George Nkencho shooting *Mod warning Added to OP*

Bonniedog

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/man-dies-after-being-shot-by-garda%C3%AD-following-standoff-in-co-dublin-1.4447470

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Discussion of the George Floyd murder is off topic, can we please stick to Irish matters in this thread

Mod warning added 11pm 31/12

Beasty wrote: »

Discuss the incident, not wider issues/concerns. We've enough grief with the way the thread has gone without people trying to open this up into a wider discussion on immigration and race

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brilou23

Was he not swinging a knife at the cops. If he was it's justified IMO.

The OP is surely a joke?

And would you not post a link rather than a ****e joke.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/man-dies-after-being-shot-by-garda%C3%AD-following-standoff-in-co-dublin-1.4447470

Eric Cartman

All reports state he had a knife, absolutely justified

This is the most comprehensive report so far : https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/knifeman-dies-garda-shooting-clonee-19539935

Your Face

Bad situation for all involved.

SEPT 23 1989

It will be interesting to see how the media handle this in the next few days

Telly

He stabbed the manager of the shop then tried to stab the cops. I’ve seen the videos. He was a danger and needed to be stopped. He should have dropped the knife. But he didn’t and now he’s dead. One less robbing scumbag on the streets!

Meh. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

.anon.

Bit early to say (a) that it's our George Floyd moment, or (b) that it was justified.

Bonniedog

Deleted User wrote: »

The OP is surely a joke?

And would you not post a link rather than a ****e joke.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/man-dies-after-being-shot-by-garda%C3%AD-following-standoff-in-co-dublin-1.4447470

The times link doesn't really tell you what happened does it?

Real story is being tweeted and FBed by long suffering residents of this creature and the gangs. Who of course do not exist ....

Bonniedog

.anon. wrote: »

Bit early to say (a) that it's our George Floyd moment, or (b) that it was justified.

It sounds like it was justified.

You won't hear that on the MSM either.

Eric Cartman

.anon. wrote: »

Bit early to say (a) that it's our George Floyd moment, or (b) that it was justified.

the gardai followed non lethal escalation procedures, appealed multiple times to drop the knife, it takes a special level of dumb to continue brandishing a knife with a gun or 3 pointed at you,

we don't need that level of dumb in the world.

Neeson

https://mobile.twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1344318165308874752

Was about to stab a Garda so all should be OK.

.anon.

The bigots on here have made their minds up fairly quickly anyway.

Eric Cartman

Neeson wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1344318165308874752

Was about to stab a Garda so all should be OK.

chap still lunging with the knife while being shot...

I pity the poor gardai that are going to have to sit through hours of interviews to justify defending themselves and the public from that scrote.

Duke O Smiley

Eric Cartman wrote: »

All reports state he had a knife, absolutely justified

This is the most comprehensive report so far : https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/knifeman-dies-garda-shooting-clonee-19539935

Have you seen Twitter? “We won’t rest until there’s justice” “Nowhere is safe for us” etc. Unbelievable. Videos show your man swinging a knife at them.

Eric Cartman

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Have you seen Twitter? “We won’t rest until there’s justice” “Nowhere is safe for us” etc. Unbelievable. Videos show your man swinging a knife at them.

defending a guy who tried to rob a shop at knife point and (allegedly stabbed a person in the shop) is such a weird hill to die on.

.anon.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I pity the poor gardai that are going to have to sit through hours of interviews to justify defending themselves and the public from that scrote.

What, do you think they just shouldn't bother investigating? FFS

dan1895

Bonniedog wrote: »

It sounds like it was justified.

You won't hear that on the MSM either.

Literally listening to this now on RTE radio one.

Eric Cartman

.anon. wrote: »

What, do you think they just shouldn't bother investigating? FFS

One bodycam video , 'yeah he had a knife and you told him to drop it a few times, case closed'

walshb

Eric Cartman wrote: »

All reports state he had a knife, absolutely justified

This is the most comprehensive report so far : https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/knifeman-dies-garda-shooting-clonee-19539935

Just having a knife is not justification...

Investigation hopefully explains why it happened

Reading up on it, it seems that the Gardai did as best as they could here before resorting to using lethal force...

Anyway, I will wait for the usual anti establishment mob to be out in force stirring tensions and creating hostility and division here...

I know what parties will hijack this to attack the Gardai and the state.

pgj2015

This is what happens when criminals see the Irish justice system as a soft touch. The guy probably thought it would be ok to try to stab armed cops.

obi604

walshb wrote: »

Just having a knife is not justification...

Investigation hopefully explains why it happened

Reading up on it, it seems that the Gardai did as best as they could here before resorting to using lethal force...

Anyway, I will wait for the usual anti establishment mob to be out in force stirring tensions and creating hostility and division here...

I know what parties will hijack this to attack the Gardai and the state.

Well he didn’t just have a knife, he was lunging said knife at guards like a maniac, if it made contact, it was most likely game over for a guard.

.anon.

.anon. wrote: »

The bigots on here have made their minds up fairly quickly anyway.

Have you read any of the posts at all?

Im melting away

Im melting away wrote: »

Armed response, shot at his mass, no trying to shot his hand or legs.

Obviously a troll, but nonetheless, this is exactly by the book.


Aiming for a hand. :rolleyes: Where's Stallone when you need him.

Bonniedog

Bonniedog wrote: »

Could be our George Floyd moment!

Daft comment.

.anon. wrote: »

The bigots on here have made their minds up fairly quickly anyway.

Daft comment.

Im melting away

Im melting away wrote: »

Defund the feds.

Tazer and pepper spray, no beanbag guns.

Armed response, shot at his mass, no trying to shot his hand or legs.

All guards will be cleared the press office has already sent out their version, case closed.

You’re specifically taught to shoot at mass, not the head, arms or legs because bullets can miss very easily and hit someone else. You aim for the biggest target, not the smallest.

Guns are not meant to injure, they’re designed to kill. Shooting limbs is something you see in movies and on TV.

Dressoutlet

I don't know why the Gardai didn't attempt a non lethal shot, ie, to his leg or something. I'm a fierce supporter of BLM but this is not a case of a black man was shot for being black. This is a black man stabbed a civilian and then attempted to stab members of The Gardai. He was pepper sprayed and tased as well. The only question I have is to the killing of him. Black, White or Asian I don't think shooting someone dead is ever a good outcome

Diemos

.anon. wrote: »

Bit early to say (a) that it's our George Floyd moment, or (b) that it was justified.

Not really, there is a long precedence to perceived racial profiling and death by cops in the US.
We have nothing like that here, shooting by cop are extremely rare in Ireland, very few officers are even armed.
So in the unlikely event that it was an unjustified killing, I don't expect to see wide spread protesting and looting here any time soon.

So I think we can be fairly certain that this is not our George Floyd moment.

Dressoutlet

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You’re specifically taught to shoot at mass, not the head, arms or legs because bullets can miss very easily and hit someone else. You aim for the biggest target, not the smallest.

Guns are not meant to injure, they’re designed to kill. Shooting limbs is something you see in movies and on TV.

I seen this after my previous post. Thank you for the explanation

Im melting away

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Obviously a troll, but nonetheless, this is exactly by the book.


Aiming for a hand. :rolleyes: Where's Stallone when you need him.

You're obviously a moron, I'm no troll, we are evens now.

Are the armed response trained to a level where they pick a spot and can shoot that spot?

There was over 10 guards of different ranks around him, they'll all be cleared, any bodycams? I'll eat my hat of there's.