Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121738800#Comment_121738800

I’ve had a BMW for many years, countless number of them actually. The lack of stalks won’t bother me 👀

Dagryl

LOL. I must be one of the few BMW drivers who care. 😛

Redfox25

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121741246#Comment_121741246

There is always one..........

Lol, only kidding, dont touch that indicator stalk.

Gumbo

Some RWD V LR Review

Spolier. Based on the efficiency, 460km range from the RWD. Considering its battery of 60 kWh gross, that’s fantastic compared to the opposition who generally have 82 kWh (Seal), 82 kWh (ID4), 77 kWh (Ioniq 5)….Im sure I’m missing a few here….

https://youtu.be/E4Ot554OBO0?si=ILFMJOBxfmboiBKs

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121710086#Comment_121710086

Not running AC for months is a sure fire way to cause expensive ac repair problems . They need to be run every so often you have to circulate them and free up the pump.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755667#Comment_121755667

+1

They dry out too.

GPoint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755857#Comment_121755857

AC needs to be re-gas’ed every three years. People never care to service it and wondering after few years why it’s not cooling the car anymore.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755638#Comment_121755638

Very similar to what my 2022 Model 3 RWD indicates for normal mixed driving. Not sure about the range of 460km though.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755894#Comment_121755894

Agree. I have mine on auto. Just select the temp and the car sorts it all out.

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755894#Comment_121755894

Really? I would have thought there's no need as long as there's no leak.

GPoint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121756408#Comment_121756408

Compressor loses about 10% of gas per year, naturally. In a fully sealed and vacuum tested system. So in 5 years there will be half of the required amount in the system . Also there is lubricant added so it’s good to re gas the system. I went to AC service with my 6 year old car which had full dealer service history and it only had 52% in the system ! Just shows how even a main dealer don’t care. Re-gas’ed it and it was freezing cold even at 20 degree. Your fingers should be freezing if you put them into a vent on a lowest AC settings. But the service use a temp gauge of course to check it’s working at full power.

Also good to do ozone treatment every so often. Eliminates bad smells before they develop into a nasty mould.

slave1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121755638#Comment_121755638

From scanmytesla, 30% of the energy I used in my Model S was due to regenerative braking, the Tesla can suck a huge amount through regen

3d4life

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121756473#Comment_121756473

< going off on a tangent here >

One of the cars that I look after is an old, old derv Octavia. It has climate control. CC usually off. On at most 10 days in the year. Never recharged CC. Always works when its turned on. ( Think its an '02 model ).

Is 'the new' refrigerant a smaller molecule size than was used in '02 era cars ? if not then what has changed that newer system seem to be so inclined to let their refrigerant leak ?

GPoint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121758214#Comment_121758214

R1234yf gas has been around for a while and all cars newer than 2017 have it. Main benefit was safer for the earth and uses less power from engine to run the compressor with this gas.

If your car still blows some cool air it does not mean it has not lost any amount of gas and also does not mean all parts inside compressor are in good condition.

If the amount of gas drops compressor gas to work harder too.

Drop to any garage servicing AC and they will explain you all this.

Luckily there are plenty now unlike many years ago when you were looked at like an idiot if you asked to service AC.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121758397#Comment_121758397

You'll have a very hard time convincing the "experts" on here. The place is getting as bad as facebook. "But it still works" is a very common response. 🫣

Luna84

I watched Scotty Kilmer many times on YouTube and he even says it many times in different videos. Regarding the ac leaks out a small bit to lubricate the seals if it was a completely sealed system the seals would burn out in no time from friction and then your AC system would need expensive repairs rather than just top up the coolant.

Zoom Zoom

Hi all, I posted this comment in the Model 3/Y Waiting Room Delivery separate thread in Boards. Re-posting it here for those of you debating buying a Model 3, hope it helps... specifically those weighing up whether to buy the M3 RWD v M3 Dual Motor. After much debate I went with the former for 6 main reasons (1) Including the financing cost, the Dual Motor was €13,500 more over the 5 year term; (2) Yes I would have loved the 490 BHP but in fairness I don't think any mortal will climb out of the RWD and think "I wish it had a bit of poke" since it is still nuts fast by conventional comparison; (3) I don't need all wheel drive & I suspect 90% plus M3 owners in the same boat; (4) Dropping from 17 to 9 speakers - I look on it as going from my current set-up to a really good 9 speaker set-up which lots of reviewers online are very impressed with; (5) The quoted extra 100km of range for Dual Motor v RWD would have been very nice, but this brings me to my final consideration... (6) For those of you who don't know, the RWD uses LFP battery chemistry v. traditional NMC chemistry on the Dual Motor - LFP offers 3 distinct benefits (Can charge to 100% regularly, far more sustainably sourced than rare earth minerals on the NMC, and will degrade less over time). So if you charge the Dual Motor to 90% as recommended by Tesla, versus 100% on the RWD, the real range difference drops to under 50km (of course you can charge the NMC to 100% when needed). I hope these thoughts are useful to those of you on the fence. And to those who have gone Dual Motor, well done you lot and you're gonna love the extra poke and speakers 😁

handpref

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121766310#Comment_121766310

Good post @Zoom Zoom

Thinking of similar but with a 2020 LR v a 2021 sr LFP…

Heat pump & revised headlights on the 2021 make no odds to me but the awd would be nice paired with the high power output of the LR dual motor.

Zoom Zoom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121766406#Comment_121766406

Thanks handpref. Second hand I'd definitely stretch to the Dual Motor. I heard from a reputable dealer in the trade that the pricing of second hand Dual Motor Model 3's will correct itself by the end of Q2 2024 - so I'd say there will be some cracking value to be had by the summer. €41,832 for a brand new RWD with all the considerable improvements meant for me a second hand Dual Motor needs to be €30k - €32k... and according to the above this will happen by mid-summer here. Let's see if he is Nostradamus or Talkingouthisarseamus 😂

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121766310#Comment_121766310

I don't think any mortal will climb out of the RWD and think "I wish it had a bit of poke"

I didn't until I test drove a Model 3 Performance..... ruined my car forever that day.

Gile_na_gile

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121766488#Comment_121766488

That Graham Walker 2020 AWD in black was for sale private two weeks ago 31k asking so that was a ballpark price if for 30k, and in line with new pricing. Now asking 34k...

Personally, I love the acceleration on the older NMC SR+ with 980 motor and can't bring myself to swap it for slower now, so from here it's LR or nowt. I might snap one up if in a colour I like (black, msm, blue), but of course the SR+ itself is taking a beating now due to M3H buyers dumping their old models on DD at the same time.

Zoom Zoom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121767361#Comment_121767361

For credibility & more context: the dealer in question works with Finance Ireland Motor & Leasing who do a lot of the finance on behalf of Tesla... it is they who will be adjusting their second hand AWD pricing in the coming months. These will likely be 2021 models which were bought by businesses on 3 year leases, some 2020 AWD models on 4 year leases too. Circa €30k, from a dealer, that's the kind of number I've heard. If you're considering a second hand AWD I'd be tempted to hold fire until the summer & track this to see if it materialises... but then again life is short etc etc 😉

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121766310#Comment_121766310

It’s a personal decision to make. But when i her out of the RWD, I do state that “I wish it had a bit of poke” but that’s because I’ve had 3 performance models.

I kinda ignore the cost personally as over the years I could have saved a fortune by buying the 2.0d instead of the S3, or the 20d instead of the 35d, or the 40d instead of the M50d. Feck it.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121768884#Comment_121768884

I'm very close to pulling trigger on a LR. Have driven a couple of std versions and one with acceleration boost activated which had a nice bit of additional poke. Up to now I've stayed away from M3P but one has come up near me and I'm tempted to take it for a test drive. The one concern I have is with the 20" wheels as I live on rural roads with potholes galore. Am I likely to have issues with the 20" wheels and would I be better off with LR with 18" wheels.

JOL1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121769215#Comment_121769215

Specifically regarding wheels the differences are that some regard the look of 20" as nicer but the negatives are a firmer ride, lower range and more expensive to replace. But if its a used car you may not have a choice if you want the car and changing to smaller wheels will be costly/hassle. It all comes down to personal choice

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121769215#Comment_121769215

The 20” wheels are fine but on normal roads. I’d fear rural roads would taint your experience.

You could get the P and change to 18” or 19” wheels for comfort. You’ll then sell the P 20” wheels easily enough I’d imagine.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121769533#Comment_121769533

I have the standard 18”wheels on my Rwd. But I did recently drive a LR with the 19” wheels. I thought they handled the very bad roads I tested the car on better than mine.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121770600#Comment_121770600

Yes I like the look of the 19" wheels and think they are a better option that the 20" on rural roads. Have hit a couple of bad potholes recently on dark wet rural roads around me. Could have been a very expensive experience on those 20"

cdn16

Hi all, anyone had a recent experience with Tesla Mobile Service for Tire Rotation? I’m at 10k mark on my MY. This is my first time servicing anything for the car. The quote for the mobile service is at €90. I’m not too sure if this is ok or too much for the job.

JOL1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121775412#Comment_121775412

A few months back this cost 54