Remote working public servants not entitled to take flexi time.

horsebox7

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Longer hours? The average working week is less in the private sector.

Think logically, there's far more zero hour contracts and part time staff in the private sector. I and a lot of public sector staff work more than 40 hours as standard. 42 hours is my working week for example. I worked 40 in the private sector albeit with unpaid overtime (salaried position, not hourly) and from what I can see there's a lot of places now offering 30 to 35 as 'full-time'.

Same with flexi time, it's becoming more and more common. Most of the large tech companies staff are on it.

Lastly, they are doing their hours. They are taking time off in leu of payment for extra hours worked aka overtime.

Again, it's a condition of the employment. Why should they just give it up?

Agree

horsebox7

Karlos77 wrote: »

Invalid

NA

jaffusmax

I am all for flexi-time for those working from home on the proviso they are electronically tagged and within 5 feet of their pc during office hours.

Karlos77

horsebox7 wrote: »

NA

You are the Irish Trump...I would prefer to listen to Trump. ..the smell of horse maneure from your box is sickening


You are a disgrace to the civil service

horsebox7

Karlos77 wrote: »

You are the Irish Trump...I would prefer to listen to Trump. ..the smell of horse maneure from your box is sickening


You are a disgrace to the civil service

You sound like you are angry. Have you considered anger management?

horsebox7

jaffusmax wrote: »

I am all for flexi-time for those working from home on the proviso they are electronically tagged and within 5 feet of their pc during office hours.

May be challenging to achieve your criteria in a democratic republic.

Karlos77

horsebox7 wrote: »

You sound like you are angry. Have you considered anger management?

Fake news

1hnr79jr65

horsebox7 wrote: »

Due to unprecedented cv19 arrangements public servants including those working in the local authority sector are not entitled to take flexi leave while those who are office based are entitled to take flexi leave which is unfair.

I've had no job for most of the year, I would happily do your job under the current conditions you have outlined just to had a job. I would love to work from home and get paid, safe from potential covid interactions, comfortable in my own surroundings without other staff to bug me so I can work without distraction, still able to get some stuff done around house while working and not have to fork out for travel to work and lunches, can have nice prepped fresh food.

You seem to claim how its unfair it is compared to those who must attend office having a benefit without realizing or caring how unfair it is for those staff attending office having to risk more covid exposure, higher spending with travel etc.

Its no wonder a folks see the public service as a lazy number for many, a lot of greedy folks who make petty demands and throw tantrums when they don't get their way without consideration for others.

Please forward me your reporting managers details so I can take your role as you feel so aggrieved.

horsebox7

Sour Lemonz wrote: »

I've had no job for most of the year, I would happily do your job under the current conditions you have outlined just to had a job. I would love to work from home and get paid, safe from potential covid interactions, comfortable in my own surroundings without other staff to bug me so I can work without distraction, still able to get some stuff done around house while working and not have to fork out for travel to work and lunches, can have nice prepped fresh food.

You seem to claim how its unfair those who must attend office having a benefit without realizing or caring how unfair it is for those staff attending office having to risk more covid exposure, higher spending with travel etc.

Its no wonder a folks see the public service as a lazy number for many, a lot of greedy folks who make petty demands and throw tantrums when they don't get their way without consideration for others.

Please forward me your reporting managers details so I can take your role as you feel so aggrieved.

You have my sympathies. However l believe conditions for remote working should be equal.

noodler

horsebox7 wrote: »

You have my sympathies. However l believe conditions for remote working should be equal.

It's been explained that you are operating on a false premise.

You should focus on being a good employee after causing so much trouble earlier in the year for refusing to work or work from home.

1hnr79jr65

horsebox7 wrote: »

You have my sympathies. However l believe conditions for remote working should be equal.

And that is where you are wrong, you think by remote working you are missing out on flexi time, what about those going to office are missing out on working from home. I am sure a lot of those people do not want to be there and would prefer your position.

Why not swap with someone in office if you feel so strongly and it is an option?

horsebox7

noodler wrote: »

It's been explained that you are operating on a false premise.

You should focus on being a good employee after causing so much trouble earlier in the year for refusing to work or work from home.

Rubbish.

horsebox7

Sour Lemonz wrote: »

And that is where you are wrong, you think by remote working you are missing out on flexi time, what about those going to office are missing out on working from home. I am sure a lot of those people do not want to be there and would prefer your position.

Why not swap with someone in office if you feel so strongly and it is an option?

Thanks for your advice

horsebox7

Perhaps remote working staff could have the same conditions they had before the unprecedented pandemic, which is more than likely going to be around for the foreseeable.

horsebox7

horsebox7 wrote: »

Perhaps remote working staff could have the same conditions they had before the unprecedented pandemic, which is more than likely going to be around for the foreseeable.

its very hard to see yr case as genuine with the amount of effort you are putting into replies.

have you spoken to yr manager or yr hr

while the pandemic is ongoing, youve no case for looking for things to return to normal

thats all been said to you many times

Rodin

So many in the public sector think they're really hard done by...they need a wake-up call....

Rodin

Rodin wrote: »

So many in the public sector think they're really hard done by...they need a wake-up call....

so many in the private sector misunderstand how anything non-profit works

Sultan of Bling

There are some but i wouldn't say so many.

Not in the place i work anyway, but i will admit there is a couple when they start their bleating, i want to bury my fist in their faces.

horsebox7

[Deleted User] wrote: »

its very hard to see yr case as genuine with the amount of effort you are putting into replies.

have you spoken to yr manager or yr hr

while the pandemic is ongoing, youve no case for looking for things to return to normal

thats all been said to you many times

Yes. Thanks for your genuine advice.

relax carry on

How is this thread still going? The OP has displayed they have no interest in any of the advice/answers they have been given. They are waiting for someone to pop along and tell them that their moaning is justified.

Sour Lemonz

Sour Lemonz wrote: »

I've had no job for most of the year, I would happily do your job under the current conditions you have outlined just to had a job. I would love to work from home and get paid, safe from potential covid interactions, comfortable in my own surroundings without other staff to bug me so I can work without distraction, still able to get some stuff done around house while working and not have to fork out for travel to work and lunches, can have nice prepped fresh food.

You seem to claim how its unfair it is compared to those who must attend office having a benefit without realizing or caring how unfair it is for those staff attending office having to risk more covid exposure, higher spending with travel etc.

Its no wonder a folks see the public service as a lazy number for many, a lot of greedy folks who make petty demands and throw tantrums when they don't get their way without consideration for others.

Please forward me your reporting managers details so I can take your role as you feel so aggrieved.

Are you seriously suggesting that working from home is a public sector thing? Seriously?

www.publicjobs.ie

has, is and will continue to recruit. If you didnt join between 2008 and now, thats entirely on you. Correct your error and apply

Nody

Mod:
This thread is heading down the old "public vs. private" job rabbit hole for a while now; OP has gotten answers even if OP may not like them and the thread is going in circles without progress while generating an inordinate amount of noise.