You're Upper Class When

sbsquarepants

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Conor Mcgregor could probably manage that and he's certainly not "upper class "

McGregor has no class of any description. No amount of money will ever buy him some either.

partyguinness

Honestly I have read quite a bit of horse manure of this forum but this thread is in a league of its own.

Cheese...! WTF

Feisar

the purple tin wrote: »

You send your chislers to the Billie Barry and they get to sing or dance on the Toy Show.

The entertainment is barely one step above the help.

Hector Savage

You're upper class when you think it's ok to be a tobaggonist ..

Aglomerado

Stovepipe wrote: »

Burbury has been "chavved" down so much , it's unrecognisable. A proper toff gets his suits in Jermyn Street or if he is feeling showy and flash, Milan or Paris.

Chanel, Versace etc are getting the same treatment as well, judging by the silver glittery tacky tables, chairs, rugs and end tables that are popping up on Facebook buy/ sell groups. All fakes and cheapening the brands just like what happened to Burberry!

You call the same radio talk show host several times on the same program on different topics for each call and the host does not get tired of you.

micah537

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

As someone said in motors; the middle class buy a new Audi every 3 years, the upper class buy a Merc and keep it for ten.

I would disagree unless it's an R8. Where do high end 911 and Ferrari go so?

The start of middle class cars would be at a minimum a Range Rover Vogue, and upper class would be hyper cars.

An Audi A6 isn't even three times the price of a focus or golf so its hardly considered middle class.

You tell classmates like myself you can never come into their own house.

You are not allowed to call their classmate friends by their nickname.

partyguinness

micah537 wrote: »

I would disagree unless it's an R8. Where do high end 911 and Ferrari go so?

The start of middle class cars would be at a minimum a Range Rover Vogue, and upper class would be hyper cars.

An Audi A6 isn't even three times the price of a focus or golf so its hardly considered middle class.

As someone who has lived in England for the past 10 years I know a little about about this. I commute (not live) through an extremely affluent suburb- old money from the 19th century industrialists. I see 2020 Bentleys, Rolls Royce SUVs, Aston Martins on a daily basis. Porsches of every model, BMWs and Mercs are a dim a dozen. Jesus I drive a 2020 BMW myself and that is nothing to write home about.

1. Any self respecting 'upper class' will not be seen dead in a Porsche or Ferrari. Jesus Christ no. That is for footballers and vulgar middle aged 'new money' types or young Asians trying to impress their friends and neighbours,

2. Audi R6- are you having a laugh? Leased out by Asians trying to impress their friends. Guaranteed they still live at home with their mother and work in a warehouse.

3. The 'upper class' are asset rich but cash poor. They have no interest in showing off hence cars and outwardly displays of money are of no relevance.

4. Range Rover Evoque- expecially one that is 7-8 years old. Very much the aspring working class/lower middle class types. Maxed out on credit cards. Trying too hard. Builder with a hair dresser wife.

5. Any self respecting upper class will not drive. They have someone else to drive for them.

partyguinness

Bear in mind that upper middle class invest their money off shore in trusts etc. They are only interested in making money not losing it.

Think about it. Taking £100k and buying a new 911 is an extremely bad investment. You are chucking thousands of pounds down the drain the second you pull off the forecourt and then with a very limited resale market. Not clever.

Mad_maxx

the purple tin wrote: »

He's nouveau riche. The upper class hate people like him. Probably because it brings back memories of when they were wealthy.

The upper class dont go in for the kind of material possession you listed

Roman abramovich isn't " upper class " , Jacob Rees Mogg is ,despite being a pauper compared to the Chelsea owner

It's about more than bank balance

the purple tin

You are an expert in the history of the local area. You've maybe wrote a book or set up a site about it.

micah537

partyguinness wrote: »

As someone who has lived in England for the past 10 years I know a little about about this. I commute (not live) through an extremely affluent suburb- old money from the 19th century industrialists. I see 2020 Bentleys, Rolls Royce SUVs, Aston Martins on a daily basis. Porsches of every model, BMWs and Mercs are a dim a dozen. Jesus I drive a 2020 BMW myself and that is nothing to write home about.

1. Any self respecting 'upper class' will not be seen dead in a Porsche or Ferrari. Jesus Christ no. That is for footballers and vulgar middle aged 'new money' types or young Asians trying to impress their friends and neighbours,

2. Audi R6- are you having a laugh? Leased out by Asians trying to impress their friends. Guaranteed they still live at home with their mother and work in a warehouse.

3. The 'upper class' are asset rich but cash poor. They have no interest in showing off hence cars and outwardly displays of money are of no relevance.

4. Range Rover Evoque- expecially one that is 7-8 years old. Very much the aspring working class/lower middle class types. Maxed out on credit cards. Trying too hard. Builder with a hair dresser wife.

5. Any self respecting upper class will not drive. They have someone else to drive for them.

I never mentioned what upper class drove. I disagreed that Audi was middle class, the cars I mentioned are more middle class than working class here in Ireland.

the purple tin

You give your kids strange nicknames.

Feisar

You are English
The same massive tract of land has been in the family for generations
Your family has been going to the same fee paying school for generations
You live in "the" big house

Xtrail14

When you wipe your hole back to front.

Some Yoke

When you criticize ordinary people for their privilege from a position of your own much greater but conveniently overlooked privilege

partyguinness

...you marry your first cousin.

You throw away your iPhone 11 the moment the iPhone 12 comes out.

Now that you have your macbook M1, you're flogging off that macbook with Intel i9 CPU.

Now you have your PlayStation 5 (no, Apple don't make consoles) you're selling off that PS 4.

Feisar

partyguinness wrote: »

...you marry your first cousin.

Got to keep the wealth in the family.

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

You throw away your iPhone 11 the moment the iPhone 12 comes out.

Now that you have your macbook M1, you're flogging off that macbook with Intel i9 CPU.

Now you have your PlayStation 5 (no, Apple don't make consoles) you're selling off that PS 4.

That list is what aspirational middle class types do with the new Beemer on PCP to show off to the suburban neighbours and very much what the generationally wealthy "upper class" don't do. They tend not to have a consumerist lifestyle and have no need to be aspirational, because their wealth and background means they're already on top. They're more likely to buy a phone or laptop when their old one breaks, not because a new one came out, if they even notice a new one is out.

partyguinness

The 'upper class' do not need feel the need to buy expensive **** to validate their success. Conspicuous consumerism plays on insecurities. New car, new phone, holidays, city breaks, new kitchen etc: "If you do not have this crap you are a failure"

The ‘upper class’ are not insecure. Quite frankly they do not know any different.

Leg End Reject

Your handmade, solid wood furniture has been handed down to the generations and you don't get giddy at the thoughts of spending money because your family has always been privileged.

A lot of people are confusing the "new" self-appointed middle classes that emerged in alarming numbers during the Celtic tiger with the upper classes. Call to the home of someone with old money and try finding a jet ski, decking or a 50 inch TV. They'd sneer at such vulgarity.

Surreptitious

When you can eat an apple through a tennis racket. Hurrah!

partyguinness

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Your handmade, solid wood furniture has been handed down to the generations and you don't get giddy at the thoughts of spending money because your family has always been privileged.

A lot of people are confusing the "new" self-appointed middle classes that emerged in alarming numbers during the Celtic tiger with the upper classes. Call to the home of someone with old money and try finding a jet ski, decking or a 50 inch TV. They'd sneer at such vulgarity.

I tend to use the term "Celtic Tiger Millionaires" i.e. not really well off just mortgaged and maxed out to the hilt to distinguish those who are genuinely very well off.

Leg End Reject

partyguinness wrote: »

I tend to use the term "Celtic Tiger Millionaires" i.e. not really well off just mortgaged and maxed out to the hilt to distinguish those who are genuinely very well off.

All fur coat and no knickers is my favourite.

Surreptitious

I had a few friends who were incredibly wealthy. They would have had a separate room just for the piano. One of them was like, I am staying in this wing for the time being.

monkeynuz

partyguinness wrote: »

I tend to use the term "Celtic Tiger Millionaires" i.e. not really well off just mortgaged and maxed out to the hilt to distinguish those who are genuinely very well off.

Well off and posh are two different things

partyguinness

A client at work treated himself to a £100k watch and a £100k Porsche for himself and wife (as in bought 2) for their 50th. Cash. Typically Asian.

Another lad spent £250k on Koi Carp. When I was being told this I had a Fr Dougal look on my face...WTF is Koi Carp I was sitting there thinking. Long way from Koi Carp I was raised.

bertiebomber

micah537 wrote: »

You are upper class when you own a yacht and/or private jet and have a garage of hypercars with a house in excess of 5 or 10 million.

Unfortunately in Ireland people seem to think they are upper class with just a 100k salary.

You are confusing class here with rappers from detroit !