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Ulster vs Munster, Sat 2nd Jan 5:15pm, Eir Sport 1

  • 01-01-2021 11:55am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭


    Ulster:
    (15-9) Jacob Stockdale, Matt Faddes, James Hume, Stuart McCloskey, Ethan McIlroy, Billy Burns, John Cooney;
    (1-8) Eric O’Sullivan, Rob Herring, Marty Moore, Kieran Treadwell, Sam Carter (Capt.), Matty Rea, David McCann, Nick Timoney.

    Replacements: Adam McBurney, Callum Reid, Tom O’Toole, David O’Connor, Marcell Coetzee, Nathan Doak, Ian Madigan, Ben Moxham.

    Munster:
    Shane Daly; Calvin Nash, Dan Goggin, Rory Scannell, Liam Coombes; Ben Healy, Craig Casey;
    Liam O’Connor, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Fineen Wycherley, Billy Holland (c); Jack O’Donoghue, Chris Cloete, Jack O’Sullivan.

    Replacements: Rhys Marshall, Dave Kilcoyne, Roman Salanoa, Thomas Ahern, Tommy O’Donnell, Nick McCarthy, Jack Crowley, Darren Sweetnam.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    So Munster sending a largely 2nd choice 15 whereas Ulster are close enough to full strength.

    Big ask for Munster, McCloskey did a load of damage in this game last year

    Kilcoyne, N.Scannell, L.Coombes, and Crowley all due to play for the first time this season

    14 out of the starting 15 are "homegrown" players and all 23 are IQ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I knew none of the frontline internationals would take part, but I thought it would be a stronger side. No Kleyn, Conway or JJ for example.

    It's great to get Kilcoyne and Scannell back from injury. It's a big game for Scannell as his form wasn't great prior to his injury. KOB and Marshall have done well in his absence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,874 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    I make that 9 IQ players 24 or under in the Ulster 23?

    Stockdale
    McIlroy
    Hume
    McCann
    Reid
    McBurney
    O'Toole
    Doak
    Moxham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭launish116


    yerrahbah wrote: »
    So Munster sending a largely 2nd choice 15 whereas Ulster are close enough to full strength.

    Big ask for Munster, McCloskey did a load of damage in this game last year

    Kilcoyne, N.Scannell, L.Coombes, and Crowley all due to play for the first time this season

    14 out of the starting 15 are "homegrown" players and all 23 are IQ

    Ulster have a lot of youth in the team.

    If I was Munster I’d be wanting a Ulster win and keep fingers crossed for some magic next week. I’m sure Munster would prefer us than Leinster in the final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,600 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    bilston wrote: »
    I make that 9 IQ players 24 or under in the Ulster 23?

    Stockdale
    McIlroy
    Hume
    McCann
    Reid
    McBurney
    O'Toole
    Doak
    Moxham

    I think it's a fantastic mix. Some of our best players and internationals to try to get us over the line, Academy players McCann and McIlroy starting, two more Academy players (in badly-needed positions) potentially making debuts off the bench.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    All attention on next week as expected but getting the injured players back (N Scannell, Kilcoyne, Healy and L Coombes) is great. Kilcoyne's return is timely with Cronin out.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,084 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Gav Coombes omission solidifying his place in the first choice 15, if there was any doubt. Well deserved given the season he’s had. I wonder could he feature in the 6N (maybe against Italy) at this rate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    I don't think there's any question over Coombes spot in the backrow.

    It's a big opportunity for Daly. The injury and Ireland callup have seen Mike Haley nail down the 15 shirt for the time being.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    I don't think there's any question over Coombes spot in the backrow.

    It's a big opportunity for Daly. The injury and Ireland callup have seen Mike Haley nail down the 15 shirt for the time being.

    Daly should be targeting 13 anyway, not the back 3 IMO

    Edit: wondering now what a 15 Scannell, 13 Daly, 12 Goggin could be like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Daly should be targeting 13 anyway, not the back 3 IMO

    Edit: wondering now what a 15 Scannell, 13 Daly, 12 Goggin could be like.

    I think his best opportunity will be in the back three. Earls has maybe one season left after this one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    I think McCloskey will be looking to test Healys shoulder at every opportunity

    The 9-10-12 combination of Casey, Healy and Scannell will have their work cut out for them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    If Munster actually wanted a chance of a win, they'd just have to add a bit of experience in the right areas, they haven't so I wouldn't expect to see them winning.

    Very light in the back 5 pack-wise, which means Ulster will be looking to maul any chance they get. Very young back 3 too. Centre looks like another weak area that Ulster could exploit.

    Starting Niall Scannell instead of off the bench also seems a bit bonkers to me. I'd only be looking to give him a 20 minute run out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Scannell was at the presser for the Leinster game so he was going to be involved. Add in an extra week's training and it's not a surprise to see him start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Scannell was at the presser for the Leinster game so he was going to be involved. Add in an extra week's training and it's not a surprise to see him start.

    I saw the presser, doesn't make a difference to my opinion. He will be blowing hard after 5 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    Anyway of watching this live other then Eir? Coming up unavailable on Premier Sports


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Interesting decision for Ulster not to start 15 Chris Farrell's on Eir Sport this week, after how well he did last week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭Paul Weller


    I hope that Healy & Casey have cracking games today...can't see is winning, but hopefully we keep it close


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,827 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Starting Cloete is essentially a guarantee of penalty concessions.

    The dude never learns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Lovely score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭AlfaZen


    Pass from Stockdale looked a touch forward


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Lovely score.

    Lovely, slick passing aside from Stockdale who owes Faddes a beer for gathering that pig of a pass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    AlfaZen wrote: »
    Pass from Stockdale looked a touch forward

    thought the same myself but good move nonetheless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Buer wrote: »
    Lovely, slick passing aside from Stockdale who owes Faddes a beer for gathering that pig of a pass.

    Agreed, and there was a second one later from Faddes in a similar position that was a rocket too. Soften it a bit.

    Second lovely score for Ulster there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭launish116


    McIlroy looks very sharp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Kraftwerk


    Billy Burns is a shrewd operator. No hesitation and always a threat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    That lineout prior to the Mcilroy break was ridiculously squint. Caught in an Ulster left hand.


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    Absolutely no effort there to roll away - was so obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,691 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Really not a fan of Cloete. Good on the deck but every other aspect of his game is average.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Adamson is letting Ulster hold on to the ball for a long time at every ruck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Adamson is letting Ulster hold on to the ball for a long time at every ruck.

    Timoney robs one after Munster release on the floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,600 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Best young player on the pitch that half was McIlroy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Munster got very lucky to be given that penalty at the end at the scrum, could have been even more behind


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    "Tea or Coffee"

    "No Robbo - I'm gonna have a pizza"

    Did Ferris just announce a signing there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Impressive physicality on both sides of the ball from the Ulster back line. Hammering into contact, making yards and tossing Munster backs out of rucks.

    This is the best I've seen from Hume in some time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Robbo..... SHUT UP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    "Tea or Coffee"

    "No Robbo - I'm gonna have a pizza"

    Did Ferris just announce a signing there?

    Meaning who?


  • Administrators Posts: 54,405 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Munster got very lucky to be given that penalty at the end at the scrum, could have been even more behind

    I thought the first offence was that Scannell didn't hook it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    Munster making far too many basic errors and can't get a foot in the game. Still not over from them I feel, think they'll come out better in the second half. Back three and centre defence are particularly to blame.

    Ulster going well, the backs looking dangerous with Burns being a standout, and the forwards are carrying with conviction. Would like to see them ruck faster, don't let Munster get a sniff of a turnover.

    McIlroy has shown a bit of everything - good under the high ball, defended very well, carried down his line dangerously as well.

    McCann has done ok, one carry made me think he can mix it at this level, but it's obviously not his main role. Don't think he's an openside at all, not quick enough or savy enough at the breakdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,874 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Very impressed by Ethan McIlroy in that half. Billy Burns going well too.

    Still plenty in the game for Munster though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    awec wrote: »
    I thought the first offence was that Scannell didn't hook it again.

    Yeah. Munster were in trouble right across the front row there.

    If they are still struggling on their own put in in the second half it’ll be a huge target for Ulster


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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Meaning who?

    I didn't hear the name, Ferris said something along the lines of "did you hear xxxxx was coming up next season".

    Sometimes the streams keep the sound on a little longer than the broadcasters do. They were chatting about what they were eating at half time. Ferris was having a pizza!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    I didn't hear the name, Ferris said something along the lines of "did you hear xxxxx was coming up next season".

    Sometimes the streams keep the sound on a little longer than the broadcasters do. They were chatting about what they were eating at half time. Ferris was having a pizza!

    Nucifora, I’m pretty sure he said


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,084 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Ulster comfortably better and a bit unlucky not to be further ahead. Billy Burns looking pretty sharp.

    Robbo and Ferris fairly annoying on comms...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Robson is possibly the most annoying person this island has ever produced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Do you know the priest in the closet in father Ted who talks to himself. “What is your favourite humming noise”

    That is Robson


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    That Hume is having a lovely match


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Robson is possibly the most annoying person this island has ever produced

    Consistently too. At least we don’t have to hear about Jack McGrath’s Kevlar thumb 12 times over the 80 mins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Adamson is just blind to rucks, JOS had to wrestle for an age to get a turnover and then there’s a cluster**** where he guesses scrum Ulster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭launish116


    Coetzee & Reid on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    JOS is nowhere near the standard required.


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