overall


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,499 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Bambi wrote: »
    Both Republicans and Democrats were comfortable with breaking up monopolies until the monopolies started lining their pockets

    Agreed, it isnt a Reps vs. Dems issue. Indeed, there isnt any major disagreement between those two parties. US elections are forcing Americans to choose between Coke and Diet Coke. When ultimately the profits go to the same owners.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Twitter/Facebook jumped the shark when they suppressed the Hunter Biden stuff. Their reasoning was absolutely tosh, something nowhere near consistent to the past and since then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,547 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Kathy Griffin's tweet which she reposted a couple of days a go including Trump's decapitated blooded head doesn't even have so much as a warning on it never mind being removed.

    Twitter were 100% correct to ban Trump and should have done it long a go.

    However, to leave violent Tweets like Griffin's up is very hypocritical in my opinion.

    That's not 'art', it's disgusting.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Kathy Griffin is a sideshow.

    Twitter have literal genocidal despots with verified accounts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,342 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    If Kathy Griffin is your idea of a "left winger" it just shows the bubble you are currently in.

    Twitter has removed thousands of actual left wing accounts
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-49683029
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/twitter-china-removing-disinformation-1.5610073
    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/twitter-political-account-ban-us-mid-term-elections


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    Jack Dorsey posted this after Parler was banned from Google and Amazon is suspending Parler tonight. Parler was the most popular download before its ban. Social media is now a left-wing oligarchy and Jack isn't trying to hide it.

    https://twitter.com/jack/status/1348139031599595522


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭francois


    Jack Dorsey posted this after Parler was banned from Google and Amazon is suspending Parler tonight. Parler was the most popular download before its ban. Social media is now a left-wing oligarchy and Jack isn't trying to hide it.

    https://twitter.com/jack/status/1348139031599595522

    Hyperbolic and hysteric.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    whats goin on with big tech is disgraceful. it wont be long before employees of google,twitter etc are targeted directly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    There seems to be a big purge going on right now on Twitter.

    Jack Dorsey is like a bouncer at a club.
    There are people at the club he don't like.
    He tells them to leave, but he also rings all other clubs down the street so they can't get in there either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,242 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    biko wrote: »
    There seems to be a big purge going on right now on Twitter.

    Jack Dorsey is like a bouncer at a club.
    There are people at the club he don't like.
    He tells them to leave, but he also rings all other clubs down the street so they can't get in there either.

    Who was removed from Twitter?


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Shares of Twitter were down more than 2% in after-hours trading, moving lower after the company said it was permanently suspending U.S. President Donald Trump’s account.

    Shares of the stock recently traded at $50.20, down 2.4% from the closing price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,986 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Conservatives whingeing about the free market.


    Beautiful.

    What free market?
    This week put the lie to that and the left's constantly refrain of:
    "It's a private company, they're not obligated to platform you, if you don't like it, make your own Twitter!"
    Conservatives create Parlor
    Lefty whingebags: "you can't do that, Google and Apple ban that app!"

    Where is the free market in a tech oligopoly that shuts down any competing business?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko




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