Travellers Carrickpherish

GandhiwasfromBallyfermot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120214738#Comment_120214738

Looks like this is going to replace the little shanty town the boys have built between the halting site and Ard Phiarais?

Quitelife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120214738#Comment_120214738

More Free Houses for the Lads !!

Waterford Taxpayers & Rate Paying Businesses better get the head down to pay for all these houses !!

Azatadine

And it'll be like the Gaza strip again in no time.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120215695#Comment_120215695

...cause the market has been doing an amazing job at supplying a sufficient number of properties, maintain low inflation of prices, and not causing property, and banking crisis!

Quitelife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120219128#Comment_120219128

Yea yea..its always someone elses fault.

Of course there should be council houses but for people that are in low paying jobs and cant get on the property ladder ...not for people who refuse to work & cause mayhem in the local community and drive round in new cars & Vans and can pay 20K cash for headstones!

BBM77

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120219128#Comment_120219128

Bit of a ridiculous statement in fairness. What has this got to do with Travelers? There is an undoubted problem with the property market. However, does not give you the right to behave like feral f%$£ing animals and take over other people’s property and the side of the road. Or throw lumps of wood at the front wheel of cyclist’s bikes as they pass. You are very found of using the term “wealth extraction”. As mentioned already, these “people” are extracting wealth by both illegal means and legally extracting wealth from the state and giving nothing back.

Asdfgh2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120220496#Comment_120220496

I’ve used the road you are taking about several times as part of a run (on my own I might add) and have passed the ‘settlements’ you refer to and ok I’ve seen young 2-3 year olds running wild but have never been spoken to, had anything thrown at me or interacted with in any way……..I do wonder at accuracy of some of the absurd comments on this thread and other social medial sites about the ‘Wild West/Beirut’ type behaviour that is the default experience of anyone who passes by

Santan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120221456#Comment_120221456

very much a "its never happened to me, so everyone else must just be lying" post. No matter the amount of evidence some people just do not want to accept what these people are.

Asdfgh2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120221785#Comment_120221785

I must have passed this area walking/running 70/80 times at this stage……given the number of references to and frequency of anti-social behaviour in the area surely one would expect to have encountered / experienced / witnessed more than groups of feral 3/4 year olds left unattended playing with dogs and jumping in muddy puddles…?

BBM77

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120221929#Comment_120221929

Just because nothing happened to you does not mean nothing happens.

StringerBell

Can second it tbh, I live in the area and use the road daily. Never had a negative interaction 🤷‍♂️ I'm sure some do of course (and I'd hate to be on the doorstep with them), but as with a lot I suppose it is quite possibly exaggerated for effect.

Asdfgh2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120222049#Comment_120222049

On the contrary……On the balance of probabilities you would expect to witness something given the supposedly frequency of the antisocial behaviour taking place there…?

BBM77

Lads, I used to cycle along the Carrickpherish road at least once a week. I had to stop and go a different way because it became too risky. One day some prick jumped at me to try and knock me off. Another day another prick ran at me with a stick. It is not exaggerated there is a problem in the area.

Azatadine

Absolutely, it's a rough spot and the squalor is atrocious. I still can't understand how anyone, back in the day, thought it would be a good idea to put a halting site on a new road at the entrance to the city......and near multi nationals like Bausch and Sanofi.

BBM77

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120222897#Comment_120222897

It was an absolutely absurd place to put a halting site.

iseegirls

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120222897#Comment_120222897

Out of interest, where is the best place to put a halting site?

Azatadine

At the entrance to the city is certainly one of the worst anyway.

Hijpo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224373#Comment_120224373

Affluent areas, being around the pillars of society will change their mind set.

Like around the corner from big wig TD's and the SJW's that see nothing wrong with how they behave.

It is a Dunne Deal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224373#Comment_120224373

The middle of the sea.

iseegirls

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224443#Comment_120224443

I don't see it being an entrance to the city. You would have to pretty much take a big diversion to go out of your way to come from any direction to pass by that area if you do indeed want to end up in the city centre.

Main entrances to the city come from the Tramore Road, Cork Road, Dunmore Road, and from across the bridge.

nomoedoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224883#Comment_120224883

Bilberry halting site is directly across from the bridge at the entrance to the city ,out the Dunmore road would be a good place to put one say down by the Balinakill centre or Ardkeen stores ,but everyone knows there will never be a halting site anywhere near there ,out of sight out of mind up in Carrickpherish and that’s what the council want,give it a few years and that whole suburb will be a no go area.

Madeoface

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224373#Comment_120224373

Longford.

Asdfgh2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120222897#Comment_120222897

What relevance have the multinationals in the selection of halting sites

An Claidheamh

“According to Cllr Jody Power (GP) the cultural requirements of the Traveller people have not been taken into consideration in the plan. He said they need horse boxes, sulkies, motorhomes, stables and fields to supplement their culture.”

Don’t know if anyone has noticed this from the article by the fella from the Green Party,

he is claiming the people of Waterford need to give these few families

1) fields (which fields?)

2) horse boxes (why?)

3) motor homes

(the rate payer in Waterford city better cough to pay 50-100 thousand euro for 1 motor home per person in that estate)

4) sulkies

(that is right, the Green Party are promoting traffic deaths and severe and disgusting animal abuse having children riding sulkies)

Please tell me this man is not still a councillor, seems like a bigger scumbag than some in those areas,

well done to the councillors who would not be allow one rule for some and one for another

The whole planning for housing/accommodation along the Carrickpherish Road is an utter embarrassment and disgrace, especially on the road opposite the halting site- apartments just built in the middle of nowhere.

I can't speak of the trouble in the area but it definitely looks tidier than it did a while back. I use the road relatively frequently and it was so bad a while back I took the long way around.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120224883#Comment_120224883

If you're visiting Sanofi, West, Bausch & Lomb, etc..., it's very much an entrance to the city. These companies are the backbone of the city economically. There's also quite a bit of land up there so any potential investors to the area are not going to want trouble on their doorstep.

azimuth17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225616#Comment_120225616

Three houses there at present. Plan suggests five to be added in the site currently occupied by the tigeens. The road there is hardly an entrance to the city. Important industrialists come by air to the airport. Others come to IDA offices and thence to IDA sites. That being said, the road is mainly used by people exiting the IDA estates and seeking to cross Rice Bridge. The traveller site has been a rash on Carrigphierish since it was built and the council simply ignored all manner of activities. Housing and planning absolved themselves from any responsibility for the site. Council now find themselves having to satisfy members of the traveller community under the Traveller Accommodation Plan. I am not a Green supporter but the man from that party has it right. There was no room with three houses for horses van and horseboxes. Now that the site will be fully buit on it will have no spare ground at all. Travellers keep horses whether we like it or not. They need ground and traveller horse projects have been successful in other areas. The present proposal is completely unacceptable.

Deiseen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225841#Comment_120225841

If travellers do not have the proper facilities for horses, then the horses should be instantly taken off them. If they repeat this behaviour, then they should be fined and then jailed for animal abuse.

If they want fields or stables, then I suggest they work for them and purchase these facilities, like every other citizen in the land would have to. Otherwise they should permanently forget about owning horses if they are unable to care for these animals. The state and the tax payer should never have to foot the bill for their want to own horses.

It could not be more simple than that.

Asdfgh2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225616#Comment_120225616

what sort of trouble….a few feral children running around after each other on footpaths about half a mile from the places you mention and a few overweight adults who use bad language and allegedly threaten /assault walkers and cyclists…..?

azimuth17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120226202#Comment_120226202

In a perfect world, sure. In Ireland..? We'll be waiting.

Asdfgh2020

If a George Floyd/Rodney king type incident occurred in Ireland and Floyd/King was from a traveller background what would be the general view of the general public…..would there be protests etc. ?

Tubbs4

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229188#Comment_120229188

Is ireland known for gardai killing travellers or beating them up? Kinda bad comparison as was more history behind America protests or looting.

Jarhead_Tendler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225436#Comment_120225436

No No thanks we have our share here

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120226779#Comment_120226779

I quite clearly stated that I cannot speak of the trouble in the area.

friendlyfun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120225536#Comment_120225536

This is the same councillor who wanted a China town in Ballybricken and a bust of Michael Collins on Mount Misery.

Cabaal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120229749#Comment_120229749

So you'd be fine if the Gardai killed a person in the same manner? You wouldn't think its wrong and that the dehumanizing of people should change?

JohnC.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120231042#Comment_120231042

Or maybe it's a dumb comparison of something entirely hypothetical and something with a long and continuing history of actually happening.

Azatadine

The shop on the Carrickphierish road is a dangerous area in terms of parking. People actually park ON the road outside the shop. Crazy. They just park up on the actual road.

new92

Did I read that right? Jody Power is a bigger scumbag than some in those areas. Please god give me patience.

An Claidheamh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121294172#Comment_121294172

Judging by the way he sees travellers as some sort of inferior race, not to be treated as serious adults, destined to remain an isolated sub-culture to feel pitied and that horses should be brutalised to allow people to get their kicks and nearly kill other traffic users or children - then yes, he is a scumbag

Wanderer2010

Why, what did he say?

Motivator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121294195#Comment_121294195

they are sub human

Wanderer2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121302836#Comment_121302836

Careful now..if you actually say what a huge number of people are thinking, some mod (who also thinks like you) will chuck you out with the banstick and throw in some hypocritical finger wagging about how its only a tiny minority of travellers that commit crimes, and Pavee Point will paint you even worse than a terrorist.

No wonder they get away with blue murder. The Guards are too frightened to touch them and if you ask a legitimate question like how come they can afford huge homes and 2023 white vans, you are automatically a xenophobe. And they know that too..cute out.

Quitelife

Its a growing problem all over the country - the behaviour of many travellers and how they are allowed get away with destroying so many towns and villages despite the fact their given free houses etc etc

Cabaal

This thread is done.

If you think travelers are all the same or sub-human then you need to take a long hard look in the mirror because it makes you a sorry excuse for a human being.