Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

blanch152

markodaly wrote: »

So, that in essence is a very long admission that, No, there is no proof that FG/Leo/Da Gubermnet have editorial control over any media outlet.

Remember, I asked for proof, not long winded storytelling.

Fairy tales and conspiracy theories are probably the lowest form of storytelling.

blanch152

skimpydoo wrote: »

I am an Irish Citizen who moved back here in 1996. My father was an FF supporter. So when I voted in 1997 and 2002 I voted FF. In 2005 I changed my constituency in Dublin and I knew that FF was ****ing up the country. I saw one of my local councilors appeared to be very active so I gave Lucinda Creighton my only vote with no second, third, or fourth preferences.

In 2011 I knew I could not vote FF, FG, or Labour so I voted independent, Paul Sommerville and Dylan Haskins. in 2016 I voted Social Democrats. in the last election, I voted SF and then SD. I did not want what we now have in power.

We need a change in this country, where we can have a government with no ties to big business, banks, finance, and the Judiciary. If SF **** can they **** up as bad as FF, FG and labour have down the years? If they do a bad job we vote them out. Why are people scared of them being in government when for the past 100 years we have had shysters all out for themselves and their pals.

Why are people so readily willing to vote for a party that bankrupted the country and for a party whose members jump ship to become lobbyists?

To those of you who bring up SF's track record in the north, you conveniently forget to mention that their hands are tied because they are in coalition with the DUP.

FF has had 2 TD's rightly resign over Golfgate so it's not too much for Leo to step aside until the Gardai investigation is complete. If the Gardai conclude Leo has nothing to answer for he can go right back in as Taniste and the government portfolios he had.

Leo is arrogant and will never do the right thing until he is forced to.

So Michelle O'Neill couldn't resign when she was under PSNI investigation (I think she still is) because SF's hands are tied because they are in coalition with the DUP.

Of all the bizarre excuses in the world........

maccored

blanch152 wrote: »

So Michelle O'Neill couldn't resign when she was under PSNI investigation (I think she still is) because SF's hands are tied because they are in coalition with the DUP.

Of all the bizarre excuses in the world........

different ballgame.

the legality of Leo's leaking of info is being investigated by AGS.

Leo openly admitted to handing over the document

O'Neill's investigation by the PSNI (assuming you means last Junes covid claims at the funeral and the one where by Nov 2020 they hadnt even interviewed her) was completed and send to the PPS last December.

O'Neill disputes the claim she broke Covid 19 restrictions.

Those are not the same so I don't see why you pretend they are.

James Brown

maccored wrote: »

different ballgame.

the legality of Leo's leaking of info is being investigated by AGS.

Leo openly admitted to handing over the document

O'Neill's investigation by the PSNI (assuming you means last Junes covid claims at the funeral and the one where by Nov 2020 they hadnt even interviewed her) was completed and send to the PPS last December.

O'Neill disputes the claim she broke Covid 19 restrictions.

Those are not the same so I don't see why you pretend they are.

I do. Desperation and deflection. The usual.

maccored

James Brown wrote: »

I do. Desperation and deflection. The usual.

well - besides that (its a given at this stage)

costacorta

maccored wrote: »

different ballgame.

the legality of Leo's leaking of info is being investigated by AGS.

Leo openly admitted to handing over the document

O'Neill's investigation by the PSNI (assuming you means last Junes covid claims at the funeral and the one where by Nov 2020 they hadnt even interviewed her) was completed and send to the PPS last December.

O'Neill disputes the claim she broke Covid 19 restrictions.

Those are not the same so I don't see why you pretend they are.

Oh so she disputes them even though we all seen the TV shots and photographs but I. Suppose she denies that’s her in photos 😀.
Then you have Gerry denying he was a member of the RA even though half his former comrades have come out and said he was !!

Ye guys are the gift that keep on giving and that’s why nobody cares or takes SF/IRA seriously..

smurgen

Just keeps getting worse for him optics wise.

https://twitter.com/VillageMagIRE/status/1371855099929235461?s=19

Johnthemanager

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Rather difficult to ‘argue’ with someone who has thrown stones through windows in the past criticizing you for throwing stones through windows in the present, euphemistically speaking.

You don’t really have much credibility.

Be kinda difficult to take it if a Garda for instance,arrests you for being ‘found on a premises’ when you saw him/her in the same premises after hours and off duty last week.

That’s how it rolls, a chara.

So finally, your admitting Leo committed a crime.

Well done Brendo lad, wasn't that hard was it?

Dempo1

Quite extraordinary MM refusing to deal with this, I get he's terrified of collapsing Government but its just shocking that any government minister would be permitted to serve whilst they are being criminally investigated, I guess it says more about Leaky Leo who seems oblivious as to how this looks. The Bizzare argument he gives is He has Legal advice he's done nothing illegal or wrong (but yet he's on record apologising) , I would have thought that's for the DPP to decide and Jury to deliberate on should a prosecution be advised. It's a bit like the lotto saying "it could be you" when it never actually is.

Brendan Bendar

Johnthemanager wrote: »

So finally, your admitting Leo committed a crime.

Well done Brendo lad, wasn't that hard was it?

Where did I admit Leo committed a crime..... dude there’s a Garda investigation going on here..... let’s wIt for the outcome.


Stop dreaming dude.

James Brown

costacorta wrote: »

Oh so she disputes them even though we all seen the TV shots and photographs but I. Suppose she denies that’s her in photos ��.
Then you have Gerry denying he was a member of the RA even though half his former comrades have come out and said he was !!

Ye guys are the gift that keep on giving and that’s why nobody cares or takes SF/IRA seriously..

'cept the electorate.
Still hurts I see...

jmcc

costacorta wrote: »

Ye guys are the gift that keep on giving and that’s why nobody cares or takes SF/IRA seriously..

The electorate voted to give SF more seats than FG. If they don't take SF seriously then what does that say about your beloved FG?

Regards...jmcc

costacorta

James Brown wrote: »

'cept the electorate.
Still hurts I see...

Only ones I see hurting Is the Shinnerbots as nobody would be bothered with them and now they are where they will stay in opposition .

Michael and Leo Will run the country while Mary The Moaner does what she does best ..

Enjoy next few years and keep up the keyboard warrior work you do for your beloved SF/IRA

James Brown

costacorta wrote: »

Only ones I see hurting Is the Shinnerbots as nobody would be bothered with them and now they are where they will stay in opposition .

Michael and Leo Will run the country while Mary The Moaner tries does what she does best ..

Enjoy next few years and keep up the keyboard warrior work you do for your beloved SF/IRA

Look at the thread title. Then look at your comments.
Now, what were you saying?

Wanting Varadkar held accountable should be the goal of all parties. But if you want to believe it's only shinners...whatever works.

costacorta

James Brown wrote: »

Look at the thread title. Then look at your comments.
Now, what were you saying?

Wanting Varadkar held accountable should be the goal of all parties. But if you want to believe it's only shinners...whatever works.

Yep you’re right there so let the Garda do their job and don’t be listening to Mary the moaner . Wait for the Garda to make a decision and if he is found guilty then yes he should go .

thomas 123

costacorta wrote: »

Yep you’re right there so let the Garda do their job and don’t be listening to Mary the moaner . Wait for the Garda to make a decision and if he is found guilty then yes he should go .

Do you mind having a bit of respect for our opposition leader please?

Don’t understand why personal attacks on Varadkar are policed but not attacks on opposition.

I for one am happy somebody is highlighting the cabal.

blanch152

costacorta wrote: »

Yep you’re right there so let the Garda do their job and don’t be listening to Mary the moaner . Wait for the Garda to make a decision and if he is found guilty then yes he should go .

No need to call her Mary the moaner, could be interpreted as misogyny.

That being said, your main point stands. Why Martin would bother his arse responding to a letter from Mary-Lou is beyond me. She has no idea how to build relationships with other politicians and political parties. Not a single clue. That is why all other parties shunned her after the election and Martin can just disregard her.

Crying and whinging when he refuses to answer her letter is loser speak.

Floppybits

blanch152 wrote: »

No need to call her Mary the moaner, could be interpreted as misogyny.

That being said, your main point stands. Why Martin would bother his arse responding to a letter from Mary-Lou is beyond me. She has no idea how to build relationships with other politicians and political parties. Not a single clue. That is why all other parties shunned her after the election and Martin can just disregard her.

Crying and whinging when he refuses to answer her letter is loser speak.

Is it or is it showing the public what an arrogant person he is? I suppose it depends on the view point, me I would see as the leader of the country being arrogant and unprofessional and someone out of his depth. Basically rather than face up to the issue he has gone into hiding and hoping this all goes away.

Suckit

As much as I would, on that I see it was an attempt at blowing back their own BS on SF voters. But I haven't ever seen or hear them cry that. Only one party crying sexism, misogyny, racism, ageism, homophobic etc. When unable to deal with anything else.

blanch152

Floppybits wrote: »

Is it or is it showing the public what an arrogant person he is? I suppose it depends on the view point, me I would see as the leader of the country being arrogant and unprofessional and someone out of his depth. Basically rather than face up to the issue he has gone into hiding and hoping this all goes away.

Trivial person writing to Taoiseach in trivial terms about a trivial issue gets a suitably trivial response. Why would anyone be surprised by that?

Floppybits

blanch152 wrote: »

Trivial person writing to Taoiseach in trivial terms about a trivial issue gets a suitably trivial response. Why would anyone be surprised by that?

I am glad you see a member of the government being under criminal investigation as trivial. It shall be remember when you come on here moaning, complaining and looking for resignation over 3 year old tweets. You seem to make stupid tweets a higher priority than the Tainiste of the country leaking confidential documents to his mates. I know you have a Hatred for Sinn Fein and anything that does not conform to what you want but still at some stage you will have to climb down off that high horse you love to preach from and admit what Varadkar has done has serious implications.

The arrogance from you astounding. Absolutely astounding.

jmcc

blanch152 wrote: »

Trivial person writing to Taoiseach in trivial terms about a trivial issue gets a suitably trivial response. Why would anyone be surprised by that?

You may thing that this is a trivial issue but to the Gardai, it is a criminal investigation into the leaking of a confidential document by the then taoiseach. Martin probably knows that his fate is intertwined with that of Varadkar and his support for the leaker has only moved up the date of his own inevitable political demise as FFers run out of patience with his wannabe FGer actions.

Regards...jmcc

blanch152

jmcc wrote: »

You may thing that this is a trivial issue but to the Gardai, it is a criminal investigation into the leaking of a confidential document by the then taoiseach. Martin probably knows that his fate is intertwined with that of Varadkar and his support for the leaker has only moved up the date of his own inevitable political demise as FFers run out of patience with his wannabe FGer actions.

Regards...jmcc

Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into perjury.
Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into membership of the PIRA.
Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into a murder conspiracy charge.

SF leader didn't step aside during those.

golfball37

blanch152 wrote: »

Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into perjury.
Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into membership of the PIRA.
Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into a murder conspiracy charge.

SF leader didn't step aside during those.

Leo varadkar is sf biggest vote getter. Your constant defense of him and the way he does politics only increases their vote. If your views and beliefs are genuinely held then you need to undergo some rigorous self examination. There are plenty out there who can lead the challenge to keep sf out of govt. The busted flush Leo should not be part of that process

Jinglejangle69

blanch152 wrote: »

Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into perjury.
Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into membership of the PIRA.
Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into a murder conspiracy charge.

SF leader didn't step aside during those.

Why would they?

They don't take responsibility or ever admit to anything wrong in the party.

blanch152

golfball37 wrote: »

Leo varadkar is sf biggest vote getter. Your constant defense of him and the way he does politics only increases their vote. If your views and beliefs are genuinely held then you need to undergo some rigorous self examination. There are plenty out there who can lead the challenge to keep sf out of govt. The busted flush Leo should not be part of that process

You can't deny people the right to hold certain views, that is typical of a totalitarian approach, similar to the type of terrorist hold that SF/IRA had over the nationalists in the North, do it our way or get shot.

Leo Varadkar has not been charged with any crime. If he is, then I will consider my view. In my opinion, no crime has been committed.

jmcc

blanch152 wrote: »

Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into perjury.
Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into membership of the PIRA.
Nothing compared to a criminal investigation into a murder conspiracy charge.

SF leader didn't step aside during those.

This is a live criminal investigation into the activities of one Leo Varadkar who was taoiseach and admitted leaking a confidential document to his friend. The results of the Garda investigation will be submitted to the DPP. Your leader is the subject of a criminal investigation. He's not quite the honourable FG type, is he? Otherwise he would have had the decency to have stood down while being investigated.

Regards...jmcc

BackOfMyBag

blanch152 wrote: »

You can't deny people the right to hold certain views, that is typical of a totalitarian approach, similar to the type of terrorist hold that SF/IRA had over the nationalists in the North, do it our way or get shot.

Leo Varadkar has not been charged with any crime. If he is, then I will consider my view. In my opinion, no crime has been committed.

this is obviously nonsense as sf only seen their vote dramatically increase in the north after the good ftiday agreement and the ira cessation of violence and weapons decommissioned .
i do not live in ireland these days, but keep a keen eye on things politically, I bet denis naughton and a few others are seething at having being forced to resign while leo varadkar laughs at them .

Jinglejangle69

BackOfMyBag wrote: »

this is obviously nonsense as sf only seen their vote dramatically increase in the north after the good ftiday agreement and the ira cessation of violence and weapons decommissioned .
i do not live in ireland these days, but keep a keen eye on things politically, I bet denis naughton and a few others are seething at having being forced to resign while leo varadkar laughs at them .

Denis Naughton resigned because it could be seen he could gain financially by his actions.

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Denis Naughton resigned because it could be seen he could gain financially by his actions.

Why did Dara Colleary resign?