Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

bureau2009

blanch152 wrote: »

Firstly, there would have been no NDAs signed by the IMO, doesn't happen in such IR negotiations.

Secondly, I have already address the Official Secrets Act angle, the Taoiseach can authorise himself to release the document under that Act, so no offence committed.

If Varadkar authorised it strange he didn't tell us that in his Dail speech...….

bureau2009

bureau2009 wrote: »

If Varadkar authorised it strange he didn't tell us that in his Dail speech...….

You obviously didn’t listen to the Dail debate.

Bubbaclaus

weldoninhio wrote: »

Hogwash!! If this was any other politician, for example Pearse Doherty/Jack Chambers, and the info was passed onto some dolly bird, the insinuations would be a lot more vocal than they are with Leo. You want Leo treated differently because of his sexual orientation. That is plain to see.

Says a lot about you that if the President of NAGP was female, you would have seen her as "some dolly bird" in this story.

Cluedo Monopoly

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

The tribal and partisan backing of Leo is both predictable and hilarious. The same people are no doubt laughing at the idiocy of the jingoistic Trump supporters :rolleyes:

Conversely this happens in the SF bashing threads also with logic parked in place of tribal lines. The FG shills on here are acting the same as the SF shills on other threads and Trump shills elsewhere and gloating like kids. I hope ye can see that. Yer all the same so should just hug an make up

It's so true!

blanch152

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Says a lot about you that if the President of NAGP was female, you would have seen her as "some dolly bird" in this story.

It is very surprising to see such outdated attitudes towards sexual relationships portraying men as being easily preyed upon and women as tempting them into indiscretions.

If I was to suggest that say Mary-Lou was susceptible to the charms of some young lothario, I would be rightly laughed out of the thread. However, different standards are being applied to male politicians.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

However, different standards are being applied to male politicians.

Says the poster up in arms if he sees what he thinks is a reference to Leo's perfectly normal sexuality.

Classic!

McMurphy

blanch152 wrote: »

It is very surprising to see such outdated attitudes towards sexual relationships portraying men as being easily preyed upon and women as tempting them into indiscretions.

If I was to suggest that say Mary-Lou was susceptible to the charms of some young lothario, I would be rightly laughed out of the thread. However, different standards are being applied to male politicians.

Was that the line Fine Gaels Tom Barry tried to play when he tried to manhandle his party colleague Aine Collins Blanch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCS6H2d6scE

FrancieBrady

Jim O'Callaghan to keep the story going on Claire Byrne this morning. That meddlesome shinner opposition timewaster:)

weldoninhio

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Says a lot about you that if the President of NAGP was female, you would have seen her as "some dolly bird" in this story.

I never mentioned NAGP. If there were various pictures of a male SF politician wrapped around a good looking younger female, who was then leaked confidential documents, you'd have nothing to say about it?? Pull the other one, it has a bell on it. :rolleyes:

Bubbaclaus

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Says a lot about you that if the President of NAGP was female, you would have seen her as "some dolly bird" in this story.

well if she/he was running around town posting verbatim and speaking on behalf of the leader of our country, only to be denounced as an obsessed casual 3 times per year meeting contact in overlapping social circles, ON National Television..
then yes, dollybird or dollyboy, you wouldn't think much of either gender really
and you'd wonder how they over got to were they are posting money bags and speaking about immigrants like they were currency..

You'd have to wonder what yer mans prospects are now from today, surely his name is mud now?? his credibility is shot to **** having been labeled a pretend BFF according to Leo..there was al ot of "well I cannot speak on his behalf" GUFF from him, so why at this stage has the telly loving fame hungry covid guru to the stars not come to his own defence?

Nobotty

twowheelsonly wrote: »

Wow....That's just an unreal statement. Really shows the bigotry and lack of tolerance that exists within your party.

Over half a million people gave SF their first choice in the last election (I didn't BTW..) Almost 100k more that what FG got. Do you honestly think that all of those people match your demographic outlined above ?

Blind loyalty and blind hatred are really becoming the mantrta of FG supporters.

When you look at the States today,its systemic
Everything is polarised
Everyone standing by their man/woman bubble

Nobotty

Nobotty wrote: »

When you look at the States today,its systemic
Everything is polarised
Everyone standing by their man/woman bubble

Its headed same here..the supporters of the so called law and order/business party are backing their man,

When its obvious to anyone,who's tongue isnt attached to the FG party colon,that he done wrong here

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Its headed same here..the supporters of the so called law and order/business party are backing their man,

When its obvious to anyone,who's tongue isnt attached to the FG party colon,that he done wrong here

Yes, a very dangerous precedent is being set here that is more important than any individual. Hopefully O'Callaghan might turn it to a discussion about that precedent this morning.

We are shifting towards a dangerous democratic crossroads here as the power swap circle the wagons to maintain the power.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes, a very dangerous precedent is being set here that is more important than any individual. Hopefully O'Callaghan might turn it to a discussion about that precedent this morning.

We are shifting towards a dangerous democratic crossroads here as the power swap circle the wagons to maintain the power.

I think the bigger threat to our democracy is the toxic ideology of exclusionary nationalism as portrayed by Trump and Johnson overseas and practiced by Sinn Fein here.

One parallel that struck me this morning was the eerie link between Mary-Lou proclaiming victory before all the votes were counted and calling on other parties to acknowledge it and elect her Taoiseach and the Trump speech.

blanch152

blanch152 wrote: »

I think the bigger threat to our democracy is the toxic ideology of exclusionary nationalism as portrayed by Trump and Johnson overseas and practiced by Sinn Fein here.

One parallel that struck me this morning was the eerie link between Mary-Lou proclaiming victory before all the votes were counted and calling on other parties to acknowledge it and elect her Taoiseach and the Trump speech.

Meanwhile on planet earth,varadkar has been caugtht doing something wrong,claimed it was good intentions,same as trump and ukraine....

and the law and order party fell in line and backed their man

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

I think the bigger threat to our democracy is the toxic ideology of exclusionary nationalism as portrayed by Trump and Johnson overseas and practiced by Sinn Fein here.

One parallel that struck me this morning was the eerie link between Mary-Lou proclaiming victory before all the votes were counted and calling on other parties to acknowledge it and elect her Taoiseach and the Trump speech.

Jaysus, so easy to play your game blanch.

I found an eerie link to FG in Trump...the inability to accept defeat and arrogantly pronounce themselves as the only ones fit to lead.

See, easy and stupid game to play.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Jaysus, so easy to play your game blanch.

I found an eerie link to FG in Trump...the inability to accept defeat and arrogantly pronounce themselves as the only ones fit to lead.

See, easy and stupid game to play.

Short memories at play.

On election night, Fine Gael left it up to the other parties to try and form a government.

It was only when Mary-Lou failed to even get other parties to talk to her that Fine Gael reluctantly stepped in.

Holy Mary

Anybody pick up on Leo's reference to the Northern Ireland Anglo/Irish talks yesterday?
Wonder what he was alluding to?

JohnnyFlash

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes, a very dangerous precedent is being set here that is more important than any individual. Hopefully O'Callaghan might turn it to a discussion about that precedent this morning.

We are shifting towards a dangerous democratic crossroads here as the power swap circle the wagons to maintain the power.

The biggest threat to democracy in Ireland is a shadowy party linked to paramilitary and criminal figures who don’t recognise the legitimacy of the Irish constitution or its defence forces.

Bubbaclaus

weldoninhio wrote: »

I never mentioned NAGP. If there were various pictures of a male SF politician wrapped around a good looking younger female, who was then leaked confidential documents, you'd have nothing to say about it?? Pull the other one, it has a bell on it. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't. I don't tend to post about SF at all to be honest. Certainly wouldn't make suggestive comments about their personal lives without any basis in an attempt to add to a story.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Short memories at play.

On election night, Fine Gael left it up to the other parties to try and form a government.

It was only when Mary-Lou failed to even get other parties to talk to her that Fine Gael reluctantly stepped in.

Playing the game you are engaging in again:

They were only posturing at giving way to other parties forming a government. As soon as the opportunity presented itself to go in FF, they were in like Flynn...or John Delaney. Nudge nudge wink wink.

FrancieBrady

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The biggest threat to democracy in Ireland is a shadowy party linked to paramilitary and criminal figures who don’t recognise the legitimacy of the Irish constitution or its defence forces.

No such party exists Johnny. Can you link to were a modern political party has said the above?

FrancieBrady

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I wouldn't. I don't tend to post about SF at all to be honest. Certainly wouldn't make suggestive comments about their personal lives without any basis in an attempt to add to a story.

And that is the point. Nobody did make suggestive comments about Varadkar's relationship but those with the hang-ups are jumping on anything they see that may suggest that. I.E. The outrage about using the words 'bent' and 'back channels' yesterday. Taking offence where none was intended and calling people homophobes for questioning how close a friendship was.

Bubbaclaus

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And that is the point. Nobody did make suggestive comments about Varadkar's relationship but those with the hang-ups are jumping on anything they see that may suggest that. I.E. The outrage about using the words 'bent' and 'back channels' yesterday. Taking offence where none was intended and calling people homophobes for questioning how close a friendship was.

Big claim to make that "nobody" has made suggestive comments, when there is carded posts in this thread and Mattie McGrath existing as proof to the contrary.

FrancieBrady

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Big claim to make that "nobody" has made suggestive comments, when there is carded posts in this thread and Mattie McGrath existing as proof to the contrary.

Those posts were not 'suggestive' they were very blatantly homophobic and rightly carded. The problem here is that there are people with their own issues about same sex relationships seeing suggestive comments were none were intended.

Bubbaclaus

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Those posts were not 'suggestive' they were very blatantly homophobic and rightly carded. The problem here is that there are people with their own issues about same sex relationships seeing suggestive comments were none were intended.

Well my issue is with the obvious ones, so I don't know what you are trying to explain to me.

smurgen

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The biggest threat to democracy in Ireland is a shadowy party linked to paramilitary and criminal figures who don’t recognise the legitimacy of the Irish constitution or its defence forces.

What has this got to do with Leo Varadkar providing commercially sensitive contracts to a party outside of a negotiating process?

blanch152

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Well my issue is with the obvious ones, so I don't know what you are trying to explain to me.

Things are being invented again.

ohnonotgmail

smurgen wrote: »

What has this got to do with Leo Varadkar providing commercially sensitive contracts to a party outside of a negotiating process?

*Look over there!*

RandomViewer

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The biggest threat to democracy in Ireland is a shadowy party linked to paramilitary and criminal figures who don’t recognise the legitimacy of the Irish constitution or its defence forces.

FG and the Monk?