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First Major surgery tomorrow, can you help ?

  • 11-11-2020 1:01pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭


    Hi All

    I am a super anxious person and have to go for major surgery tomorrow. I have been all over the internet for past 3 weeks and read all the usual stuff about awareness etc so have scared myself silly. I have a few questions for anyone that can help ?

    1. I have a few mild bulging discs in back and neck so was wondering is the operating table actually soft and comfortable ? Or is it a hard slab of iron where i will be in bits after it :-)

    2. I know it will all be fine , i am taking a sedative in the morning before going in which has been discussed with the medical team etc but any nice anesthesia stories would be helpful please i.e. do you go to sleep really fast and then just wake up like no time has passed ?

    I know i might be sick with a bit of pain afterwards but i can handle that and will get whatever pain meds i need

    Going to be in hospital for a few nights

    Thanks all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭grayzer75


    Hi All

    I am a super anxious person and have to go for major surgery tomorrow. I have been all over the internet for past 3 weeks and read all the usual stuff about awareness etc so have scared myself silly. I have a few questions for anyone that can help ?

    1. I have a few mild bulging discs in back and neck so was wondering is the operating table actually soft and comfortable ? Or is it a hard slab of iron where i will be in bits after it :-)

    2. I know it will all be fine , i am taking a sedative in the morning before going in which has been discussed with the medical team etc but any nice anesthesia stories would be helpful please i.e. do you go to sleep really fast and then just wake up like no time has passed ?

    I know i might be sick with a bit of pain afterwards but i can handle that and will get whatever pain meds i need

    Going to be in hospital for a few nights

    Thanks all

    Last op I had I remember being asked to count backwards from 10 - I don't think I got to 6 and then woke up in recovery no probs.

    You'll be fine, just try and stay as relaxed and calm as possible, also remember you'll be surrounded by experts who want to take care of you.

    Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭Car99


    Hi All

    I am a super anxious person and have to go for major surgery tomorrow. I have been all over the internet for past 3 weeks and read all the usual stuff about awareness etc so have scared myself silly. I have a few questions for anyone that can help ?

    1. I have a few mild bulging discs in back and neck so was wondering is the operating table actually soft and comfortable ? Or is it a hard slab of iron where i will be in bits after it :-)

    2. I know it will all be fine , i am taking a sedative in the morning before going in which has been discussed with the medical team etc but any nice anesthesia stories would be helpful please i.e. do you go to sleep really fast and then just wake up like no time has passed ?

    I know i might be sick with a bit of pain afterwards but i can handle that and will get whatever pain meds i need

    Going to be in hospital for a few nights

    Thanks all

    The staff will put you at ease , the operating theatre table is basically a bed it is comfortable .its a very relaxed atmosphere in my experience.
    The anesthesiologist will give you the anesthetic and it's just like quickly falling asleep.
    When you're coming round after surgery it is just like waking up but you'll feel a bit drowsy for a while but in a nice relaxed way.
    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    I'm not a gynaecologist, but I'll have a look.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,294 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Have had quite a few surgeries and those with the added complications of epilepsy and diabetes.
    They all went fine.

    It's usually a mild sedative an hour beforehand then you are taken to theatre with my last memory always being counting backwards from 100 and never getting past 96 ;)

    You will be well looked after, the table is comfy and remember for back surgery you'll likely be on your front anyway.

    Good luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Car99 wrote: »
    The staff will put you at ease , the operating theatre table is basically a bed it is comfortable .its a very relaxed atmosphere in my experience.
    The anesthesiologist will give you the anesthetic and it's just like quickly falling asleep.
    When you're coming round after surgery it is just like waking up but you'll feel a bit drowsy for a while but in a nice relaxed way.
    Good luck.

    This is great, thank you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    Had lots of gum surgery under sedation, enjoy it it's a nice drug. Had one general and again it's nothing to remember, count to .... the gone. The table should be padded but I've no clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    banie01 wrote: »
    Have had quite a few surgeries and those with the added complications of epilepsy and diabetes.
    They all went fine.

    It's usually a mild sedative an hour beforehand then you are taken to theatre with my last memory always being counting backwards from 100 and never getting past 96 ;)

    You will be well looked after, the table is comfy and remember for back surgery you'll likely be on your front anyway.

    Good luck with it.

    Thanks , no its thyroid surgery, not back surgery. I just mentioned that my back has a few dodgy discs and would be very sore if i lid on a hard surface for a few hours

    yeah they said to take a sedative myself (minor dose) and then they would balance it out inside with a little extra. They have been super helpful


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I can't help you with 1 cause I don't know either.

    2 is exactly how you describe it. Just relax and take deep breaths, and you will be out in seconds, and wake up afterwards just like waking from a deep sleep.

    I've never had major surgery, only minor stuff, in fact two of the three times I've been under general anesthetic is because I'm such a super anxious person they couldn't do easy stuff under local until I was unconscious. Anything else just ask and I will try to answer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Same as Greyzer. I don't remember a thing after I started counting. In fact I woke up thinking the op hadn't happened. I was a bit groggy for the test of the day. Try not to worry and best of luck. I hope it all goes well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,294 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Thanks , no its thyroid surgery, not back surgery. I just mentioned that my back has a few dodgy discs and would be very sore if i lid on a hard surface for a few hours

    No worries.
    Don't worry about the surface leaving you sore.
    Between the anaesthesia, muscle relaxants and post op pain relief you really will be grand.
    Be healthy, and the medical team will really do their utmost to answer any questions.
    So don't be afraid to ask.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Hi All

    I am a super anxious person and have to go for major surgery tomorrow. I have been all over the internet for past 3 weeks and read all the usual stuff about awareness etc so have scared myself silly. I have a few questions for anyone that can help ?

    1. I have a few mild bulging discs in back and neck so was wondering is the operating table actually soft and comfortable ? Or is it a hard slab of iron where i will be in bits after it :-)

    2. I know it will all be fine , i am taking a sedative in the morning before going in which has been discussed with the medical team etc but any nice anesthesia stories would be helpful please i.e. do you go to sleep really fast and then just wake up like no time has passed ?

    I know i might be sick with a bit of pain afterwards but i can handle that and will get whatever pain meds i need

    Going to be in hospital for a few nights

    Thanks all

    Recipient of multiple general anaesthetics over the years.

    The operating tables aren't a rock hard slab, but they're not a marshmallow either. They're a bit padded, but they can't be too soft or you'd be sinking away from the surgeon :) The combination of the sedative and the anaesthetic will have your muscles so relaxed that you won't wake up in bits from your bulging discs.

    For me the absolute worst bit of the whole thing is getting the canula (needle in the back of the hand) in, and that's just cos I'm a big wuss about needles. Realistically it's just a pinch for a few seconds. You'll probably have that done in a "prep" room just outside the theatre (or maybe in the theatre itself). The team there are used to people being nervous, and will chat away to you if you let them know. They'll explain what's happening at each stage, and are very reassuring.

    They'll tell you that they're starting the injection (which you won't feel) and you'll just drift off in under 10 seconds. You'll wake up in a different room without knowing anything about anything. If you're anything like me, you'll wake up, grumble a little, then conk out and sleep again. You'll have no idea what time it is.

    Two bits of advice from experience - when they say don't eat/drink anything after a certain time, that includes water! If your mouth feels dry, rinse and spit.
    If you're going home the same day, ask the nurses to explain any instructions about medication/after care to the person picking you up. They'll probably give you stuff written down, but I'm completely useless for the rest of the day, and incapable of grasping/remembering basic instructions, so it's handy to have someone with a working brain there to remember if it's 3 pills twice a day, or 3 pills three times a day ;)

    It's normal to feel a bit anxious, but remember that while it's new for you, they do this all the time. Depending on the lists, you may be hanging around for quite some time, but with lots of interruptions, so bring an "easy" book, or some crosswords or something to take your mind off things while you're waiting .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Thoie wrote: »
    Recipient of multiple general anaesthetics over the years.

    The operating tables aren't a rock hard slab, but they're not a marshmallow either. They're a bit padded, but they can't be too soft or you'd be sinking away from the surgeon :) The combination of the sedative and the anaesthetic will have your muscles so relaxed that you won't wake up in bits from your bulging discs.

    For me the absolute worst bit of the whole thing is getting the canula (needle in the back of the hand) in, and that's just cos I'm a big wuss about needles. Realistically it's just a pinch for a few seconds. You'll probably have that done in a "prep" room just outside the theatre (or maybe in the theatre itself). The team there are used to people being nervous, and will chat away to you if you let them know. They'll explain what's happening at each stage, and are very reassuring.

    They'll tell you that they're starting the injection (which you won't feel) and you'll just drift off in under 10 seconds. You'll wake up in a different room without knowing anything about anything. If you're anything like me, you'll wake up, grumble a little, then conk out and sleep again. You'll have no idea what time it is.

    Two bits of advice from experience - when they say don't eat/drink anything after a certain time, that includes water! If your mouth feels dry, rinse and spit.
    If you're going home the same day, ask the nurses to explain any instructions about medication/after care to the person picking you up. They'll probably give you stuff written down, but I'm completely useless for the rest of the day, and incapable of grasping/remembering basic instructions, so it's handy to have someone with a working brain there to remember if it's 3 pills twice a day, or 3 pills three times a day ;)

    It's normal to feel a bit anxious, but remember that while it's new for you, they do this all the time. Depending on the lists, you may be hanging around for quite some time, but with lots of interruptions, so bring an "easy" book, or some crosswords or something to take your mind off things while you're waiting .

    Yeah i should be going in around 10.30 or 11 they say, only one person before me. Will be staying 4 nights as with thyroid removal they need to monitor calcium levels etc.

    Great post above - thanks .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 choccymousse


    I write this from my hospital bed the day after surgery ! The anaesthetic was fine , like others said I didn’t even know they had started the injection, went off into the land of nod and woke up in the recovery room and believe shouted at the poor nurse to say they absolutely could not have done the operation yet and then fell back asleep 😂 I asked them afterwards to apologise to them and they told me I was probably the third person that day that had done that !
    I was very anxious coming in , the same as you . Usually the anaesthetist comes up before hand and I explained my fears and they put me at ease , I’ve done underlying conditions and they were very thorough
    Best of luck !


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It can be scary OP because it's so unknown and you're putting your faith in others to get you through. What helped me was trust in the medical team that I would be fine. I was given a sedative the morning of. That didn't really help my nerves but my surgery was elective so at the last minute I was a bit "shìte am I making a mistake".

    In the end I didn't have time to think because before I knew it I was hooked up to the anesthetic. Like others have said I counted backwards. It was a really nice feeling.
    And I did wake up! :pac:

    Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Is the IV put in hand / wrist as opposed to the middle of your arm like it is with CT scans etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Mr Meanor


    If your having major surgery or even minor surgery and are an anxious person..stay away from the internet!
    Listen to the professionals who are dealing with your case and tell them that you're anxious, they're used to dealing with anxious people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Mr Meanor wrote: »
    If your having major surgery or even minor surgery and are an anxious person..stay away from the internet!
    Listen to the professionals who are dealing with your case and tell them that you're anxious, they're used to dealing with anxious people.

    lol yeah i know. I have read it all and made a mess of things for myself but this thread has really really helped and calmed me down about tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Porklife


    Try not to worry OP, you'll be in very good hands. Its natural to feel anxious beforehand. Last time I went under I was convinced it wouldn't work but of course it did. I remember telling the doctor I was scared and he said where would you like to be right now? Where would be your idea of paradise? I said lying on a beach in Thailand and he smiled and said cose your eyes and go there. Next thing I know I'm in the recovery room drinking tea not a bother on me!
    I second the advice about having somebody with a working brain looking after for a couple of days afterwards but if you're being kept in for a few nights all the better.
    If I'm getting blood taken or a filling I often ask if I can put headphones on and if they'd tap my leg when it's all over. I immerse myself in the music and almost try to 'float' above myself and is it's not actually happening to me.
    And for the love of Jebus..stay away from the internet!!!
    Best of luck OP:)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Is the IV put in hand / wrist as opposed to the middle of your arm like it is with CT scans etc?

    It was put in to my hand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    I had surgery in March.
    There was a line in my arm (or hand).
    The doctor asked me to move over a bit on the operating table.
    Next think I knew I was waking up in recovery feeling great.

    You will be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Is the IV put in hand / wrist as opposed to the middle of your arm like it is with CT scans etc?

    It really depends - the back of your "off" hand is very common as the anaesthetist can be off to one side with your hand, leaving space closer to you for the surgeons. I have had it put in other places as well, depending on the site of the operation. If you're staying in for a few days they'll most likely go for the hand, as it's "handy" for other purposes later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    I had a surgery 2 weeks ago, was told to count down from 10, was asleep by the time I got to 6.

    When you wake up you will probably be in pain and might feel nauseous but they will give you some painkillers straight away to deal with that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭440Hertz


    I'd fairly major (5 hour) ear surgery done and it's quite remarkable how you don't really have any awareness of anything. It's not quite like being asleep either - it's more like snapping your fingers and you're back in the bed again.

    It's like one minute your chatting to them in the operating theatre the next minute you're in bed in the ward with an oxygen mask on and that's it really.

    I know it's different, as I wouldn't have had muscle relaxants and stuff like that, but I had pretty much no side effects at all from the aesthetic, even though I was out for a long time.

    I was a bit dozy the day after and had a huge bandage on my head and ear and I made a few odd phone calls that made little sense, but other than that I was grand.

    Best of luck though - I'm sure you'll be totally fine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,443 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Can’t remember now what the table was actually like when I had a hip replacement done last year, but I remember waking up as the consultant was just closing up and feeling nothing only the movement of being rocked up and down on the table while one of the medical team was showing me pictures of his pet dog on his phone.

    I didn’t really know what to say so I think I just gave him a sympathetic smile like “that’s lovely”, while the consultant finished stapling me up.

    I don’t know anything about what thyroid surgery involves but it’s natural to go over the worst case scenarios in your mind as opposed to imagining waking up and feeling like you just had an amazing sleep :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭delboythedub


    Best Of Luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭440Hertz


    Oh I'd just add don't do what I did!

    A nurse asked me to leave a urine sample in the bathroom. It was a ward with an ensuite. Anyway, I left one. There was a little sample jar (which I didn't see) and there was a large glass decorative vase, which I assumed I was supposed to fill.

    They had a good laugh at me anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    yeah its really amazing that you can be under for 5 hours and just wake up like nothing happened - i think first timers like myself have a hard time understand that .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭440Hertz


    I'd 3 further general aesthetics after that to change dressings, so it was a quick trip into a day ward - knocked out - did whatever it was they were doing and I was back to normal again, very quickly after, albeit high as a kite for the rest of the afternoon.

    Honestly, it's not that bad at all. You just remember nothing about it and you'll be back up having a cup of tea like as if it never happened. It's a bit of a sci-fi experience, but not in a bad way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    One other thing - when you wake up you'll be covered in wires/cables/tubes. All perfectly normal!

    While you're in recovery, they monitor your heart rate, blood pressure, blood oxygen, all those good things, but if you're not used to them it can be weird to wake up hooked up to all kinds of machines. Once you're properly awake they'll take them away. They beep and ping and occasionally alarms will go off - nothing to worry about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Hi All

    I am a super anxious person and have to go for major surgery tomorrow. I have been all over the internet for past 3 weeks and read all the usual stuff about awareness etc so have scared myself silly. I have a few questions for anyone that can help ?

    1. I have a few mild bulging discs in back and neck so was wondering is the operating table actually soft and comfortable ? Or is it a hard slab of iron where i will be in bits after it :-)

    2. I know it will all be fine , i am taking a sedative in the morning before going in which has been discussed with the medical team etc but any nice anesthesia stories would be helpful please i.e. do you go to sleep really fast and then just wake up like no time has passed ?

    I know i might be sick with a bit of pain afterwards but i can handle that and will get whatever pain meds i need

    Going to be in hospital for a few nights

    Thanks all

    Good luck. It will be over before you know it. A little bit of faffing in a chair as they get you gowned up, then off you go on a bed, and they'll ask you to count and you won't make it to 9, never mind 6, and the next thing you know it will be a cup of tea and relief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    You'll be fine. Only thing is when you wake up, it can sometimes be a bit confusing as in your mind no time has passed, and you wake up somewhere unfamiliar. You'll probably spout some nonsense as you come too, but don't worry, the nurses in recovery are well used to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    ha ha , sounds like fun (kind of)

    Wonder what makes some people sick after it and others fine. They asked me in pre op did i have travel sickness so maybe those people who have that have nausea after it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭440Hertz


    If you feel nauseous, make sure to tell them though. They've pretty good stuff for that and it makes a huge difference.

    In all likelihood, you probably won't. In general I think online and in folklore you tend to hear the outlying stories, not the 99% of experiences which are like: "was chatting about my holidays and then woke up in bed with a bandage and had a cup of tea."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Squiggle


    Yeah i should be going in around 10.30 or 11 they say, only one person before me. Will be staying 4 nights as with thyroid removal they need to monitor calcium levels etc.

    Great post above - thanks .

    Had a thyroid lobectomy due to lump on right lobe several years ago.

    I didn't have any problems afterwards and just mild discomfort for a few days but I didnt need painkillers other than what was given to me during the operation. I was out after two nights.

    If I was to do one thing differently it would be to take a sedative the night before to ease the nervousness, but you're doing that as you mentioned.

    Good luck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Squiggle wrote: »
    Had a thyroid lobectomy due to lump on right lobe several years ago.

    I didn't have any problems afterwards and just mild discomfort for a few days but I didnt need painkillers other than what was given to me during the operation. I was out after two nights.

    If I was to do one thing differently it would be to take a sedative the night before to ease the nervousness, but you're doing that as you mentioned.

    Good luck.

    Interesting, thanks for this post. Im getting a full thyroidectomy but procedure is much the same i suppose, just the same on the other side. Yeah the pain isnt supposed to be bad at all and most dont even need the good meds so ill see how i feel. I have to stay 4 nights cos of potential calcium issues if they clip the parathyroid gland or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Always remember these people are experts and are like mechanics fixing a vehicle. They will fix you up and you will be fine.

    Natural to be worried, but the thought of something is usually far far worse than the actual event.
    You are getting your body fixed up, and we are all made similar:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,869 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I was only sedated once and it's pretty amazing. Much like everyone on here all I remember was counting backwards and then being back in the room not believing the nurse that the procedure was over. You are just gone, no sensation of time having passed at all.

    I'm sure you will be fine OP. It's scary but you'll come through it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭sunnyday1234


    Thanks all - just got call saying my surgery has been changed to first in the morning so im due in theatre at 8.30 so no real waiting around - that will help greatly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    Thanks all - just got call saying my surgery has been changed to first in the morning so im due in theatre at 8.30 so no real waiting around - that will help greatly

    I had a similar experience, I think they are happy to take nervous patients early to avoid leaving them stewing.

    Really its just a case of jobs to do; you get yourself there, prepped as required and aware of any instructions, let them deal with the surgery and the anesthestic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Anytime I've had surgery, when I woke up they gave me tea and toast and it is the finest meal you could ever eat. It's like a Michelin star dinner. Post surgery toast is Gods food and worth looking forward to :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    I've had surgery a few times and was very anxious the first time. They couldn't have been nicer about it, if you still are in the morning tell them and they'll put you at ease.

    Anaesthetic kicks in so quickly. You'll probably feel drowsy but very relaxed afterwards. Any hint of discomfort (only once out of 4 times)& they'll give you something for it. Their drugs are good so you'll be sorted within minutes.

    When they let you eat, even if it's just dry toast, it tastes amazing. Never had a bad experience and completely undaunted after the first experience.

    Good luck, it'll be fine.


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