If boards existed in the 1930's & 1940's what would the threads say about Hitler?

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

Do tell

How would Ireland fare if he had more influence here.

dzsfah2xoynme9

He's a gas man altogether..

Hangdogroad

What is he like, Trump or one of them mad fellas?

silverharp

would have been amusing to see the mods move all the concertation camp threads to the conspiracy theory section :pac:

Nazis, a great bunch of lads.

Atlantic Dawn

People taking the piss out of the tash on him.

Goebbels would be orchestrating a campaign across the politics forum reporting anyone who disagreed with him to silence opposition..

I Am The Law

Nazibots.

.anon.

He'd have his supporters on here, that's for sure. They'd be a bit uncomfortable about, you know, the whole Jew thing, but as the Irish Times editorial said in 1933, you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.



They'd likely have blamed 'woke' people for forcing voters to support him.

Church on Tuesday

As above, sadly he would have some support here, we all know the type.

Kylta

He be getting stick like all muppets do,

Wibbs

.anon. wrote: »

He'd have his supporters on here, that's for sure. They'd be a bit uncomfortable about, you know, the whole Jew thing, but as the Irish Times editorial said in 1933, you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.

Well it depends on how one reads it. Is it supportive, or reporting the German feelings of the time towards communists, or an illustrative if extremely flippant remark? It was also a feeling towards communists echoed throughout the rest of the West and that boogeyman was a large fear that helped the nazis to power. Note the author mentions how innocents are suffering throughout and the little corporal's insensate hatred of Jews being their biggest weakness. A hatred a fair number of publications elsewhere would have largely glossed over. It cuts off at Germany owes... I'd not be surprised to find it continues along the lines of how German Jews are a positive for that nation.

It could well be argued that if the nazis hadn't had that hatred they would have faired significantly better in their empire building and the war to come. For a start - and this perfectly illustrates their evil minded insanity - they would have saved billions in both German and foreign currency if the relocation and extermination policies had never existed*. They were rapidly running out of cash by 42/3 especially in foreign currency and actually ramped up supporting in men, materiel and money that vile endeavour. Never mind how inventive the German war scientists were in coming up with incredible tech, now imagine all those German Jews who fled the country willingly helping them. Without them the Americans would have been behind on the atom bomb for a start.

There's also the "bad PR" involved and the Nazis were well aware of this. When they took over Austria they found the Austrians were even more gung ho about rounding up and abusing Jewish people in plains sight and at that early stage of the war this caused concerns about how this was going over in the rest of the world. Sadly it wasn't that big a concern for the rest of the world. This is evidenced by how few nations took in fleeing Jews. Including our own. Plus the true extent of the horror simply wasn't believed at the time. I grew up with rellies who had lived through that war, quite the number fighting in it with the Brits or the Yanks and they didn't know, or thought the rumours were just that, rumours.

It was only at the end when it started to dawn on the general public. Belsen being the horrible epiphany for most. Auschwitz(which soon fell behind the Iron Curtain) and the Holocaust in general wasn't on the radar even after the war. Something that can be hard to fathom today. The Germans were now a bulwark against the same "Commies" so for political reasons it wasn't a topic for polite conversation. The first academic study on it was by one Dr Raul Hilberg(a man well worth the read and he's on Youtube and worth the watch) wrote his thesis on "The Destruction of European Jews" and after much resistance ended up being finally privately published in 1962.

They'd likely have blamed 'woke' people for forcing voters to support him.

Surely they'd blame woke people for not?





*The transport of Greek Jews a good example. Right off the bat they needed men on the ground to round men women and children up so that's reducing fighting forces. Then they had to transport them by trains through several countries and this was before the Euro remember and each country wanted their expenses and tolls paid along the way. The German kept meticulous records of their "special trains" and they bitched about these costs. And that's just one operation.

Hqrry113

Well if we didn't know about the holocaust we would probably be saying how much of an angel he is compared to the bigoted, racist Winston Churchill.

Wibbs

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

As above, sadly he would have some support here, we all know the type.

Actually CoT, that's the problem, we likely wouldn't. One of the most noticeable things about most of the nazis, even some among the top brass, was how deeply ordinary and normal and upstanding people they were. That regime was able to turn one of the most civilised, learned and advanced cultures in Europe on its head in a matter of a few years. Outliers were rare. Evil is remarkably average, even "nice". It rarely wears a black hat cackling with bloodstained hands.

It's actually more likely that on a site like this it would be the miscreants, the contrarians, even the trolls who would actually ask the pertinent questions the background culture would be afraid to. And they'd just as likely be shouted down. It's the contrarians that end up changing societies for good and ill, not the consensus of agreement of the majority.

We are all a product of our culture and the vast majority of us agree with, even cling to the "Established Truths" of our cultures. To question those is usually the remit of the brave, or the foolish, or foolhardy. Pretty much all of the truths we hold self evident and dear to us and our society were at one time completely beyond the Pale, and in many places today still are. And in those places they cling to their truths just as forcefully. And how often do we truly deeply examine those truths? Most of us just accept them. It's easier that way and day to day life must go on.

Futureislands

Not a Hitler supporter, but he tells it like it is

McHardcore

"Decent, hard working Irish people don't need the current generation of snowflake, virtue signalling politicians. They need strong leadership like we are witnessing right now with our German friends"

M.T. Cranium

Perhaps with more open global communication, people in Germany would have realized some of the things they only came to understand when it was far too late, and the internet might have assisted in that. We always hope it will do that today in cases like Iran or China, and perhaps it does to some extent but then the people who see the light have a hard time organizing any meaningful political opposition.

I have the feeling Hitler would have been leaning over shoulders getting his internet policies into place once he saw some of the things posted about him and his party.

A pessimist might say Hitler could have used the internet to his advantage, as he used radio and public spectacles like the 1936 Olympic Games.

I would also question what effects the internet might have had on Soviet communism. It might have softened the approaches taken in a near total information vacuum by Josef Stalin.

Anyway, Hitler's facebook page would have been a sight.

Hqrry113

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

Perhaps with more open global communication, people in Germany would have realized some of the things they only came to understand when it was far too late, and the internet might have assisted in that. We always hope it will do that today in cases like Iran or China, and perhaps it does to some extent but then the people who see the light have a hard time organizing any meaningful political opposition.

I have the feeling Hitler would have been leaning over shoulders getting his internet policies into place once he saw some of the things posted about him and his party.

A pessimist might say Hitler could have used the internet to his advantage, as he used radio and public spectacles like the 1936 Olympic Games.

I would also question what effects the internet might have had on Soviet communism. It might have softened the approaches taken in a near total information vacuum by Josef Stalin.

Anyway, Hitler's facebook page would have been a sight.

Just like American or British destruction of the middle east or the British oppression here in our own country during the famine or the famine Winston Churchill imposed on the Indian people during WW2 nobody gives a s**t.

Unless there is some heartwarming documentary the Germans or Americans or whoever can see on TV nobody will even think twice about all the horrible atrocities and pain inflicted at the hands of their state forces on innocent people living in foreign countries.

It's very easy to control the media to feed whatever information to the public for support or just to convince the public that it's the right thing to do, look at Libya for example one of the most well off prosperous nations in all of Africa and yet the British managed to convince the public they were interfering in Libyan affairs on some sort of heroic humanitarian mission, they got support from all over including Amnesty international it was only after the war did Amnesty international realize that most of the things used to justify the war were highly fabricated or simply straight up lies, they even got amnesty international to back their claims that Gaddafi had a secret sex dungeon where he kept dozens of underage girls for "sexual torture" this was all over the papers and media getting tons of support from the public and convincing them that gaddafi has to be taken down, it was only after the war did Amnesty international realize and come out and tell people that most of the things used to justify this war were fabricated and lies to get enough public support to justify the war.

s1ippy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Goebbels would be orchestrating a campaign across the politics forum reporting anyone who disagreed with him to silence opposition..

Much like the Leo enthusiasts on the Village leak thread.

Oranage2

Probably something about his missus being a bit pudgy

Hangdogroad

"I spent two years living in Munich and theres no crime, no beggars hassling you and the streets are clean".

pappyodaniel

I don't know much about Hitler but I do love the moderators. Pretty sure they've been handpicked by Hitler so I reckon the mods are a swell bunch.






please don't hurt me

TuringBot47

McHardcore wrote: »

"Decent, hard working Irish people don't need the current generation of snowflake, virtue signalling politicians. They need strong leadership like we are witnessing right now with our German friends"

I can totally hear that in Mary Lou McDonalds voice.

M.T. Cranium

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

Anyway, Hitler's facebook page would have been a sight.

U Okay Schweinhund?



Trump had a cult following. Nowhere near as charismatic as Herr Hitler, but enough for them to lose the run of themselves.


We are not so different to our early 20th century forebears given the right circumstances.

Patser

'Who vants a kick in der face? Genuinely' - Der Facenkiicker

SEPT 23 1989

Well in the fashion and appearance forum you would have

How did he come up with those snazzy uniforms?

Where can I buy those boots?

Do Hugo Boss deliver to Ireland?

Valresnick

Could you imagine what the planet would be like today if we had internet forums in the 30s ?

gmisk

Valresnick wrote: »

Could you imagine what the planet would be like today if we had internet forums in the 30s ?

A fatter mad max style world?

weldoninhio

s1ippy wrote: »

Much like the Leo enthusiasts on the Village leak thread.

Leo would have a Tash to greet Hitler and Flanagan would probably follow his fathers example. FG would be all over him.


From Dail records

“There is one thing that Germany did, and that was to rout the Jews out of their country. Until we rout the Jews out of this country it does not matter a hair's breadth what orders you make. Where the bees are there is the honey, and where the Jews are there is the money.“

Potential-Monke

Not sure what we'd be saying about the Nazis, but you can be damn sure there'd be a lot of threads giving out about the wimmenz!

Most likely some comments about an impending pandemic, or plague, which would ravage the country. Most dismissing it as mad talk from crazy people.

Soon after that, probably some comment about there being 3 million people in Ireland but 4 million cows.

You'd have the posh city vankers laughing at the poor country mucks who didn't have electricity. But then the country lads laughing at the city folk for having some of the worst slums in Europe.

Anti-maskers would still be a thing, but they'd end up dead of TB soon after.

And kids/teens giving out that they have to go to school now, and the older folk had it better by not having to go to school, while the older folk berate and give out about the younger folk not appreciating getting an educmacation.

There would be no gaming or consoles, so I probably wouldn't be on boards, as no reason to sign up.

Blondini

Dunno, but someone would say "strawman" to try to sound clever, and others would boast about ignoring and flaunting any Nazi restrictions... oh and there'd be lots of graphs, charts and statistics.

TuringBot47

Valresnick wrote: »

Could you imagine what the planet would be like today if we had internet forums in the 30s ?

Probably a load of people living in Auschwitz complaining about a planned incinerator.

OneEightSeven

Ii would be interesting which side Distilled Media would take between Nazi Germany and the USSR. Would they side with the genocidal Nazis who allowed private ownership of houses, or would they side with the Soviet Union who abolished private ownership of houses?

No doubt they would be on the side of NATO during the Cold War.

Many on here would support him.

s1ippy

Blondini wrote: »

Dunno, but someone would say "strawman" to try to sound clever, and ohers would boast about ignoring and flaunting any Nazi restrictions... oh and there'd be lots of graphs, charts and statistics.

Gaslighting has a takes on different meaning as well.

I Am The Law

"Feeling Dictatish, might invade Poland IDK"

Hector Savage

Sinn Fein would be singing his praises that's for sure.. any enemy of Britain was their friend (still is)

tabby aspreme

Battery life on devices would have been an issue, I remember my Dad, born in 1933, talking about cycling into town to swap the radio battery for a recharged one every week , the battery cases were glass, if you dropped it it was in bits, you were also restricted with the type of aeriel you had for a radio, it had to be indoors, incase you were transmitting.

tabby aspreme

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Battery life on devices would have been an issue, I remember my Dad, born in 1933, talking about cycling into town to swap the radio battery for a recharged one every week , the battery cases were glass, if you dropped it it was in bits, you were also restricted with the type of aeriel you had for a radio, it had to be indoors, incase you were transmitting.

The battery lasted a week, Nokia radio?

jmayo

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

As above, sadly he would have some support here, we all know the type.

But the thing is you are viewing things through the eyes of the 21st century.

There would be no woke types around.
There would definitely be no LGBT, no gender discussions.
Left wing didn't give two shytes about those types, they were for the worker, the proletariat and the more left were communist of some flavour.
Of course you would have the arguments about Trotskyism versus Stalinism.

You would have a lot of what nowadays would be seen as far right types, but who were in actual fact your ordinary Catholic Irish that would like Hitler because
1. he was anti communist which the church told them were the anti christ incarnate
2. he was sticking it to the Brits and we had just come out of the War of Independence a decade or so ago

You would have the IRA types who viewed Hitler as a way of getting at Britain and regaining the 6 counties.

You would then have the socialist communist types that actually believed Stalin was a great fellow and thus hated all fascists.

And you would have the ones who couldn't give a rats ass because they were having to emigrate to Britain or the US because that moron Dev was driving the county into the ground through his loony economic policies and wanted them dancing at the crossroads.

As the song says "Paddy was heading for Holyhead while Hitler was heading for Poland."

tabby aspreme

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The battery lasted a week, Nokia radio?

With limited use, mainly turned on for evening news times, with neighbours calling who didn't have a radio.

gozunda

If boards existed in the 1930's & 1940's what would the threads say about Hitler?

Just to say I'm quite impressed - this thread has managed to successfully Godwin itself

I think it might be necessary to divide up any potential reaction pre and post the commencement of WW2.

Pre WW2 Hitler was a pretty popular fellow. With all types of supporters in this country - anyone remember the term "blueshirts" and all those who went off to fight in Spain on behalf of Hitlers bedfellow - Franco? He had plenty of popular support in the UK and elsewhere.

The thing is Hitlers support base grew from very small beginnings into a populist mass movement.

Lots of people thought he was a great fellow
for the fairly mundane reasons such as getting Germany out of the post WW1 economic disaster, reducing Germanys huge unemployment rate, etc etc

It was the minority who were pointing out the obvious cracks in the background.

And I'm damn sure it would be the exact same here. A majority would be saying that he was a great fellow. How he loves his pet alsation, looks after his niece, doesn't drink, is fond of cabbages etc and doesn’t like any type of hunting whatsoever. Grand lad altogether.

The thing is not only did he get elected but also managed to convince over 60 million Germans that he was a most popular guy. What we know of him now - is that he was able to succesfully manipulate people and hoodwink them into hero worship.

And as Wibbs pointed out , it would be a small number who would actually stand up and say- 'eh hang on - this guy isn't what he seems"

In retrospect too many Sky History programs make him out to be an eejit - who no one liked. Unfortunately that's only the view in the rearview mirror. Something we should keep in mind about those who can successfully persuade others that black is white and only they have the solution to all our problems...

Yeah, the vegans would think he was great..

They'd say "Well all those names of producers in them Hollywood/land Pictures all seem to have something in common... Them Films is all propagana... I'd vote for him if I was German"

trashcan

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

Anyway, Hitler's facebook page would have been a sight.

Imagine his tweets !!

gozunda

trashcan wrote: »

Imagine his tweets !!

Thats the thing. Prewar - most people would probably have loved them. His mass rallies would have made the Glastonbury festival look like a picnic

whisky_galore

gozunda wrote: »

Thats the thing. Prewar - most people would probably have loved them. His mass rallies would have made the Glastonbury festival look like a picnic

I'll bet there wasn't any mess or abandoned tents left behind. They were very eco-friendly too.

.anon.

trashcan wrote: »

Imagine his tweets !!

"I WON THIS WAR, BY A LOT!"

Say Your Number

Did anyone hear the discussion on 2RN about him yesterday, now I'm not a fan of Hitler but it was really biased, someone should tell them they're supposed to be balanced.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Wibbs wrote: »

Surely they'd blame woke people for not?

You always hear that people vote for the likes of Trump because they're sick of "woke" politics or "political correctness". That's what was being referenced.

Junkyard Tom

PR scum would have been calling the extermination camps 'Employment centres for the disadvantaged'