Tyrrelstown review

Caroline0680

Hi all,

I am looking to buy in Mount Garrett and wanted to have feedback from people living in the area

I know already about the usual issues teenagers, littering etc but other than that is it a safe place to live in ?

Thanks in advance

Nijmegen

Lot of renters, plenty of teenage related trouble, but nothing serious like what you get down the road in parts of Mulhuddart for example. Know some folks who own(ed) in there and none of them were really selling it when describing it, to be honest.

VeVeX

I've had almost zero teenager trouble in 14 years living in Mount Garrett. Other then the likes of footballs hitting cars etc. but that's abated since most of the kids are that bit older now. Some houses could be better kept but on the whole most are reasonably well maintained. Mount Garrett is probably the best part of the estate, its quiet, there's no rat runs etc. The majority of residents where I am are owner occupiers and are here since day one.

ra0044

Have been in Tyrrelstown 17 years trouble free.

Small pockets of the estate have had issues through the years usually caused by a few teens who either move on or grow up in time. You have to remember that it is a huge estate.( about 2400 units) It is the equivalent of 7 or 8 estates in one.

I honestly think it is a nice place to live. We have a nice group of neighbours and I walk the estate every day with the dog and it is usually very peaceful out and about. Even late at night I have had no issues.

If you get involved with the local residents group and just enjoy the place for what you make of it rather than listening to the moaners and critics on line you will have no problems.

Epping Forest

There's a major gang problem in tyrrelstown that obviously people who own property there don't like publicised as their property values will drop. A quick Google search will reveal all. There's a reason it's 1 of the cheapest parts of Dublin 15 to buy in. You get what you pay for. Do a Google search for "tyrrelstown gangs" if you don't believe me.

LorelaiG

Epping Forest wrote: »

There's a major gang problem in tyrrelstown that obviously people who own property there don't like publicised as their property values will drop. A quick Google search will reveal all. There's a reason it's 1 of the cheapest parts of Dublin 15 to buy in. You get what you pay for. Do a Google search for "tyrrelstown gangs" if you don't believe me.

You obviously don't live in Tyrellstown... :rolleyes:

Don't mind this poster.

HotDudeLife

Avoid like the plague

Caroline0680

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Avoid like the plague

Could you please be more specific ? Thanks

Polar101

Epping Forest wrote: »

Do a Google search for "tyrrelstown gangs" if you don't believe me.

That stuff is from, 2010 or so?

Caranica

As a regular visitor rather than resident, the only issue I notice is woefully inadequate parking.

sasta le

Culture wars

Nijmegen

Polar101 wrote: »

That stuff is from, 2010 or so?

There was some more recent stuff involving taxi drivers. https://dublingazette.com/news/news-fingal/taxis-tyrellstown-98764/

I'd take the point that Tyrrelstown is a very large estate and I'd note that most of my personal interactions with it involve the shops, the park and what teenagers occasionally wander over our way to smoke weed and wreck the playground. Other than that, second hand stories from pals who've lived there. So I couldn't tell you for sure that living on a particular street is going to involve good or bad neighbors and my opinion is based on the general rather than specific. But it does feel as an outsider you need that insider knowledge of where to go and where not to in Tyrrelstown.

Hurrache

Epping Forest wrote: »

There's a major gang problem in tyrrelstown that obviously people who own property there don't like publicised as their property values will drop. A quick Google search will reveal all. There's a reason it's 1 of the cheapest parts of Dublin 15 to buy in. You get what you pay for. Do a Google search for "tyrrelstown gangs" if you don't believe me.

sasta le wrote: »

Culture wars

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Avoid like the plague

It's like a bat signal goes up to attract the morons.

Caroline0680

VeVeX wrote: »

I've had almost zero teenager trouble in 14 years living in Mount Garrett. Other then the likes of footballs hitting cars etc. but that's abated since most of the kids are that bit older now. Some houses could be better kept but on the whole most are reasonably well maintained. Mount Garrett is probably the best part of the estate, its quiet, there's no rat runs etc. The majority of residents where I am are owner occupiers and are here since day one.

I heard that there is burglary issue as well ? It happens everywhere for sure but is is quite often in Mount Garrett ?

I went on Friday for a walk and saw quite a lot of
Police cars do you know what happen ?

eviltwin

Hurrache wrote: »

It's like a bat signal goes up to attract the morons.

Probably don't even know where Tyrrelstown is let alone been in it

HotDudeLife

Caroline0680 wrote: »

Could you please be more specific ? Thanks

I sent you a private message yesterday

HotDudeLife

Hurrache wrote: »

It's like a bat signal goes up to attract the morons.

So it's moronic to advise OP not to move to a notoriously bad area that is only going to get worse.

AlanG

The area is well run and it has pretty much the best value houses in Dublin. Quiet enough estate. Even 10 years ago when there was some trouble it was nothing major. Just a lot of social media hype mostly. Lots of good schools and good shops. Traffic around it is a lot less than the estates over towards ongar.
The main drawback is the time it takes to get to town via public transport. If you don't work in town its a very good estate and you will get very good value for money.
Certain people like to knock it as it has a higher proportion of foreign born residents than average but if you look at the government deprivation index the mean income in Tyrrelstown puts the residents in the above income average category for Ireland. Lots of people on good money are choosing to stay living in Tyrrelstown even though they could afford to move out.
I don't live there any more as I was getting public transport to baggot Street and it took too long but the area has a lot going for it and the houses are quite large.

As was mentioned above the teenagers from the estate a few years ago are now mostly in their 20s and like Cabra or Stoneybatter the are has settled down massively.

HotDudeLife

eviltwin wrote: »

Probably don't even know where Tyrrelstown is let alone been in it

I seriously don't get your agenda in defending the area, i am familiar with the area since it's been built and it's a shame the way it's turned out.


Vast majority of the area is social housing/rented and a huge percentage is to Africans (nothing wrong with that), the issue here is the children of those people lack any real identity to Ireland it seems and has resulted in a ruthless gang culture. You will actually hear London accents up that way even though the youths are not from or probably never even visited London, this is down to them trying to emulate gangsters/rappers based in London they follow online.


The amount of incidents that has occurred there in recent years is ridiculous, the garda have been woeful in handling it and it got so bad vigilantes were brought it at one stage to put a gang boss in his place.


Personally, i know of 2 people close to me who bought there and sold in recent years and lost a fortune but were just grateful to sell as the process took forever as barely any people were interested, the purchasers of said properties were not from Dublin and the other was not from Ireland, it is these people i feel sorry for, they see a somewhat aesthetic looking property in Dublin 15 and think they have got themselves a deal when in reality it will be a living hell.



The main stream media never report on these crimes as it's considered racist but a Google search still surprisingly produced pages of references to the gangs and criminality in the area, i've attached two links (From the Sun, i know but not much media reports this) and one video, do some more digging for yourself.







Articles from 2018:
https://www.thesun.ie/news/2048259/schoolboy-gangs-who-are-terrorising-west-dublin-locals-and-targeting-taxi-drivers-being-left-to-run-amok-by-gardai/


https://www.thesun.ie/news/2065988/vicious-teenage-gang-nicknamed-the-pesties-carrying-out-attacks-on-delivery-men-and-taxi-drivers-in-west-dublin/


https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZIuM67ftzPR8/




There is a reason why property in this area is significantly cheaper than similar property in other areas of Dublin 15, even areas that are just up the road are much higher priced e.g Hollystown.

HotDudeLife

AlanG wrote: »

The area is well run and it has pretty much the best value houses in Dublin. Quiet enough estate. Even 10 years ago when there was some trouble it was nothing major. Just a lot of social media hype mostly. Lots of good schools and good shops. Traffic around it is a lot less than the estates over towards ongar.
The main drawback is the time it takes to get to town via public transport. If you don't work in town its a very good estate and you will get very good value for money.
Certain people like to knock it as it has a higher proportion of foreign born residents than average but if you look at the government deprivation index the mean income in Tyrrelstown puts the residents in the above income average category for Ireland. Lots of people on good money are choosing to stay living in Tyrrelstown even though they could afford to move out.
I don't live there any more as I was getting public transport to baggot Street and it took too long but the area has a lot going for it and the houses are quite large.

As was mentioned above the teenagers from the estate a few years ago are now mostly in their 20s and like Cabra or Stoneybatter the are has settled down massively.

Why are you lying to OP? The gang violence has actually got many times times worse than it was in 2010. You don't live there anymore so how would you know?

ra0044

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Why are you lying to OP? The gang violence has actually got many times times worse than it was in 2010. You don't live there anymore so how would you know?

They are not lying. Far from it and if you knew anything about the place other than the utter nonsense being spouted on here you wouldn't be pedalling this crap.

As someone who does live in Tyrrelstown and has done for 17 years and certainly someone who has been active in the residents associations and action groups in the area I have sat in on Garda area meetings aswell as D15 area groups. Tyrrelstown has no more and intact less issues than many areas in either Dublin 15 or other compatible areas.

I really struggle with understanding the negativety about the place. Maybe people don't like how ethnicly diverse the place is, it certainly isn't a typical Irish housing estate, is it that a good percentage are rentals ( many rented to health professionals amongst others ) . Yes there are social housing rentals in the estate but they are in virtually every other estate aswell.

Maybe the vocal people are the ones that didn't have a positive experience of the estate as crap seems to spread quicker than anything via social media.

What I will say is that instead of spouting a load of heresay and unsubstantiated rumour how about you get in your car and drive through estate. Have a look at the park, schools, the different areas of the estate and see for yourself.

richardjjd

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Why are you lying to OP? The gang violence has actually got many times times worse than it was in 2010. You don't live there anymore so how would you know?

Nonsense!

If you've *any* proof of that, please present it.

I've lived in and around Tyrrelstown since 2002 and the entire community is a lot calmer than it was a decade ago (when the issues were related to a couple of fairly poorly behaved families, who quickly enough moved on).

Tyrrelstown is a decent community, with lots of young families, four primary schools, a secondary school, fairly active sports scene and reasonable public transport access.

OP, the best thing you can do is head out there, park the car and spend a while wandering around. Unfortunately, looking for advice online unfortunately brings out all types of keyboard warrior cranks!

ra0044

richardjjd wrote: »

Nonsense!

If you've *any* proof of that, please present it.

I've lived in and around Tyrrelstown since 2002 and the entire community is a lot calmer than it was a decade ago (when the issues were related to a couple of fairly poorly behaved families, who quickly enough moved on).

Tyrrelstown is a decent community, with lots of young families, four primary schools, a secondary school, fairly active sports scene and reasonable public transport access.

OP, the best thing you can do is head out there, park the car and spend a while wandering around. Unfortunately, looking for advice online unfortunately brings out all types of keyboard warrior cranks!

Couldn't agree more. OP head on over at different times of the day, different days of the week. Wander around. Take a stroll around the particular area of the estate you are looking to buy in.

See the place through your own eyes.

Hurrache

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Why are you lying to OP? The gang violence has actually got many times times worse than it was in 2010. You don't live there anymore so how would you know?

Hahahaha. A sure sign your a fan of certain Facebuke groups.

HotDudeLife

richardjjd wrote: »

Nonsense!

If you've *any* proof of that, please present it.

I've lived in and around Tyrrelstown since 2002 and the entire community is a lot calmer than it was a decade ago (when the issues were related to a couple of fairly poorly behaved families, who quickly enough moved on).

Tyrrelstown is a decent community, with lots of young families, four primary schools, a secondary school, fairly active sports scene and reasonable public transport access.

OP, the best thing you can do is head out there, park the car and spend a while wandering around. Unfortunately, looking for advice online unfortunately brings out all types of keyboard warrior cranks!

I linked 2 links and a video in my post, just Google "tyrrelstown gangs", "tyrrelstown crime", " tyrrelstown violence" etc.



I have literally nothing to gain, i am simply advising the OP not to make a huge mistake.

HotDudeLife

richardjjd wrote: »

Nonsense!

If you've *any* proof of that, please present it.

I've lived in and around Tyrrelstown since 2002 and the entire community is a lot calmer than it was a decade ago (when the issues were related to a couple of fairly poorly behaved families, who quickly enough moved on).

Tyrrelstown is a decent community, with lots of young families, four primary schools, a secondary school, fairly active sports scene and reasonable public transport access.

OP, the best thing you can do is head out there, park the car and spend a while wandering around. Unfortunately, looking for advice online unfortunately brings out all types of keyboard warrior cranks!

A colleague went to a viewing there last summer, parked the car and whilst walking up to the property with his family (wife, two daughters), a nearby gang of late teens started jumping up and down laughing like hyenas shouting "the blonde is mine" (referring to his 17year old daughter and other sexist slurs.



The place is a kip, why do i get the feeling that the only people defending it all own property there and therefore have a vested interest.


OP, i do not live there and have no ulterior motive, i am simply advising you what i know about the area and hope you don't make a terrible decision.

richardjjd

Like I said, proof would be welcome. We can all tell tales of something that happened to someone else to reinforce a point.

OP ... head out there yourself. If you want someone to wander around with you, drop me a PM!

LorelaiG

I don't own property in Tyrellstown and I don't live there either. I work up there though and there is literally zero trouble on weekend nights. You do have large groups of teens wandering the streets but they don't cause any trouble and I've never in the nearly three years I've worked there had any trouble from them.

Nijmegen

LorelaiG wrote: »

I don't own property in Tyrellstown and I don't live there either. I work up there though and there is literally zero trouble on weekend nights. You do have large groups of teens wandering the streets but they don't cause any trouble and I've never in the nearly three years I've worked there had any trouble from them.

My experience is quite a bit different. Regular trouble from them. A few weekends back I was getting some food in the chipper, queuing outside, and a few lads climbed up the outside of the building at the Chinese and in an open window of an apartment and set off the fire alarm for the entire block. Then threatened two women who came out with young kids who were giving out yards about it. Just as an example of probably abnormally disruptive behaviour. I’m not sure it’s accurate to say they are no trouble, just as it wouldn’t be accurate to say they’re chasing one another around in a bloody gang war either.

Epping Forest

The aggressiveness of those defending the area on here (presumably residents or property owners in tyrrelstown) - calling anyone with an opposing view (that happens to be well documented over the last 10 years thanks to news websites, Google and social media) morons, etc speaks volumes about the type of people who live there. Well done, you've inadvertently proven my point.

HotDudeLife

Epping Forest wrote: »

The aggressiveness of those defending the area on here (presumably residents or property owners in tyrrelstown) - calling anyone with an opposing view (that happens to be well documented over the last 10 years thanks to news websites, Google and social media) morons, etc speaks volumes about the type of people who live there. Well done, you've inadvertently proven my point.

Very true, i find it quite bizarre even people who work there are so quick to defend the area with blatant lies.



If they had their way all articles that paint the area in it's realistic form would be removed from the internet, truly bizarre behavior to downplay all the criminality in the area, lie to OP and potentially convince OP to make a huge decision they would regret and perhaps ruin their financial and emotional life. My money is on these posters owning property in the area.

eviltwin

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Very true, i find it quite bizarre even people who work there are so quick to defend the area with blatant lies.



If they had their way all articles that paint the area in it's realistic form would be removed from the internet, truly bizarre behavior to downplay all the criminality in the area, lie to OP and potentially convince OP to make a huge decision they would regret and perhaps ruin their financial and emotional life. My money is on these posters owning property in the area.

What's your connection to the area?

Hurrache

HotDudeLife wrote: »

Very true, i find it quite bizarre even people who work there are so quick to defend the area with blatant lies.



If they had their way all articles that paint the area in it's realistic form would be removed from the internet, truly bizarre behavior to downplay all the criminality in the area, lie to OP and potentially convince OP to make a huge decision they would regret and perhaps ruin their financial and emotional life. My money is on these posters owning property in the area.

Seriously, you're full of ****e. No ifs or buts.

Bigmac1euro

Just moved out of Tyrrelstown after renting there for 4 years. Only issue I had was with neighbours kids being annoying and them ignoring lockdown advice. But was all quiet at night time.

I never had any trouble and never felt intimidated using the shops or off license. I’ve walked through the estate at all hours of the night. They have a good community with some friendly people on their Facebook as well as annoying people that think they own the estate.

It’s such a normal estate and the shops are so handy being so close to them.

A mixed culture but I would say 40% Irish 30% African and 30% mixed European.

I do actually miss the area in some ways. The apartment I lived wasn’t the nicest but the area was fine.
All in all. This area gets a really bad name I feel and it really isn’t a bad estate at all.

HotDudeLife

Hurrache wrote: »

Seriously, you're full of ****e. No ifs or buts.

I've stated facts and provided evidence, all you have provided is insults.


That is all you need to know OP

Bigmac1euro

HotDudeLife wrote: »

I've stated facts and provided evidence, all you have provided is insults.


That is all you need to know OP

In fairness your evidence is websites like the liberal with a picture of a load of African guys which I never witnessed in my life living there for 4 years and also your link to Dublin gazette.

There was a woman murdered in fox rock in her home not too long ago.
When did someone get murdered in their home in Tyrrelstown?

Those articles are click bait imo.
Show me murders and robbed cars flying through the estate or videos of gangs wrecking the place.
You won’t find any all you’ll find is a picture of a gang of lads at a sign being circulated for 4 years trying to generate fear.

blanch152

ra0044 wrote: »

They are not lying. Far from it and if you knew anything about the place other than the utter nonsense being spouted on here you wouldn't be pedalling this crap.

As someone who does live in Tyrrelstown and has done for 17 years and certainly someone who has been active in the residents associations and action groups in the area I have sat in on Garda area meetings aswell as D15 area groups. Tyrrelstown has no more and intact less issues than many areas in either Dublin 15 or other compatible areas.

I really struggle with understanding the negativety about the place. Maybe people don't like how ethnicly diverse the place is, it certainly isn't a typical Irish housing estate, is it that a good percentage are rentals ( many rented to health professionals amongst others ) . Yes there are social housing rentals in the estate but they are in virtually every other estate aswell.

Maybe the vocal people are the ones that didn't have a positive experience of the estate as crap seems to spread quicker than anything via social media.

What I will say is that instead of spouting a load of heresay and unsubstantiated rumour how about you get in your car and drive through estate. Have a look at the park, schools, the different areas of the estate and see for yourself.

To be honest, I have lived in Dublin 15 for 25 years and never had any reason to sit in on a Garda area meeting. The fact that you have says something, what exactly I am not sure, but at least it means that it is harder work to keep the area as safe as elsewhere.

Larbre34

My mate is a city centre based Garda who lives in Tyrrellstown.

He describes to me an area of low level hassle and anti social behaviour, some houses over occupied, some irresponsible social tenants with casual vandalism and dumping. He can handle it and has handed out a few slaps but will sell up at the earliest opportunity he has financially to do so.

kravmaga

Caroline0680 wrote: »

Hi all,

I am looking to buy in Mount Garrett and wanted to have feedback from people living in the area

I know already about the usual issues teenagers, littering etc but other than that is it a safe place to live in ?

Thanks in advance

High rental , low owner occupier there. I would look at Waterville or far side of Blanch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-80gWsLbfxA

onform

Epping Forest wrote: »

The place is a ghetto, avoid like the plague

Quote: HotDudeLife
Avoid like the plague

Hmmm, you guys do have a very similar turn of phrase to match your almost identical opinions. I wonder do you have matching IP addresses?

Anyway, Tyrrelstown is far from a ghetto and to describe it as such is extremely disrespectful to the people who reside there. In the comparison to other locations to buy a house in Dublin 15, it has its own advantages (Good schools, bus service) and disadvantages (On airport flight path, high density) . I'd advise the OP to listen to the opinions of people living there who have posted and obviously do their own careful research. But don't be swayed too much by those who think posting a few links from Google is relevant when what you asked for was actual opinions from residents (And using that rag 'The S*n' as a reliable source of information? Come off it...).

sasta le

Anyone defending the area
Is there a problem with African youth gangs in the area yes or no?

salamiii

Teen terror gangs


Locals also said they were unhappy with Fingal County Council for housing a "disproportionate number" of anti-social elements in the one area.


https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/tyrrelstown-residents-fight-back-against-12958624

onform

salamiii wrote: »

Teen terror gangs


Locals also said they were unhappy with Fingal County Council for housing a "disproportionate number" of anti-social elements in the one area.


https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/tyrrelstown-residents-fight-back-against-12958624

That article is from 2017,and there certainly was a problem with a small number of individuals at that time who have since moved out of the area. I would agree with that Fingal housing were largely responsible for creating the problem by housing too many of their 'problem' tenants in the area, similar issue to what's happened to Balbriggan but on a much smaller scale. Hopefully they've learned something from that experience.

richardjjd

sasta le wrote: »

Anyone defending the area
Is there a problem with African youth gangs in the area yes or no?

No.

There was a problem, but it was (finally) addressed by Fingal a number of years ago and there isn't a problem any more (or at least no more of a problem than you'd experience in any large housing estate).

richardjjd

kravmaga wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-80gWsLbfxA

And as Kravmaga points out, there's an active cultural and musical scene as well.

AlanG

blanch152 wrote: »

To be honest, I have lived in Dublin 15 for 25 years and never had any reason to sit in on a Garda area meeting. The fact that you have says something, what exactly I am not sure, but at least it means that it is harder work to keep the area as safe as elsewhere.

This is one of the most bizarre and ill informed statements a person could make. I have lived in lots of areas and generally the better the area the more active people are in Garda and Neighborhood watch groups. If you have never engaged in this sort of meeting or group you really should give it a try. Far better than judging an area from Facebook.

AlanG

kravmaga wrote: »

High rental , low owner occupier there. I would look at Waterville or far side of Blanch.

waterville is really nice too but costs c1.5 to 2 times as much per square foot. The shopping and school options in Waterville would not be as good or varied as tyrrelstown but it has better public transport.

miamee

Let's not forget OP is looking for information on living in Tyrrelstown, so can we get back on topic please?

HotDudeLife

richardjjd wrote: »

No.

There was a problem, but it was (finally) addressed by Fingal a number of years ago and there isn't a problem any more (or at least no more of a problem than you'd experience in any large housing estate).

BS it's worse now than it ever was, why are you lying to the OP and encouraging them to make a huge mistake.



Do you own property in the area, yes or no.

richardjjd

HotDudeLife wrote: »

BS it's worse now than it ever was, why are you lying to the OP and encouraging them to make a huge mistake.



Do you own property in the area, yes or no.

Hi HotDudeLife. Yes I do. Have a look at post #22.

Where do you live?

HotDudeLife

onform wrote: »

That article is from 2017,and there certainly was a problem with a small number of individuals at that time who have since moved out of the area. I would agree with that Fingal housing were largely responsible for creating the problem by housing too many of their 'problem' tenants in the area, similar issue to what's happened to Balbriggan but on a much smaller scale. Hopefully they've learned something from that experience.

Jesus wept, so dozens upon dozens of gang members had a divine intervention and just decided to move out? You are blatantly lying to the OP and you know it.


OP, these gangs have been running rampant since around 2009-present, it reached a boiling point in mid 2010s when vigilantes had to step up as Garda were doing nothing, after this gang activity subsided but slowly but surely returned to it's baseline (if not worse). You will see evidence of this in articles from 2018 (albeit not much online as the media don't like reporting these issues).




I am giving you this advice OP as someone who was born in Huntstown Dublin 15 just when the whole of Blanch was getting started, i know all the areas like the back of my hand. I have since moved to South Dublin but all my family are still there.


What annoys me the most is people getting shafted and purchasing property in Tyyrelstown, it had so much potential but due to social housing and reckless governance it is ruined and will be one of Irelands worst ghettos in 10 years mark my words. On the outside it may seem pretty as some of the houses are built ok and once a few pictures are thrown on Daft/Myhome from a nice day it can look appealing to those unaware but please believe me there is a reason they are cheaper (should be much cheaper) than other similar properties in Dublin 15. It is rotten to the core and i would never dream of bringing a child up in that area, serious crime/racial issues ahead of it.