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Renault Arkana coming here next year. About time.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 49,864 ✭✭✭✭ bazz26


    Looks like they just morphed the current Megane saloon into a crossover to make it trendy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭ sumo12


    Depreciation at 4 times the power of gravity the same as every other Renault I'm guessing...


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,625 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    sumo12 wrote: »
    Depreciation at 4 times the power of gravity the same as every other Renault I'm guessing...

    Show me all the cheap Kadjars.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭ Hurrache


    sumo12 wrote: »
    Depreciation at 4 times the power of gravity the same as every other Renault I'm guessing...

    Nope, wrong guess.

    I still think it was a shame to not see the Talisman come on sale here, they're onto the second version in Europe, it's a lovely car in the flesh but I guess not not much of a right hand drive market for it.

    renault-talisman-estate_3514_8.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭ sumo12


    Wow sorry lads, didn't realise Renault's were so coveted!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,249 ✭✭✭✭ Guy:Incognito


    sumo12 wrote: »
    Wow sorry lads, didn't realise Renault's were so coveted!

    All you were asked to do was back up a claim you made. Shouldnt be hard if its true............


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 387 ✭✭ Ta ceist agam


    sumo12 wrote: »
    Wow sorry lads, didn't realise Renault's were so coveted!

    Get back on your bar stool!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,091 ✭✭✭ James Bond Junior


    It's no Avantime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,262 ✭✭✭✭ road_high


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Show me all the cheap Kadjars.

    And clios?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,262 ✭✭✭✭ road_high


    sumo12 wrote: »
    Wow sorry lads, didn't realise Renault's were so coveted!

    Well they’re consistently 6/7 in the sales charts here so yea, obviously a lot of people do covet a Renault!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,827 ✭✭✭ RobAMerc


    got to say I dont see the appeal of that Arkana

    The coupe SUV is a real " more money than good sense" mobile to me, and those sorts are massive badge snobs


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,625 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    got to say I dont see the appeal of that Arkana

    The coupe SUV is a real " more money than good sense" mobile to me, and those sorts are massive badge snobs

    Was listening to Richard Porter and he made the point that SUV coupes are the new coupes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,827 ✭✭✭ RobAMerc


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Was listening to Richard Porter and he made the point that SUV coupes are the new coupes.

    Dunno who Richard Porter is, but he is wrong !

    this is a coupe.

    merc_e220d_coupe_01.jpg

    this, most certainly is not !
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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,402 ✭✭✭✭ AMKC


    sumo12 wrote: »
    Wow sorry lads, didn't realise Renault's were so coveted!

    There is plenty of Renaults in this country and plenty of people happy with them. There is even the Renaults that most people might not realise are Renaults they just want a cheap reliable A to B car to get around and thats Dacia.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭ ratracer


    Wouldn’t like the Arcana ( or any of that shaped car from any manufacturer), but that Talisman is a lovely looking car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭ ba_barabus


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Was listening to Richard Porter and he made the point that SUV coupes are the new coupes.

    He's right, I can see this bring the new Megane Coupe from the late 90s


  • Registered Users Posts: 72,625 ✭✭✭✭ colm_mcm


    Yep. I’m probably like a broken record but 25 years ago you had what I call working mans coupes, as in non premium coupes.

    Opel Calibra and Tigra, Toyota Paseo and Celica, Fiat Coupe, Ford Probe, Puma, Cougar, Honda Prelude and Integra, Nissan 100NX, 200ZX, Hyundai S Coupe, Renault Megane Coupe and many others.

    You also had 3 door versions of family cars like the Corolla, Escort, Colt, Astra etc. Then you had convertibles.

    The coupes were the first to go, then the convertibles and now the non premium 3 door hatch is almost extinct. This isn’t purely as a result of manufacturers being silly - it’s because people won’t buy them.

    What they are buying is crossovers, and just like the Megane Coupe was essentially a Megane only different which appealed to someone looking for something a little different -so will the slightly less practical slopey roofed crossovers.

    Big wheels and big ground clearance are slowly becoming the norm, where eventually what we would call a regular car will be notable by its diminutive height. This will happen.

    I’m not happy about it, but that’s the direction things are going.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭ coolbeans


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Yep. I’m probably like a broken record but 25 years ago you had what I call working mans coupes, as in non premium coupes.

    Opel Calibra and Tigra, Toyota Paseo and Celica, Fiat Coupe, Ford Probe, Puma, Cougar, Honda Prelude and Integra, Nissan 100NX, 200ZX, Hyundai S Coupe, Renault Megane Coupe and many others.

    You also had 3 door versions of family cars like the Corolla, Escort, Colt, Astra etc. Then you had convertibles.

    The coupes were the first to go, then the convertibles and now the non premium 3 door hatch is almost extinct. This isn’t purely as a result of manufacturers being silly - it’s because people won’t buy them.

    What they are buying is crossovers, and just like the Megane Coupe was essentially a Megane only different which appealed to someone looking for something a little different -so will the slightly less practical slopey roofed crossovers.

    Big wheels and big ground clearance are slowly becoming the norm, where eventually what we would call a regular car will be notable by its diminutive height. This will happen.

    I’m not happy about it, but that’s the direction things are going.

    It's a stupid trend. Cars with big wheels and increased height are inherently less efficient. What they're achieving is undoing much of the gains made with respect to CO2 and fuel consumption. Seems mad but people seem to like their ugly cars these days. Tis a shame. To think I used to like BMWs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 656 ✭✭✭ hurleronditch


    That talisman looks fantastic. Something to aspire to for a faithful Megane Estate driver like myself!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭ coolbeans


    That talisman looks fantastic. Something to aspire to for a faithful Megane Estate driver like myself!!

    Is the new Mégane a good machine? The previous one had a great reputation. Thinking about one of those or a Leon FR estate as the next motor. The French are making some great cars last decade or so


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,262 ✭✭✭✭ road_high


    That talisman looks fantastic. Something to aspire to for a faithful Megane Estate driver like myself!!

    Great looking car. The GT line in a kind of orangey red looks fantastic o see the odd one about


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,402 ✭✭✭✭ AMKC


    coolbeans wrote: »
    Is the new Mégane a good machine? The previous one had a great reputation. Thinking about one of those or a Leon FR estate as the next motor. The French are making some great cars last decade or so

    Yes it is, it's well made and very reliable too. Unlike a certain overrated German mass producing brand that some people aspire to own. Never seen the appeal myself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭ Montage of Feck


    I want a clio with a formula 1 engine in the boot not an ugly megane with jacked up suspension, lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,827 ✭✭✭ RobAMerc


    AMKC wrote: »
    Yes it is, it's well made and very reliable too. Unlike a certain overrated German mass producing brand that some people aspire to own. Never seen the appeal myself.

    Ok, lets not get carried away here, a Renault isnt exactly hand made and lets be fair there were an awful lot of issues with them going back a bit.

    Reliability might be on the up but they are still considered a mid level product and the quality of them still isnt in the German premium brand levels, nor are the driving dynamics ( and by the way I have owned Renaults and am a big fan.)

    If you are talking about an Opel, then they aren't even German !


  • Registered Users Posts: 656 ✭✭✭ hurleronditch


    coolbeans wrote: »
    Is the new Mégane a good machine? The previous one had a great reputation. Thinking about one of those or a Leon FR estate as the next motor. The French are making some great cars last decade or so

    I certainly like them. The engine is nothing exciting but since they made them all 110 bhp there is plenty in them to get around. Overall the spec is decent, GT line is preferable but even in limited or dynamique spec you get plenty of kit other mass market brands you pay big money for. A 2 year old GT line with someone else taking the big depreciation hit and 3 years of warranty left is a very shrewd buy if you ask me


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ bobbyy gee




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,510 ✭✭✭✭ galwaytt


    sumo12 wrote: »
    Depreciation at 4 times the power of gravity the same as every other Renault I'm guessing...

    Good if you're buying.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,510 ✭✭✭✭ galwaytt


    I certainly like them. The engine is nothing exciting but since they made them all 110 bhp there is plenty in them to get around. Overall the spec is decent, GT line is preferable but even in limited or dynamique spec you get plenty of kit other mass market brands you pay big money for. A 2 year old GT line with someone else taking the big depreciation hit and 3 years of warranty left is a very shrewd buy if you ask me


    This ^^^

    We bought a 3.5yr, old 2012 reg GT Line Tourer with EDC box, Kept it 4.5 years. Paid 15k for it as a 1 owner car with 39k kms on it , from a main dealer. Sold it after 4.5 years for 5k and they nearly took my hand off to buy it.

    FSH, 160k kms on it, zero trouble bar 1 door handle which Renault warrantied at 5 yrs old. I loved it.

    And, at time of purchase it was a fraction of the price of a VAG car.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,510 ✭✭✭✭ galwaytt


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    Ok, lets not get carried away here, a Renault isnt exactly hand made and lets be fair there were an awful lot of issues with them going back a bit.

    Reliability might be on the up but they are still considered a mid level product and the quality of them still isnt in the German premium brand levels, nor are the driving dynamics ( and by the way I have owned Renaults and am a big fan.)

    If you are talking about an Opel, then they aren't even German !

    Enlighten me on these 'issues'. I've bought 2 new and 3 used Renault over 20 years. Without question all have been more reliable than any German car I've had in the interim. That includes Audi, Porsche and Mercedes. And 2 x Saabs too.

    I still have and love the German stuff, but our Renault go toe-toe easily. The last Mégane GT in particular was great.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭ ba_barabus


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    the quality of them still isnt in the German premium brand levels, nor are the driving dynamics

    Don't Renault use a Mercedes Benz diesel engine now :P


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