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Do you trust cops?

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    #32
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Oops! wrote: »
    Like every walk of life there's good and bad people at their jobs....

    But as has been mentioned already the uniform never comes off and a bad one is some f**kin dose, the worse type of person with a bit of power...

    It's a fairly closed shop when it comes to transparency, as has been shown on a good few occasions, but any of them putting themselves forward for the job are welcome to it, wouldn't be for me... They deal with the scum of the place and sh*t suitations and enviroments in an out of the station.


    You know that gets me thinking about a vid on Youtube I saw recently. Was one of these staged events on random people type things. It was in some coffee shop or cafe, with a customer harassing the cashier because he was Muslim. He was serving a soldier at the time and his response to the harassing customer was "I wear the uniform so that people can come here and live free", or something like that. That's a proper mentality to have. Wish there were more people worldwide with similar attitudes.


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    #33
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod:

    Enough of the petty back and forth folks. Keep it civil and stay on topic. Thanks.


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    #34
    Tom Mann Centuria
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    Yes I trust the police in this country, and also the UK. Further afield I've had no interactions with them, so I don't vouch for them.

    I also loved Live PD and was gutted when it got taken off the air :pac:

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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    #35
    Beltby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭Beltby


    I've seen a lot of sh1tty behaviour over the years from them. From crashing into my dad as they were overtaking him as he was turning right, and then prosecuting him, to trying to stitch up a family member over a killing.

    And when they were called for various things over the years, useless. They never wanted to know.

    Nowadays if someone commits a crime against me, I deal with it myself.


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    #36
    _Kaiser_
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    As individuals, Gardai are like any others - from genuine, decent and hard-working to lazy and ignorant. As an organisation though, AGS is not fit for purpose and should be rebuilt from the ground up. Unaccountable, nepotistic, not at all public-focused, and they have lost a lot of credibility and support over the years because of this and the various scandals - particularly the McCabe saga, penalty points wiping and the inflated breath tests debacle.


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    #37
    jrosen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    Ive no personal reason not to trust police in general but I also know members of the force who would tell me im naive.


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    #38
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,740 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Most of the Gardai are very professional and do a top job. The ones who don't shouldn't be allowed to taint the good ones.


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    #39
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,433 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    jaxxx wrote: »
    I don't. Not one bit. Maybe I've been watching too many negative cop experience videos on Youtubez. I dunno. Like I've had all of.. 6 interactions with cops in my life? 2 were for Garda vetting. The rest were just routine traffic checkpoints. Never been pulled over or anything like that. At least half of those experiences they were very unpleasant, not at all civil and just general dicks. If I were ever pulled over, as soon as the engine was switched off, I'd whip out the phone recording every second, just for my own safety, not for posting to Youpornz.


    Yes I'm using cops. Cops, police, garda (which sounds bucking dumb AF to me), it's all semantics anyway. Kinda. I guess. Suppose. Sausage rolls.


    Your experiences? Yay? Nay? Jay? May? Hay? Gay? Parlay? Pay? Running-out-of-words-here-that-end-in-ay!

    So you're one of those annoying people who gets the phone out to record Gardai.

    Wouldn't blame them if they weren't civil to you after that.


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    #40
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    So you're one of those annoying people who gets the phone out to record Gardai.

    Wouldn't blame them if they weren't civil to you after that.


    Because I don't trust them to do the right thing by me or even follow the very law they're supposed to enforce, nor anyone else of positions of authority for that matter. And I'm not one of those people cos it has never happened to me, had you actually read what I said properly. I would be one of those people if it ever did, but only as a means of defence for myself, not to go posting it on Youtube, AGAIN as I said in the OP.


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    #41
    JasonStatham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭JasonStatham


    jaxxx wrote: »
    I don't. Not one bit. Maybe I've been watching too many negative cop experience videos on Youtubez. I dunno. Like I've had all of.. 6 interactions with cops in my life? 2 were for Garda vetting. The rest were just routine traffic checkpoints. Never been pulled over or anything like that. At least half of those experiences they were very unpleasant, not at all civil and just general dicks. If I were ever pulled over, as soon as the engine was switched off, I'd whip out the phone recording every second, just for my own safety, not for posting to Youpornz.


    Yes I'm using cops. Cops, police, garda (which sounds bucking dumb AF to me), it's all semantics anyway. Kinda. I guess. Suppose. Sausage rolls.


    Your experiences? Yay? Nay? Jay? May? Hay? Gay? Parlay? Pay? Running-out-of-words-here-that-end-in-ay!

    Ready for school tomorrow?


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    #42
    Beltby
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    So you're one of those annoying people who gets the phone out to record Gardai.

    Wouldn't blame them if they weren't civil to you after that.

    Why wouldn't they be civil? They applied for the job knowing well that they'd be dealing with the public. If they are carrying out their jobs correctly, they shouldn't be worried about someone filming.

    Would you apply your own logic if a Garda was wearing a body cam? Would you not be civil to them?


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    #43
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Beltby wrote: »
    Why wouldn't they be civil? They applied for the job knowing well that they'd be dealing with the public. If they are carrying out their jobs correctly, they shouldn't be worried about someone filming.

    Would you apply your own logic if a Garda was wearing a body cam? Would you not be civil to them?
    Speaking of, how are body cams dispersed today? Do all officers have them while out on patrol?


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    #44
    Jimmy Twotimes
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    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    So embarrassing when an Irish person refers to the Gardaí as "cops".

    Even worse when they say 'shades'. That is so, so cringey.

    Never had a problem with the guards but then I'm not a criminal, I'm not an entitled weed smoker with persecution complex. Feels good to be a responsible adult.

    But yeah I get it, some black guy got wasted in a gettho in America and now I'm supposed to hate the guards.


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    #45
    Beltby
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    jaxxx wrote: »
    Speaking of, how are body cams dispersed today? Do all officers have them while out on patrol?

    I've no idea. They should all have them imo.


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    #46
    imme
    Registered Users Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    You sound lovely OP, a lovely person to deal with.

    Gardai are not out there to annoy you.

    Recording a routine traffic stop by Gardai, who would be a Garda with this type of crap.


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    #47
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    imme wrote: »
    You sound lovely OP, a lovely person to deal with.

    Gardai are not out there to annoy you.

    Recording a routine traffic stop by Gardai, who would be a Garda with this type of crap.


    Have people lost the ability to actually read? I didn't say I'd record routine traffic stops, I said I'd record if I were ever to be pulled over, simply so as though I'd have something to defend myself if something were to go pear shaped.


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    #48
    Jimmy Twotimes
    Registered Users Posts: 43 ✭Jimmy Twotimes


    jaxxx wrote: »
    Have people lost the ability to actually read? I didn't say I'd record routine traffic stops, I said I'd record if I were ever to be pulled over, simply so as though I'd have something to defend myself if something were to go pear shaped.

    Seriously, how paranoid are you?


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    #49
    Church on Tuesday
    Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Yes I do, I'm not a 15 year old edgelord.

    The Gardaí are there for our own protection, there are always going to be a few bad apples but there are bad apples everywhere in every walk in life.


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    #50
    IAMAMORON
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    They will be monitoring your internet activity from now on Op.

    Good luck with that..... lololololol.:p:p


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    #51
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Jimmy Twotimes wrote: »
    Seriously, how paranoid are you?


    I don't trust people to act in the best interests of others. How is that paranoia?


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    #52
    jaxxx
    Registered Users Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    They will be monitoring your internet activity from now on Op.

    Good luck with that..... lololololol.:p:p
    Eh, I'd be more concerned for them than myself :D


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    #53
    [Deleted User]
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    Jimmy Twotimes wrote: »
    But yeah I get it, some black guy got wasted in a gettho in America and now I'm supposed to hate the guards.

    You don't get it, only laying out your prejudices for a reaction.


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    #54
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    jaxxx wrote: »
    Eh, I'd be more concerned for them than myself :D

    You kiss is on their list.


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    #55
    Necro
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    Mod:

    Thread closed. It has just descended into a bickerfest and gone miles off topic.


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