Uptick in Covid19 D15

KGLady

Currently HSE confirmed cases in West Dublin are standing at 74 per 100k of population which is very high, and there's now two schools with confirmed cases in Dublin 15. We need to stay extra careful with masks and handwashing, and keep vulnerable family and neighbours in mind.

There's also a bit of a cold doing the rounds in some primary schools too, which is mostly sniffles and sneezes, and not a big concern. It'll be good for parents in the area to be aware of both and when to stay home/call GP.

Stay safe

murphyebass

So glad you were here to tell me about this.

So what do we do again, wash hands you say.

And a mask. Like Halloween? I suppose it is nearly October. Fair enough I’ll play along. Thanks op.

TheSheriff

murphyebass wrote: »

So glad you were here to tell me about this.

So what do we do again, wash hands you say.

And a mask. Like Halloween? I suppose it is nearly October. Fair enough I’ll play along. Thanks op.

Idiotic post.

TheValeyard

OP makes a very good point. Seems that parts of D15, Castleknock, Carpenterstown, Blanchardstown have very high cases at the minute.

choclate

What schools have had cases?

It would be very helpful if they continued to publish data at the electoral area level.

ongarite

Dublin NW on the COVID map is a huge population area.
Covers all of Blanchardstown, Finglas, Cabra and parts of Glasnevin and Smithfield.
Must be near 200K people.

Polar101

ongarite wrote: »

Dublin NW on the COVID map is a huge population area.
Covers all of Blanchardstown, Finglas, Cabra and parts of Glasnevin and Smithfield.
Must be near 200K people.

It is indeed, 208K.

No way of telling what percentage of the cases are in the D15 part of the "North West", I guess.

KGLady

LCC has had a single case, and Sacred Heart Huntstown.

Larbre34

I'd say if everyone just follows the hand and face protocols and does what they're advised to do about majorly restricting visits to other people's homes, they'll be alright.

I have a relative involved in supply planning for various winter contingencies and the information he has seen is that the far higher concentrations of the outbreaks in Dublin are among the more deprived areas of the City and County. That may or may not surprise people, but its a fairly sensitive topic when it comes to management of the disease and the enforcement of restrictions.

raheny red

KGLady wrote: »

LCC has had a single case, and Sacred Heart Huntstown.

St ciarans hartstown, Ladyswell NS, and Mary Mother of Hope Littlepace too.

Hurrache

It's no place to be saying such and such a place has had x number of cases of the virus. I assume people are getting these 'facts' from a certain Facebuke page, but I think we can do without spreading it without definitive publicly made evidence.

LorelaiG

Hurrache wrote: »

It's no place to be saying such and such a place has had x number of cases of the virus. I assume people are getting these 'facts' from a certain Facebuke page, but I think we can do without spreading it without definitive publicly made evidence.

Can confirm that Ladyswell NS has at least two confirmed cases as my daughter was in the same class as one of them and another class was also closed.

RoryMac

Just been informed that Coolmine Community college has a case

KGLady

Hurrache wrote: »

It's no place to be saying such and such a place has had x number of cases of the virus. I assume people are getting these 'facts' from a certain Facebuke page, but I think we can do without spreading it without definitive publicly made evidence.

Your assumptions are incorrect - in the case of my own kids school I have a letter from the HSE. Policy in most schools so far seems to be only student parents are directly notified so there's no publicly released evidence. I'm not a Facebook user so I've no idea what panic pages are spreading there, nor do I care! But I do care about community transmission in the area as it impacts our daily lives and it puts our family and friends at risk. IMO reliable information is so important to help make the right choices to get the balance between risks and a reasonable daily life.

Hurrache

KGLady wrote: »

so there's no publicly released evidence.

And that's the point.

KGLady

Hurrache wrote: »

And that's the point.

So your point is...? Are we not allowed to talk about it because there isn't a spreadsheet in the Irish Times?

rockatansky

Hurrache wrote: »

And that's the point.

Should we stay off the Neighbourhood watch thread also considering most of that is incident that people have heard about through word of mouth?

I Am The Law

Uptick.

Pat Dunne

RoryMac wrote: »

Just been informed that Coolmine Community college has a case

Do you mean Coolmine Community School?

Why do people need to know what schools have cases or suspected cases ? The people that need to know....know. The rest just seems like nosiness to me or people have an agenda against schools being open.

beauf

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why do people need to know what schools have cases or suspected cases ? The people that need to know....know. The rest just seems like nosiness to me or people have an agenda against schools being open.

I think it useful for people to know it's not gone away, that they still need to follow protocols.

KGLady

Schools remaining open should stay our main priority imo. I worry there's a level of burnout/complacency in a lot of people, I reckon that the stark reality of local kids testing positive across the wider area is a very strong indicator of community transmission and its worth discussing. In addition given the reality of large classrooms in the area (heavily subscribed schools) chances of further spread are high if we are not super careful. The reality is local pubs are serving without adhering to the restrictions, take a walk around Blanch SC and you'll see a lack of distancing and masks under chins and noses, and outside some local schools at peak times the footpaths are rammed and distancing isn't possible.

All of this is a huge concern for me when I think of my local elderly parents who won't survive the sickness. I've had it back in early March and am still medicated for the ongoing health problems its left me with (no previous underlying conditions) I've no idea where I got it, and I while believed I was being careful I still got sick. These numbers of new cases in Dublin aren't abstract, its localised enough that the kids in the area are popping up positive in multiple different schools across very different social demographics. There isn't going to be newspaper or RTE coverage, and todays farce on Level 2 but not really and not Level 3 doesn't inspire confidence.

Personally speaking I don't use Facebook or mass Whatsapp groups and have no interest in gossip or being nosey, but I like D15 boards because it can be a place of genuine discussion with a wider local group. Not everyone on the interwebs is here for cynicism or gossip

beauf

beauf wrote: »

I think it useful for people to know it's not gone away, that they still need to follow protocols.

My god its part of every conversation, every news broadcast, every radio show, every newspaper. You're telling me people need to know the exact schools that have had a case or suspected case helps them know it hasn't gone away ?!:eek:

Every street, every business, every shop, school.....hell everywhere there is coronavirus signage and hand sanitiser.

I'm sorry but it still sounds like nosiness to me. I don't see topics, facebook pages and twitter accounts set up to track ever case in households and businesses.

beauf

I dunno I don't watch or listen to most of that stuff.

But it seems that people in D15, and its seems to be the younger age group, think a) it doesn't effect them, and b) its mostly somewhere else.
Because they are around in large groups and no masks. No masks is a lot more common than it was.

I'm not saying that it not some people being taking an excessive interest in it. That doesn't mean it has no value.

raheny red

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1307212358830432258?s=19

ongarite

Easier to understand graphic.
Corduff to Tyrellstown to Swords has highest rate of cases in Dublin NW

Larbre34

KGLady wrote: »

So your point is...? Are we not allowed to talk about it because there isn't a spreadsheet in the Irish Times?

Lol. Voilà

Larbre34

Larbre34 wrote: »

I have a relative involved in supply planning for various winter contingencies and the information he has seen is that the far higher concentrations of the outbreaks in Dublin are among the more deprived areas of the City and County. That may or may not surprise people, but its a fairly sensitive topic when it comes to management of the disease and the enforcement of restrictions.

Also voilà.

The disease is precisely concentrated in areas of deprivation. Poor living conditions or poor levels of personal responsibility? Probably a bit of both.

ongarboy

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-is-spreading-most-in-deprived-areas-the-figures-suggest-1.4358795

"The first set of data shows how the virus is, by and large, spreading most in areas of deprivation. These are also areas with high proportions of immigrants and “new Irish”, indicating perhaps that the public health messaging is not reaching these sections of the population"

Interesting point in Irish Times above on how COVID is spreading in areas with many non nationals. I do think that if you are a recent immigrant(last 5 or 10 years) to this country and English is not your first language, you will not tend to watch, listen or read Irish news, check Irish news apps online, your home country peers, friends etc also living here may be similar so it's not being discussed at meet ups, on phone calls, whatsapp groups etc so there might be an oblivious nature to the seriousness of what's going on with COVID and what precautions to take.

Also, the fact many recent immigrants tend to live together in large numbers in single households, sharing bedrooms etc for cheaper rents/economic necessity, continuing to mingle and visiting other similar households where their fellow nationals live could be a contributing factor also to higher case rates. Dublin 15 has many areas that fall under this category of large non national populations.

ongarite

I would also say that these areas have the youngest population in Dublin 15 with a large amount of schools co-located next to each other.

Pkiernan

Larbre34 wrote: »

Also voilà.

The disease is precisely concentrated in areas of deprivation. Poor living conditions or poor levels of personal responsibility? Probably a bit of both.

Overwhelmingly a personal responsibility issue.

miamee

I thought maybe the large hospitals in Blanchardstown and Tallaght might have contributed with a higher proportion of health care workers but I haven't heard of any breakouts in either one.

beauf

It's simply people, teens and kids, not social distancing and not wearing masks etc. You see it all over the area and in the shops. People deliberately not giving a flying fig.

beauf

miamee wrote: »

I thought maybe the large hospitals in Blanchardstown and Tallaght might have contributed with a higher proportion of health care workers but I haven't heard of any breakouts in either one.

Anyone working there is more likely to take proper precautions.

Hurrache

beauf wrote: »

It's simply people, teens and kids, not social distancing and not wearing masks etc. You see it all over the area and in the shops. People deliberately not giving a flying fig.

And people simply try to blame it on all sorts of reasons, but it's just people being dicks.

Larbre34

miamee wrote: »

I thought maybe the large hospitals in Blanchardstown and Tallaght might have contributed with a higher proportion of health care workers but I haven't heard of any breakouts in either one.

Nothing to do with that whatsoever. The areas around St Vincent's and Beaumont are among the lowest infection rates in the City.

Larbre34

The level of tolerance by places like Blanch Centre has to be looked at. I haven't gone near it in a week or so but in the preceding few weeks at least 30% of people in the open malls had no mask.

All indoor public spaces have to have ZERO tolerance for mask wearing. No mask on you, you're not coming in, take your mask off within the Centre, you're thrown out. If it takes laws to make the management responsible for that, so be it.

Caranica

beauf wrote: »

Anyone working there is more likely to take proper precautions.

One of my most infuriating social media contacts is a frontline healthcare worker and is in group socialising pics pretty much every single night. Same with some teachers!

raheny red

Larbre34 wrote: »

The level of tolerance by places like Blanch Centre has to be looked at. I haven't gone near it in a week or so but in the preceding few weeks at least 30% of people in the open malls had no mask.

All indoor public spaces have to have ZERO tolerance for mask wearing. No mask on you, you're not coming in, take your mask off within the Centre, you're thrown out. If it takes laws to make the management responsible for that, so be it.

Blanch SC installing revolving doors during a pandemic an odd one as well.

Orobhsa

BLANCHARDSTOWN-MULHUDDART Local Electoral Area has the highest incident rate in country: 189 per 100k of population in the past 14 days:

Other LEAs in D15: Ongar 128 and Castleknock 123 per 100K

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com

Some sad twat(s) has erected ‘County Dublin’ and ‘County Meath’ signs on every road around Clonee village. Not a hint of humour about them either.

ongarboy

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Some sad twat(s) has erected ‘County Dublin’ and ‘County Meath’ signs on every road around Clonee village. Not a hint of humour about them either.

I saw this just off the approach road from Clonee to Ongar yesterday. I thought the sign looked very amateurish and unofficial. What's the supposed logic behind it?

raheny red

I see the Hopper are doing a roaring trade.

ongarboy

ongarboy wrote: »

I saw this just off the approach road from Clonee to Ongar yesterday. I thought the sign looked very amateurish and unofficial. What's the supposed logic behind it?

I’d say it’s that stupid parochial stuff. The rest of the country is delighted Dublin is locked down, let’s not kid ourselves.

Brock Turnpike

raheny red wrote: »

I see the Hopper are doing a roaring trade.

Heard a bus load of lads from Cabral turned up last week and were turned away.

ciaran76

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Some sad twat(s) has erected ‘County Dublin’ and ‘County Meath’ signs on every road around Clonee village. Not a hint of humour about them either.

Must be the "Covid Police" :P

Went past the sign on Monday and thought someone went out of there way and paid money to get them done and also to erect them.
Some people have too much time on their hands worring about the wrong things.

Brock Turnpike

ongarboy wrote: »

I saw this just off the approach road from Clonee to Ongar yesterday. I thought the sign looked very amateurish and unofficial. What's the supposed logic behind it?

I'd imagine some of the Meath people are none too plussed about the fact a huge number of people are pouring over the border when Dublin is on L3 restrictions.

liamog

We should go out and start moving the signs, whilst Dublin is in lockdown Ongar should declare allegiance to Meath, I only need a 250m extension

Hurrache

There was one put on the road into Kilbride from Hollystown, but I thought it was a temp one put there by the crew who dug ditches to lay cables. Either way, they've annexed 10/20 metres of Dublin in the process.

Brock Turnpike

Hurrache wrote: »

There was one put on the road into Kilbride from Hollystown, but I thought it was a temp one put there by the crew who dug ditches to lay cables. Either way, they've annexed 10/20 metres of Dublin in the process.

Putin was accused of war crimes when he done similar in Crimea

blanch152

Orobhsa wrote: »

BLANCHARDSTOWN-MULHUDDART Local Electoral Area has the highest incident rate in country: 189 per 100k of population in the past 14 days:

Other LEAs in D15: Ongar 128 and Castleknock 123 per 100K

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com

11 days later, the numbers are

Blanch-Mulhuddart: 127.5
Castleknock 95.4
Ongar 145.1

Two down, one up, a mixed picture, but none of them as high as the highest then, and the lowest now lower than the lowest then, so slight progress.