Customs clamp down on counterfeit jerseys.

Brand_New

Peregrinus wrote: »

Dunno, but I imagine the company has taken advice on that issue.

My gut feeling is that the risk is not great. It's not (so far as I know) a crime for me to import goods whose manufacture would have required a license but wasn't licensed. The risk I fact is not arrest, charge, conviction, penalty, but simply confiscation of the goods concerned. And if it's not a crime for me to import the goods, I struggle to think that those whose services were engaged in the process - couriers, packaging companies, advertising channels, etc - were committing crimes.

And, if it were a crime to import the goods or to provide ancillary services, I think you'd have the problem of proving that the importer/service provider knew that the goods concerned (a) needed to be licensed, and (b) werent.

I believe the lack of consequences for importing is not due to it being legal but due to lack of resources to punish the crime in the vast majority of cases.

Boards.ie has now become a resource for people wishing to gain information on importing counterfeit goods. How did it come to this?

Brand_New

con747 wrote: »

Leave you to it so.:pac:

Are you mocking the advise of other posters?

Silly Gilly

con747 wrote: »

The replica jerseys are licensed, the counterfeit ones are counterfeit. That is why it is allowed on Boards
"The main difference between jerseys is that replica jerseys are intended to be made for fans to wear off-field while authentic jerseys are a player issue style, meaning that the authentic football jerseys are the ones that the players actually wear on pitch"

Con, I'm not sure what part of ordering $16 Manchester United jerseys through WhatsApp you think is legitimate. It is obvious to anyone that these are fakes and Boards are turning a blind eye because it increases their post numbers and therefore revenue.

I don't particularly care about Premier League clubs getting ripped off. It's the hypocrisy and inconsistentcy of Boards that annoys me. For example, mention IPTV in Broadcasting and the moderator of that particular fiefdom will scold you like a naughty child.

Like most things in this disaster of a site it has been left to the whims of unpaid volunteers to set whatever rules they see fit. This place should be used as a reference for how not to run a business.

sabat

con747 wrote: »

There are only three types, Authentic = Players wear while playing. Replica = fans buy to wear (wishing they were playing). Counterfeit = made in a sweat factory somewhere unlicensed unlike the first two.

There's also a "grey market" where a factory owner in Asia doing a big run for one of the sports firms will knock out an extra few hundred jerseys or pairs of runners and send them out the back door to the market. These goods are the exact same as the official ones but at a fraction of the price.

Silly Gilly

Brand_New wrote: »

I believe the lack of consequences for importing is not due to it being legal but due to lack of resources to punish the crime in the vast majority of cases.

Boards.ie has now become a resource for people wishing to gain information on importing counterfeit goods. How did it come to this?

It is run by clowns.

Silly Gilly

Brand_New wrote: »

Are you mocking the advise of other posters?

Apropos of nothing, but I wonder why you keep rage-quitting then re-registering a short while later. I think it would probably be best if you just gave the place up altogether.

Brand_New

Silly Gilly wrote: »

Apropos of nothing, but I wonder why you keep rage-quitting then re-registering a short while later. I think it would probably be best if you just gave the place up altogether.

The website is a wealth of information.
I don't have the legal knowledge to understand this situation but there are some on this forum who do.

wonski

sabat wrote: »

There's also a "grey market" where a factory owner in Asia doing a big run for one of the sports firms will knock out an extra few hundred jerseys or pairs of runners and send them out the back door to the market. These goods are the exact same as the official ones but at a fraction of the price.

Yeah, right...

That's what they are, exactly the same - not. Even if they were that means they were stolen, so not sure that's any better;)

They are also the brand new iphones with slightly damaged boxes also given away for free on facebook because they can't sell them in this condition:D

Silly Gilly

Brand_New wrote: »

The website is a wealth of information.
I don't have the legal knowledge to understand this situation but there are some on this forum who do.

You are not really answering my question, coloured bucket, but whatever. Best of luck to you!

con747

sabat wrote: »

There's also a "grey market" where a factory owner in Asia doing a big run for one of the sports firms will knock out an extra few hundred jerseys or pairs of runners and send them out the back door to the market. These goods are the exact same as the official ones but at a fraction of the price.

Quote, "What does GREY market mean?
A grey market is a market in which goods have been manufactured by or with the consent of the brand owner but are sold outside of the brand owner's approved distribution channels—an activity that can be perfectly legal"

Goodbye all

Brand_New

Silly Gilly wrote: »

You are not really answering my question, coloured bucket, but whatever. Best of luck to you!

I'm trying to keep on topic but would like to acknowledge that I do appreciate the information from posters like yourself who have knowledge in this area.

sabat

wonski wrote: »

Yeah, right...

That's what they are, exactly the same - not. Even if they were that means they were stolen, so not sure that's any better;)

They are also the brand new iphones with slightly damaged boxes also given away for free on facebook because they can't sell them in this condition:D

What's so unbelievable about it? The man from Adidas says "here's the blueprint, I need 5,000 of these at $5 a piece." The Vietnamese textile factory owner does an extra 200 on the sly and knocks them out for $15 each. It's extremely common. In this scenario any legal dispute would be between them and not on the end consumer. I mean, you're right, it is a form of theft.

hullaballoo

Silly Gilly wrote: »

I see you started a thread in Help Desk about this. No surprise about the response you got. This was brought up before and another admin, who is supposedly a laywer (although I believe he got his diploma in a Christmas cracker) no less, dismissed the clear breach of copyright.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108842717

Actually, I collected 7,000,000 Pepsi Points and they gave me 2 undergraduate degrees, a Masters and a Professional degree from Clown University. Tbh, the Christmas cracker diploma is just sitting in a wardrobe gathering dust as I don't rate it.

Most people using this site are smart enough not to look a gift horse in the mouth but occasionally, someone barrels in looking to police things for themselves and, well, clowns like Beasty and me and the rest of the admins can only really shrug our shoulders and move on.

I'll be firing off an email there myself just to spite those equivocating clowns Beasty and hullaballoo.

This hurts my feelings... oh no, wait, it doesn't.

GM228

I thought you only got a Harrier Jump Jet with those Pepsi points, if only I had known....

I'm guessing most are scratching their heads now saying what on earth are they on

Peregrinus

GM228 wrote: »

I thought you only got a Harrier Jump Jet with those Pepsi points, if only I had known....

I'm guessing most are scratching their heads now saying what on earth are they on

What are you on? Can I have some?

hullaballoo

Pepsi'd up to the eyeballs. :eek:

GM228

Peregrinus wrote: »

What are you on? Can I have some?

hullaballoo wrote: »

Pepsi'd up to the eyeballs. :eek:

Some other form of Cola, possibly a replica or counterfeit Pepsi, not sure so best not advocate it's use here

Victor

GM228 wrote: »

what on earth are they on

Millions. They're on millions and millions and are absolutely minted.

Guy:Incognito

con747 wrote: »

Quote, "What does GREY market mean?
A grey market is a market in which goods have been manufactured by or with the consent of the brand owner but are sold outside of the brand owner's approved distribution channels—an activity that can be perfectly legal"

Goodbye all

Running off extras and selling them out the back door is not with the consent of the brand owner.........



I don't visit the fashion forum, is there a similar thread for knock off handbags and clothes?

con747

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Running off extras and selling them out the back door is not with the consent of the brand owner.........



I don't visit the fashion forum, is there a similar thread for knock off handbags and clothes?

Where did I mention selling anything out a back door? I merely explained what "grey market" means.