January Running Challenge

shotgunmcos

Happy January all Running Boardsies

Seeing how good, fun and important for the forum the TT threads were last year, and we are looking so far at a grim start to 2021 with no events on the horizon. (who is doing the first TT thread this year? )

So for January, a simple challenge

How well do you know you own effort, pace? How in tune are you with your body, rhythm?

Run a route and finish it bang on an hour without looking at your watch! Post your effort on this thread.

Or in other words, start the watch, just run and guess when its an hour, stop the watch and see what it actually is. ReeGee and Dudda below brought clarity to this!

Save your run and post the link to your strava or screen shot or whatever. How close can you get?!!

Multiple attempts allowed
Run any speed you like, open to all.
Closest to 1:00:00 wins
If we have multiple perfect or 59:59 efforts, I'll do a pole to select a winner.

If you have just started running and an hour is a bit far, try 30 minutes.

Just a bit of fun!
Shotgun

Murph_D

Why the kudos for progression? Is that one of the goals?

shotgunmcos

Murph_D wrote: »

Why the kudos for progression? Is that one of the goals?

Well some people took a couple of attempts on the 5k last year :P

Lets say you made an attempt and arrived back at your starting point in 56 minutes. Happy enough with that, but you felt you could get closer so you try again and get 58 mins. I'd be interested in what you did differently the next time..

I'll compile results but if we have 10 people all with a 59:59 then a poll and some context may give us a winner.

ReeReeG

So you have to run and guess when its been an hour?? (Sorry, I'm a bit slow...in more ways than one )

shotgunmcos

ReeReeG wrote: »

So you have to run and guess when its been an hour?? (Sorry, I'm a bit slow...in more ways than one )

You are certainly not slow! Sort of. Go for an hour total run.
Start the watch and cover it. Run your "hour run route" and stop your watch.

So if you generally run 10km in an hour, pick a 10km route or your regular route that takes you an hour ish. Start the watch and resits looking at it for teh whole run. Stop it when you finish and see what you got.

ReeReeG

Gotcha. Eventually!

Murph_D

ReeReeG wrote: »

So you have to run and guess when its been an hour?? (Sorry, I'm a bit slow...in more ways than one )

I didn’t pick up on it that way either so I’m slow too! Good idea - get it now.

Dudda

I understand now too. Didn't after the first post. Below is one route I run from strava 'matched runs'. The goal (for me) would be to run this and try and finish it bang on the hour without looking at the watch. That's going to be very hard. If I got within a minute I'd be happy as generally when you overthink things in a challenge like this you speed up or slow down to much.

Annie get your Run

shotgunmcos wrote: »

You are certainly not slow! Sort of. Go for an hour total run.
Start the watch and cover it. Run your "hour run route" and stop your watch.

So if you generally run 10km in an hour, pick a 10km route or your regular route that takes you an hour ish. Start the watch and resits looking at it for teh whole run. Stop it when you finish and see what you got.

What do you mean see what you got? Is the goal here to run for as close to 60 minutes as you can purely by going on feel for pace? So plan a 10k (or 9K if that's what an hours running gets me) route and go and run it but try not to come back in 55 or 65 minutes?

Sounds good to me!

Edit: Dudda's post above explains it perfectly, this is gonna be fun!

Is there a date/date range to do this in?

shotgunmcos

Annie get your Run wrote: »

Is there a date/date range to do this in?

End of January! So Jan 31 Hopefully another idea will pop up by then for Feb.

Apologies to all if my rambling opening post was confusing

Thank you Dudda!!

Dudda

shotgunmcos wrote: »

End of January! So Jan 31 Hopefully another idea will pop up by then for Feb.

Apologies to all if my rambling opening post was confusing

Thank you Dudda!!

Your welcome. Good idea.

So we can have multiple attempts then?

BeginnerRunner

So see how far you can run in an hour?

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...that works a lot better when you can see the emoji as a troll face.

shotgunmcos

Dudda wrote: »

Your welcome. Good idea.

So we can have multiple attempts then?

Yes multiple attempts

BeginnerRunner wrote: »

So see how far you can run in an hour?

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...that works a lot better when you can see the emoji as a troll face.

No need for that kind of pain :eek:

shotgunmcos

Just occurred to me. If you get pace alerts on your earphones when you run, you will need to leave them at home for this challenge!

Dubh Geannain

I'll set the bar low with my 01:03:00 last night.

I don't exactly have an actual hour run route but gave it a go. It mostly involved laps of a half frozen field with my headtorch on. Still safer than the paths which I had to run on a little getting there. I'd an idea I'd end up around 13 km in an hour so was counting the laps which I don't have an exact measurement for but are a little over 1 km each. 13.3 km was what I covered so I wasn't far off my distance estimate. More normal conditions I might be closer to the hour for the same effort level.

shotgunmcos

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

I'll set the bar low with my 01:03:00 last night.

I don't exactly have an actual hour run route but gave it a go. It mostly involved laps of a half frozen field with my headtorch on. Still safer than the paths which I had to run on a little getting there. I'd an idea I'd end up around 13 km in an hour so was counting the laps which I don't have an exact measurement for but are a little over 1 km each. 13.3 km was what I covered so I wasn't far off my distance estimate. More normal conditions I might be closer to the hour for the same effort level.

Do you often run on feel? Pretty decent pace to be running around a field in the dark! Thanks for kicking off the challenge.

Unthought Known

Can I start with my 59:50 from last night? Current plan has a few more 7m easy runs this month so I'll see how close I can get.

Dubh Geannain

shotgunmcos wrote: »

Do you often run on feel? Pretty decent pace to be running around a field in the dark! Thanks for kicking off the challenge.

It was all I did until I finally got a smartwatch for Christmas last year (2019). I still do on easy runs.

spc78

Starting and finishing underneath the local Clock Tower would seem to be the equivalent of selecting a downhill route for the TT?

shotgunmcos

Unthought Known wrote: »

Can I start with my 59:50 from last night? Current plan has a few more 7m easy runs this month so I'll see how close I can get.

:eek: Thats DAMN close already!! Almost unbelievably so..

So you didn't look at the watch at all, no alerts.. nothing? 59:50 purely on feel :eek:

Unthought Known

shotgunmcos wrote: »

:eek: Thats DAMN close already!! Almost unbelievably so..

So you didn't look at the watch at all, no alerts.. nothing? 59:50 purely on feel :eek:

Didn't look at all until I stopped the watch. Wasn't really a constant pace either, I just went with the hills etc.
It was pure luck as I was just running the route. I probably won't get that close again.

BeginnerRunner

There's absolutely no way you'll believe this.

But today, on my run, I opened my strava app at EXACTLY 30m 00s Like exactly...

...HOWEVER...

It was on my phone in a freetrain vest and it got stuck on the way out, so I spent a good 6-8 seconds longer than I anticipated getting it checked.

So I guess I lucked my way to 30m 00s and the actual intended time was probably closer to 29m 54s. But I'll take it regardless ��

Murph_D

https://www.strava.com/activities/4593090544

Had a stab at this today. I know from marathon training that the middle of the easy range, which is more or less my default easy pace, is about 5:41/km (9:09/mi). So I set out to hit this pace - main question was where to turn. After some some quick (and unfortunately wrong) mental arithmetic, I decided I had to do turn after about 5.4 kms. I had a fair idea where this would leave me but the maths were a bit off. Even though my run was bang on 5:41/km it was a bit long at 10.82 kms and came in at 1:01:25.

Had a feeling towards the end it was going to be long. In my defence it was a bit of a stressful run with the amount of walkers to avoid so I wasn't quite able to get into the zone (hence the bad maths).

shotgunmcos

http://strava.app.link/PXB8OaTMUcb

Gave this challenge a go tonight. Dark freezing fog and icy paths. Took ages just to warmup and settle into a mis aerobic effort. Figured it was around 5min kms give or take. Thing is, last time I did this route I used miles. I knew where 3 and 4 miles were so it was a decision where to turn. 3 miles too short, 4 too long.

Was going over the maths, when I had to step off a path after the bridge out of town. Nearly fell on my ass. Onto a grassy trail that felt like sharp stone. Decided to hop out onto the road altogether. Settled back to math. About 12k was probably it. No alerts so I had to figure it out.

More math. I know my stride length. After 5k tried to divide 1,000 by it and count steps! Before I had it figured out, realised I probably went too far. Picked up a little on the way home. 59:07 by Strava or 59:05 by Garmin. Brain fried!

skyblue46

shotgunmcos wrote: »

http://strava.app.link/PXB8OaTMUcb

Gave this challenge a go tonight. Dark freezing fog and icy paths. Took ages just to warmup and settle into a mis aerobic effort. Figured it was around 5min kms give or take. Thing is, last time I did this route I used miles. I knew where 3 and 4 miles were so it was a decision where to turn. 3 miles too short, 4 too long.

Was going over the maths, when I had to step off a path after the bridge out of town. Nearly fell on my ass. Onto a grassy trail that felt like sharp stone. Decided to hop out onto the road altogether. Settled back to math. About 12k was probably it. No alerts so I had to figure it out.

More math. I know my stride length. After 5k tried to divide 1,000 by it and count steps! Before I had it figured out, realised I probably went too far. Picked up a little on the way home. 59:07 by Strava or 59:05 by Garmin. Brain fried!

That thing of stride counting is interesting but so difficult to get right. I did a run today with a sride length of 1m, cadence 175. 2 days ago a run with a stride length of 99cm and a cadence of 172. They sound quite close together but one is 9.11 pace, the other 9.26. That's 90 seconds over the hour...

Dudda

Dudda wrote: »

I understand now too. Didn't after the first post. Below is one route I run from strava 'matched runs'. The goal (for me) would be to run this and try and finish it bang on the hour without looking at the watch. That's going to be very hard. If I got within a minute I'd be happy as generally when you overthink things in a challenge like this you speed up or slow down to much.

So I gave this a go yesterday. The previous run which was under an hour back in October I had stopped to talk to a friend so knew I had to push it a tiny bit based on the last few runs just over the hour. When starting I set the watch to Heart Rate so couldn't see the time and pulled the long sleeve top over the watch. It's crazy how used to looking at the watch I am as I glanced at it so often but then remembered when it was covered. When I was stopping and pulled back the sleeve I couldn't see the time either as it was still on the Heart Rate screen so didn't see the time until I pressed stop. I was delighted. No way did I think I'd get within 17 seconds and Garmin says 16. I think it's pure luck as I had ice in areas and a bit of a headwind for 2km. I intend to do it over the next few Saturdays (need daylight for route so no chance midweek) to see how close they are but can't see myself getting closer than this.

Huzzah!

Tried this today. I didn't need to do any great mental arithmetic - I have a route that's approx 5 miles that takes me approximately an hour (yep, I'm very slow) at my easy pace.

It's the two "approximates" that caught me out. I can change the route up ever so slightly by changing the left turn I take off the North Road IN the PP. I think I actually knew when to stop, but pushed it on little bit further and ended up a good bit over. I did it in 1.01.10.

Plenty of January left to get it right Thanks, Shotgun, for setting up the challenge.

shotgunmcos

Folks don't forget to include links for validation! Just a bit of fun but I'll do a 1-10 or more if we have them at the end of the month. Let's say if you link, you are in. If no link or evidence, you are not competing? What is competing anyway? Dive over to the other thread for that chat lol 😆

A poll perhaps to sort positions if needed.

IF the appetite is there for a Feb challenge and beyond perhaps I'll suggest a points system and a league for a December double points challenge.

Won't make it any more complex than it needs to be. If its good and there are more than 1 suggestion for a Feb Challenge, a poll or most likes to do it. Ill keep all suggestions for other months. I already have a couple of ideas up my sleeve.

Only if the appetite is there. Happy to do the work.

shotgunmcos

Huzzah! wrote: »

Tried this today. I didn't need to do any great mental arithmetic - I have a route that's approx 5 miles that takes me approximately an hour (yep, I'm very slow) at my easy pace.

It's the two "approximates" that caught me out. I can change the route up ever so slightly by changing the left turn I take off the North Road IN the PP. I think I actually knew when to stop, but pushed it on little bit further and ended up a good bit over. I did it in 1.01.10.

Plenty of January left to get it right Thanks, Shotgun, for setting up the challenge.

Good first attempt. Just 70sec off and plenty of Jan left. As I said I'll keep it casual. As many attempts as you like and best effort for the finish.

Every time you rerun that route you now have a little challenge for yourself. That was the point.

Thanks for participating!

shotgunmcos

skyblue46 wrote: »

That thing of stride counting is interesting but so difficult to get right. I did a run today with a sride length of 1m, cadence 175. 2 days ago a run with a stride length of 99cm and a cadence of 172. They sound quite close together but one is 9.11 pace, the other 9.26. That's 90 seconds over the hour...

So instead of counting strides for long, you just need to figure out what cadence you are at. Try count that and 60 sec simultaneously to figure that out though!!

dna_leri

Had a go at this on my long run today.
I have a "30 min trail run" I regularly do, so it was well suited.
Did 2 laps yesterday in the ice in around 32 mins each but conditions were better today - not much ice but sloppy.
I did a calibration lap first - did not check the watch until the lap was done and hit 6.1K in 30:43 - not bad.
Picked it up a little on the next lap and clicked the watch as I went round but avoided the temptation to look - felt about right.
First half of the lap is fairly flat so picked it up again here as I knew I would fade on the hillier 2nd half.
Pushed a little on the final stretch as I thought I slowed too much.
Then checked the watch - 30:12 + 29:53 = 60:05 - better than I expected
I have not uploaded to Strava so I'll try again next week.
Helps to keep the solo long runs interesting.

Murph_D

https://strava.app.link/Q4tGnNlVXcb

Second attempt. A good bit better at 1:00:24. Again, exactly right effort wise according to HR bit I think the slight headwind on the way home, along with some awkward road crossings in the last mile, were responsible for the overshoot. I always have an excuse.

Laineyfrecks

Murph_D wrote: »

I always have an excuse.

Something we both have in common:P

Swashbuckler

An absolutely miserable attempt of 56.57.

Turned off the mile alerts. Had a rough idea of a 7.5mile ish route. Set out at 8min/mile feel. Turns out I was running closer to 7.45ish and the route was shorter than I thought.

To compound matters I should have been running easier after a 14M yesterday but wanted to self indulge a bit with the challenge today... I guess I can recover tomorrow. Lol. Scott Faubles biggest fanboy won't be impressed!

BeginnerRunner

BeginnerRunner wrote: »

There's absolutely no way you'll believe this.

But today, on my run, I opened my strava app at EXACTLY 30m 00s Like exactly...

...HOWEVER...

It was on my phone in a freetrain vest and it got stuck on the way out, so I spent a good 6-8 seconds longer than I anticipated getting it checked.

So I guess I lucked my way to 30m 00s and the actual intended time was probably closer to 29m 54s. But I'll take it regardless ��

Tried again on a route I don't normally run... (first mistake)

27min 40sec
56min 37sec

Awful. Not even gonna try authenticate that sh1t.

Pherekydes

Tried today. Picked a route that corresponded to approx 1 hour easy running. 8.1k. Didn't realise how out of shape I am. 64:14. I'll try again next week.

shotgunmcos

Pherekydes wrote: »

Tried today. Picked a route that corresponded to approx 1 hour easy running. 8.1k. Didn't realise how out of shape I am. 64:14. I'll try again next week.

Not many out of shape people can run for 64 minutes. Thanks for taking part!

ReeReeG

Damn I'm really good at this game. Snip20210114_4.png

Laineyfrecks

ReeReeG wrote: »

Damn I'm really good at this game. Snip20210114_4.png

Love it

ReeReeG

ReeReeG wrote: »

Damn I'm really good at this game. Snip20210114_4.png

For the record, I did attempt this properly. No looking at the watch (had it switched to HR anyway just in case I was tempted) and turned off the mile alerts. Concentrated hard on keeping it easy by feel, and assumed I would speed up as usual but I didn't. I think I can trust myself more on how it feels than I realised! 1:01:10. Will definitely try again before the month is out..


https://www.strava.com/activities/4620758379

Kander

I gave it ago last night. The temptation to look was endless.

I know I'm usually close to it at the end of this loop depending on traffic lights and people. 59m 36s

Not gonna get closer than that it was fluke

Wubble Wubble

I think I may have discovered a candidate route for this one . Busy enough with traffic in places, so hard to judge accurately

shotgunmcos

Just a summary of best results so far. Let me know if I missed any. 2 weeks to go so plenty of time to have a go or improve.

Only validated attempts will count for final rank

Validated (Pic or link provided)
Unknown Unthought -10sec
Dudda +17sec
Kander -24sec
Murph_D +24sec
Shotgunmcos -55sec
ReeReeG +1min 10sec

Not Validated
dna_leri +5sec
Huzzah +1min 10sec
Dubh Gannon +3min
Swashbuckler -3min 3sec
BeginnerRunner -3min 23sec
Pheredykes +4min 14sec

Swashbuckler

Do i need to validate my ball of sh*te attempt??

Huzzah!

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Do i need to validate my ball of sh*te attempt??

Exactly why I didn't validate mine - I didn't think it was worth validating

shotgunmcos

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Do i need to validate my ball of sh*te attempt??

If its your only attempt... yeah. Otherwise have another go

If I get 20+ participants I might create a league table.

Then roll into the February Challenge that I have in mind already But only if the appetite is there (or someone has a better idea) :cool:

Swashbuckler

shotgunmcos wrote: »

If its your only attempt... yeah. Otherwise have another go

If I get 20+ participants I might create a league table.

Then roll into the February Challenge that I have in mind already But only if the appetite is there (or someone has a better idea) :cool:

I'll probably have another go..............

fair play to you for driving the ideas.

skyblue46

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I'll probably have another go..............

fair play to you for driving the ideas.

I did it today...thought I was a bit slow so sprinted the last 100m and ended up at 59:53

Swashbuckler

skyblue46 wrote: »

I did it today...thought I was a bit slow so sprinted the last 100m and ended up at 59:53

Putting me to shame S.

skyblue46

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Putting me to shame S.

Pure fluke P...thats why I didn't enter. I haven't run with time or distance on my watch since I last did sessions...

Swashbuckler

skyblue46 wrote: »

Pure fluke P...thats why I didn't enter. I haven't run with time or distance on my watch since I last did sessions...

Anyone that thinks they did it out of skill and not fluke is lying! So its a valid attempt that should be verified and official!!