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Procrastination? Is it all that bad?

  • 11-12-2020 11:13am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭


    I have a 3000word essay due at 5pm.
    I have at least chosen my topic and begun to sort out references.
    I've even made a lovely little mindmap ;)
    I've yet to do any substantive work on it though.

    I'd love to blame Covid, to blame anything other than my shoddy work style.
    I'm a 41y.o "mature" student who had 20yrs of professional experience before heading back to academia.
    I know better...

    What's worse is that whilst I'm lazily coasting my way through 2nd year.
    My lad is in 5th year, thinking I'll let him do the same!
    It's do as I say, not as I do!
    My years of poor habit and haphazard albeit successful to date ;) working style.
    Are not an appropriate approach to the leaving cert ;)

    So lads and ladettes?
    How tight should I cut it? Is it appropriate to reference my own work?:pac:
    And can I keep up my QCA?

    Also?
    Chime in with your own experiences of last minute anything!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    My simple advice for when you're absolutely cramming it for an assignment is know your beginning, middle and end. Plan well and you can get it done, it's when you're sitting there, mind blank thinking what to write next is when the work doesn't happen.

    I wrote 1500 words of a 20,000-word thesis in one night and did edits, references, contents etc. Huge mistake as the writing is easy, it's the editing and all the referencing which will kill ya. SO REFERENCE AS YOU GO.

    It may be tedious but it will save you a tonne of time. I worked from 4 pm till 8 am the next morning btw. Then ran into Dublin got it printed, gave it in and came out with a mark of 68% on it.

    I also went a bit delirious when drinking that night due to a lack of sleep, relief and drunkenness. All fond memories.

    You'll be grand OP, just write as quick and fast as you can. Try aim to have it done by 4pm and plus I'm sure it's within 10% of the total word count you have to write, so maybe even like 2700 words you really have to write?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭ROAAAR


    I'll light a candle <3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    ROAAAR wrote: »
    I'll light a candle <3

    A scented one I hope :P
    I'm actually not too worried, its for criminal justice and I am fairly sure I can spin out what I have into something at least cogent.

    The adrenaline of the deadline is far more a motivation to me than just being on top of my work.
    I need a crack across the head on that front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Yes it's terrible, I'm suffering the same way with putting things off for assignments and studying for degree I'm doing, but I'm nowhere near as bad as I used to be.
    This Ted talk on the subject is very good -



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'll tell you tomorrow. Hopefully.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    In the time it took you to start this thread and send replies you could have actually got some of it done. Get on with it cowboy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    banie01 wrote: »
    I have a 3000word essay due at 5pm.


    You've 5 hours, 300 minutes for 3,000 words.



    10 words a minute, relax man, piece of píss.



    Stick on the kettle and grab a few bikkies and a bit of you tube, no hurry - sure you've the world of time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    You've 5 hours, 300 minutes for 3,000 words.



    10 words a minute, relax man, piece of píss.



    Stick on the kettle and grab a few bikkies and a bit of you tube, no hurry - sure you've the world of time!

    See, this man gets it! ;)
    Coffee and amphetamine will get the words out...
    Just the order that could be an issue 😛


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    <snip>

    As someone who is too well aware of their own mortality, has faced it a couple of times and buried loved ones.
    That hypothesis is flawed

    The value of my effort is proportional to the value I attribute the work.
    Clearly in this instance I have either ascribed too low a value to care?
    Or vastly overestimated my capacity to complete the task.

    Now given my lack of previous failure, my relative success in life to date I refuted your hypothesis.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    banie01 wrote: »
    As someone who is too well aware of their own mortality, has faced it a couple of times and buried loved ones.
    That hypothesis is flawed

    The value of my effort is proportional to the value I attribute the work.
    Clearly in this instance I have either ascribed too low a value to care?
    Or vastly overestimated my capacity to complete the task.

    Now given my lack of previous failure, my relative success in life to date I refuted your hypothesis.
    How dare you refute the easy janglings of pop psychology! :D Actually there's a lot of actual psychology that's dubious so there's that.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,641 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Wibbs wrote: »
    How dare you refute the easy janglings of pop psychology! :D Actually there's a lot of actual psychology that's dubious so there's that.

    it is almost like it is not really a proper science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 799 ✭✭✭POBox19


    Procrasti is the most populated nation on earth. You'll find lots of friends there all doing the same nothing.

    In my experience getting an essay completed early was always the best way to enjoy the days before it was due to be delivered. Like any set of tasks always do the most difficult first and the remainder will be easy.

    Good luck with the exams.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Grace under pressure is supposed to be the mark of a genius.

    What I would do is download speech to text software and dictate the essay in a general way, then fine tune it in the last 2 hours. It would save you all the typing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    Procrastination is absolutely lovely, it just robs you of your chance of reaching a great achievement


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    You've 5 hours, 300 minutes for 3,000 words.



    10 words a minute, relax man, piece of píss.



    Stick on the kettle and grab a few bikkies and a bit of you tube, no hurry - sure you've the world of time!

    I can foresee a bit of "cut & paste"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    What I would do is download speech to text software and dictate the essay in a general way, then fine tune it in the last 2 hours. It would save you all the typing.


    Genius!


    Pat yourself on the back there AG. I love it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Happy4all wrote: »
    I can foresee a bit of "cut & paste"

    Not in the age of turnitin :(
    Even quillbot is being caught out nowadays on there.

    I'm getting there tho ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Alan Partridge:

    "I used to be indecisive. Now, I'm not so sure"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    3006 words, referenced and Grammarly's plagiarism check is coming in at 2%.
    My Mrs is always my pre-submission sanity check and she says it reads ok...
    So it's done!

    I'm hoping that the good Dr marking it, sees it the same way.
    Fingers crossed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭3d4life


    banie01 wrote: »

    I dont know.

    Do we have to decide now ?

    Something might happen over the weekend.

    Wouldnt it be better to leave it 'till Monday ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,909 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    i was going to give you a pep talk earlier, but then happened across a few websites and read the papers etc so i thought i'd leave you alone for while but then had to have my lunch and a couple of work calls and when i finally get back here you've it done.

    well done you.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fools rush in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Fools rush in.

    Only if the angels are scared.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    banie01 wrote: »
    Only if the angels are scared.

    How did you get on?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    3d4life wrote: »
    I dont know.

    Do we have to decide now ?

    Something might happen over the weekend.

    Wouldnt it be better to leave it 'till Monday ?

    Your quoted post actually links to the original, another new feature!

    On topic, I am the queen of procrastination. A huge advantage of it is that it focuses the mind fairly sharpish and I power through tasks rather than get sidetracked. The disadvantages, well ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    chrissb8 wrote: »
    How did you get on?

    Honestly, and probably arrogantly...
    I think I nailed it.
    Hubris will likely be my downfall, but I submitted a fairly cogent and very defendable essay at 14:50 yesterday.

    I've read it over again since, and it hangs together well.
    Might not get me an A, but certainly worthy of a B and if I can keep better than a 3.2 QCA during this **** show?
    I'll be a happy student.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    El Hecko wrote: »
    400 word essay due next Friday and I still haven't started.

    Fml.

    One of your posts on here would amount to that. 400 words me ass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,641 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    One of your posts on here would amount to that. 400 words me ass.

    I've written more on post-it notes. since when did 400 words constitute an essay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    I’m a procrastinator too, I don’t tend to cut things quite as fine as you op but it has certainly been an issue for me. I work in an area where there is a lot of deadlines so I simply had to address it, I have had to work hard on things like diary management, to do lists, organising workflows etc and delegating things in good time to other staff so as not to unload my tardiness on them (I’m in management)

    In relation to getting essays and theses done it’s just a case of setting so much time aside each day etc to work on it and planning it out and then sticking to it as rigidly as you can. I used to fool myself in to thinking that I can get through huge amounts of work very quickly when I get going so my procrastination didn’t matter but there is absolutely no doubt that the quality suffers when you are cramming it at the end.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    I've written more on post-it notes. since when did 400 words constitute an essay?

    I wouldn't take anything that dude says seriously.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Is 400 words not one and a half pages?
    Essay?

    Thats a haiku


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭tinner777


    1000 word lit review, 1000 words on methodology, before work at 9 tomorrow, every fuc..ing time, and what's worse, I've absolutely no excuses...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    tinner777 wrote: »
    1000 word lit review, 1000 words on methodology, before work at 9 tomorrow, every fuc..ing time, and what's worse, I've absolutely no excuses...

    I was exactly the same.whats worse is....
    I knew the topics in October :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    banie01 wrote: »
    Honestly, and probably arrogantly...
    I think I nailed it.
    Hubris will likely be my downfall, but I submitted a fairly cogent and very defendable essay at 14:50 yesterday.

    I've read it over again since, and it hangs together well.
    Might not get me an A, but certainly worthy of a B and if I can keep better than a 3.2 QCA during this **** show?
    I'll be a happy student.

    Fair play man. Hope you get that B! I'm sure you will.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    3,000 words ? dead easy since you know most of them already. Just spread them according to the frequency they occur and sprinkle in some nouns.



    an,bí,ar,agus,is,ag,le,na,do,go,de,sé,sin,ó,é,seo,cuir,mar,ach,déan,faoi,nó,duine
    tabhair,féin,ní,aon,as,chun,eile,abair,mé,tar,cuid,maith,faigh,sí,ná,bliain,siad,téigh
    nuair,iad,amach,mo,cé,nach,bain,ceann,gach,tú,rud,í,caith,Gaeilge,trí,gan,féidir
    lá,chomh,fear,isteach,fad,áit,beag,am,chuig,Éire,obair,céad,amháin,taobh
    anois,céile,mac,feic,níos,má,teach,ceart,gur,idir,scéal,tír,saol,bith,roimh,féad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    banie01 wrote: »
    Chime in with your own experiences of last minute anything!
    Six days before a Mercantile Law exam when I was doing chartered accountancy I didn't know anything about it. Not the slightest idea what Mercantile Law was.
    Got out the books and got a B+.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    I wrote a 30000 word thesis in a week. Oh how I hated myself during that week. It was based on actual practical research I had completed over two years, so at least I wasn't having to do much referencing and sourcing of information, but it was torture, and I put my supervisor through a horrible time too having to read it all last minute. I am a horrible procrastinator, and I always swear I will never do it to myself again. But I never learn my lesson. I don't think I ever will, until I fail completely and can't pull it together. I'm sure my day will come.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    I've been doing an online course for the past two years. I started the course full of positivity and ready to learn. But I kept everything till the last minute.

    I keep saying that each semester I'll be more prepared but it never happens. Had an online CA a few weeks ago, kept meaning to study because even though it's online and you have your notes, you still need to know where to find things. It didn't help that I was doing the CA at break time in work and didn't want to be bringing in my notes into work as well. Do you think I studied for this? Nope. So I relied on the multiple choices that were in the exam and just just picked random answers because I really hadn't a clue. Came out with 80% with that exam so very happy with that.

    Had a project due last Friday as well. Started it on Wednesday and fitting it around work was hard.

    And I'll never learn to give things plenty of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    A mixture of procrastination and downright laziness has f*cked me right in the ass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I got the 1st results back for the Autumn Semester.
    Not for this particular module but the half assed rush to completion....
    Well it was also the model followed for that one ;)

    Got an A!
    It's looking good, fingers crossed for results day!


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