Build Back Better

Fighting Tao

greenspurs wrote: »

Can anyone answer this ?

Anyone ?

:rolleyes:

Didn’t Dhonjoe cover that?

Every little helps. Not one is a silver bullet, but they work together.

Lex Luthor

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Klaus Schwab is head of an economic forum, not the WHO.

Really? I didnt know this

Lex Luthor

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Didn’t Dhonjoe cover that?

Every little helps. Not one is a silver bullet, but they work together.

2m and hand washing was more effective than adding masks into the equation

Tell me why are masks "mandatory" in shops, but not necessary in post offices, banks and credit unions?

greenspurs

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Didn’t Dhonjoe cover that? .

Not really.........

He kinda skipped the liability bit......

Dohnjoe

Lex Luthor wrote: »

so do you think when the vaccine is rolled out and the majority take it, everything will return back to normal?

If/when the virus starts to recede properly, then there should be a return to some sort of normality. Keep in mind that certain things will change, e.g. a lot more people will be working from home, some companies are already offering this as permanent. I suspect some people will wear masks out of habit (like they do in Asia after various epidemics there).

Fighting Tao

Lex Luthor wrote: »

2m and hand washing was more effective than adding masks into the equation

Tell me why are masks "mandatory" in shops, but not necessary in post offices, banks and credit unions?

Who said they are not mandatory in financial institutions? That is a new one for me. Anytime I have been in a financial institution, people have been wearing masks.

Dohnjoe

greenspurs wrote: »

Can anyone answer this ?

Anyone ?

:rolleyes:

Addressed it in this post

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115540337&postcount=205

Fighting Tao

Dohnjoe wrote: »

If/when the virus starts to recede properly, then there should be a return to some sort of normality. Keep in mind that certain things will change, e.g. a lot more people will be working from home, some companies are already offering this as permanent. I suspect some people will wear masks out of habit (like they do in Asia after various epidemics there).

Are you saying that things will have been built back better? I mean that I might get to work from home where I prefer than having to commute? I could have a better quality of life because I save on commute time, and can spend that time doing things I would rather do?

greenspurs

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Who said they are not mandatory in financial institutions? That is a new one for me. Anytime I have been in a financial institution, people have been wearing masks.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/face-coverings-masks-and-covid-19/when-to-wear.html?fbclid=IwAR1S3_mIoE6bSd4OiBHZbbDYcnYujlWBh8EM2qNyLHUMBEXiuBsTYkm1DDo

Its there ....

Covid is afraid of money, as well as alcohol (unless you are eating )

greenspurs

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Addressed it in this post

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115540337&postcount=205

Again -

You seem to have skipped/missed/evaded the liability bit of it ?? :rolleyes:

Dohnjoe

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Are you saying that things will have been built back better? I mean that I might get to work from home where I prefer than having to commute? I could have a better quality of life because I save on commute time, and can spend that time doing things I would rather do?

Sounds like it will be a new normal

King Mob

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Lol

thats answered all my questions

Your logic is just the same level of ridiculous.

Answer those questions and you'll have the answer to yours.
Dohnjoe also spelled it out for you clearly and directly.

King Mob

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Is it really?

Yes. It is silly to conclude there's a global conspiracy based on a few catchphrases and a book none of you guys have read.

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Its not by coincidence that Trudeau and other are constantly mentioning a "Great reset" and "Build Back Better". There is a reason for it.

And that reason is...?

This has been asked many times and there's not really been an answer outside the guys claiming it's a sinister NWO/satanist plot.

greenspurs

Still no answer re Liability from our truth searchers ??


Just reposting the same sardonic reply isnt an answer .

Fighting Tao

greenspurs wrote: »

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/face-coverings-masks-and-covid-19/when-to-wear.html?fbclid=IwAR1S3_mIoE6bSd4OiBHZbbDYcnYujlWBh8EM2qNyLHUMBEXiuBsTYkm1DDo

Its there ....

Covid is afraid of money, as well as alcohol (unless you are eating )

Please give me your account number, bank name, and your own name so that I can rock up and pretend to be you and withdraw money from your account. Otherwise, I could just have a look in peoples bins for discarded PII, seeing as financial institutions don’t need to identify me

King Mob

greenspurs wrote: »

Still no answer re Liability from our truth searchers ??

Do you agree that the other points are not valid?

We can dig into the liability thing once we've cut away the invalid arguments.

greenspurs

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Please give me your account number, bank name, and your own name so that I can rock up and pretend to be you and withdraw money from your account. Otherwise, I could just have a look in peoples bins for discarded PII, seeing as financial institutions don’t need to identify me

Any sarcasm for the drinking with food is safe?
But just drinking isnt ?

Dohnjoe

greenspurs wrote: »

Again -

You seem to have skipped/missed/evaded the liability bit of it ?? :rolleyes:

There's isn't a "no liability" clause with vaccines. It's legally complex. If making a vaccine that millions take with no issues, but a handful of people have adverse reactions, it doesn't automatically mean the vaccine-makers are liable in every situation, it depends on the cases themselves and whether anything is systematic.

We need vaccines to protect ourselves from injury/death from infectious diseases, so we can't really stop manufacture because a couple of people out of millions may have complications, that could be related to the vaccine or not.

greenspurs

King Mob wrote: »

Do you agree that the other points are not valid?

We can dig into the liability thing once we've cut away the invalid arguments.

Deflecting away again?

Thats speaks louder than any sarcastic posts on here.

Lex Luthor

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Who said they are not mandatory in financial institutions? That is a new one for me. Anytime I have been in a financial institution, people have been wearing masks.

just because they are wearing masks doesnt mean they are mandatory

I suppose you are probably just listening to those established news channels that are giving out the information but if you did a little you might find the truth :P


Face coverings are not mandatory in:

Post offices, credit unions or banks
Medical or dental services
Sit-in restaurants or cafés

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/face_coverings_during_covid19.html

King Mob

greenspurs wrote: »

Deflecting away again?

Thats speaks louder than any sarcastic posts on here.

Nope. I'm just trying to progress the point.

Once we agree that all the other points are invalid, we can move onto the liability one.

Do you agree the other points are invalid? Yes or no?

I think you'll keep avoiding this though.

Dohnjoe

I'm still trying to understand what the conspiracy is here, if there is any.

greenspurs

Dohnjoe wrote: »

There's isn't a "no liability" clause with vaccines. It's legally complex. If making a vaccine that millions take with no issues, but a handful of people have adverse reactions, it doesn't automatically mean the vaccine-makers are liable in every situation, it depends on the cases themselves and whether anything is systematic.

We need vaccines to protect ourselves from injury/death from infectious diseases, so we can't really stop manufacture because a couple of people out of millions may have complications, that could be related to the vaccine or not.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/covid-19-vaccine-makers-lobby-eu-for-legal-protection-1.4339157

“The speed and scale of development and rollout do mean that it is impossible to generate the same amount of underlying evidence that normally would be available through extensive clinical trials and healthcare providers building experience,” reads a memo circulated to members by Vaccines Europe, a division of the European Federation of Pharmaceutical Industries and Associations.
The document says that this creates “inevitable” risks."

https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2020/09/22/583555.htm

Safety first ?
financial safety not public safety

Fighting Tao

greenspurs wrote: »

Any sarcasm for the drinking with food is safe?
But just drinking isnt ?

Nope...I have logic for that....to deter people from getting hammered because when they do become hammered many can’t keep to boundaries. However, eating is impossible with a mask on. Also, it means that less vintners moan, and another part of the economy is open providing employment and generating taxes.

greenspurs

King Mob wrote: »

Nope. I'm just trying to progress the point.

Once we agree that all the other points are invalid, we can move onto the liability one.

Do you agree the other points are invalid? Yes or no?

I think you'll keep avoiding this though.

you have no answer. Simple as that, and you wont bully me into giving you a yes/no .
You have no reply that will show you and the other lad are right, and now you are only arguing for the sake of an argument.

Liability...

Fighting Tao

Lex Luthor wrote: »

just because they are wearing masks doesnt mean they are mandatory

I suppose you are probably just listening to those established news channels that are giving out the information but if you did a little you might find the truth :P


Face coverings are not mandatory in:

Post offices, credit unions or banks
Medical or dental services
Sit-in restaurants or cafés

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/face_coverings_during_covid19.html

I already addresses that point. Give me your bank details and we will see why a mask is not a necessity.

JJayoo

Don't mean to go off topic

But I'm assuming global warming is being caused on purpose to make the earth more habitable for the lizard people?

King Mob

greenspurs wrote: »

you have no answer. Simple as that, and you wont bully me into giving you a yes/no .
You have no reply that will show you and the other lad are right, and now you are only arguing for the sake of an argument.

Liability...

You're deflecting.
I have no interest in diving into a complex legal topic when you aren't willing to answer direct and simple questions because the answers are uncomfortable for your.

You realise that the other points are not valid as with my analogy, masks aren't supposed to stop the virus 100%. None of the measures are.
The argument is silly and flawed.

However, you don't want to admit this because this would require you to disagree with a fellow conspiracy theorist, and this is verboten for some reason.

greenspurs

King Mob wrote: »

You're deflecting.
I have no interest in diving into a complex legal topic when you aren't willing to answer direct and simple questions because the answers are uncomfortable for your.

You realise that the other points are not valid as with my analogy, masks aren't supposed to stop the virus 100%. None of the measures are.
The argument is silly and flawed.

However, you don't want to admit this because this would require you to disagree with a fellow conspiracy theorist, and this is verboten for some reason.

"you are, no you are, no you are , no you are."

"A complex legal topic"
You cant answer why the pharma companies are demanding liability clauses for their vaccines.
You cant answer it now, and you couldnt answer it last week.

Your constant deflection is funny , my question has nothing to do with masks, i asked about why you and DohnJoe cant answer about the liability clause.

Dohnjoe

greenspurs wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/covid-19-vaccine-makers-lobby-eu-for-legal-protection-1.4339157

“The speed and scale of development and rollout do mean that it is impossible to generate the same amount of underlying evidence that normally would be available through extensive clinical trials and healthcare providers building experience,” reads a memo circulated to members by Vaccines Europe, a division of the European Federation of Pharmaceutical Industries and Associations.
The document says that this creates “inevitable” risks."

https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2020/09/22/583555.htm

Safety first ?
financial safety not public safety

Yes it is about our safety, remember we're weighing up the risks of the vaccine vs the risks of Covid. Let's say they take 5 or 10 years to develop this vaccine, how many will die of Covid approx over that period with no vaccine available vs increasing the speed of vaccine development and having one in the near future