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What do you believe happens when we die
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Bannasidhe wrote: »Firstly - that is a response. A petulant one granted but still a response.
Secondly - this is a discussion forum. You made a statement in which you essentially made a judgement call about other posters based on a single factual phrase which made no reference to an afterlife (and the phrase you used to make your dig was used by only 2 posters - myself included). I, as one of the targets of your dig, am calling you out on it.
Now, you can explain how you managed to figure that Statement A actually means X,Y,Z and we can discuss that or you can refuse to engage in an honest discussion on a statement you made in a discussion forum. Or you can skulk off having been called out.
You like to play the victim and have claimed that the mods - myself in particular - are out to get you when as the post I called you out on clearly shows you can't help but having a go albeit by twisting what was written. You made the decision to have a go. No-one forced you. You wrote what you wrote and hit submit. A number of posters immediately called you on it.
Now, I am not writing this as a mod. I am writing this as a poster who has been 'judged' and exercising my right to reply.
If you are big enough to deal it out you should be big enough to accept when there is a push back.
It's like this now there's a lot of people who like to suggest that all we are at the end is a rotting corpse.
I've experienced atheists say this to thiests and they seem to think we're basically an organic computer that shuts down and rots.
And they play on it for a reaction.
As an artist/poet/gardener in my opinion that's a very narrow view and in itself it's my view, I'm not calling anyone out.
If I say I don't like the way so and so farm's her or his land or looks after her or his animals animals,it doesn't mean all farmers are the same.
I didn't read the post's before mine, I don't seek validation from people's posts or get rilled up because of an opinion and personalise it.
There's a lot of people getting upset or triggered in conversations on board's and that's a waste of energy, you suggested that I play the victim.
Far from it, I post metaphorically a lot I don't personalise my post's.
I'm not out to upset anyone either.
As you'll see that my post's in other forums I call a spade a spade.
My opinion shouldn't matter to you,as you're well aware that you're a good person yourself.
I've no problem with anyone who posts here, if someone wants to say whatever it's their opinion.
But if someone's Idea of all we are in the end is a rotten corpse, which stinks decays and that's it.
I've every right to suggest that's not a nice way to look at it and from my perspective it's a very narrow and shallow way to look at a lifespan.
And you're right, we do decay and maybe that's it, but the stardust sounds more adventurous and mystical than what I suggest isn't nice.
So it's better people don't get triggered by my post's, it's not worth validating your opinion on mine.
So if my post upset your good self, it wasn't my intention.
Using language like I can skulk off or I'm playing the victim is just a red rag to a sink full of bubbles and soap, so that's just trying to get an emotive response.
So we'll leave it there then
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It's like this now there's a lot of people who like to suggest that all we are at the end is a rotting corpse.
I've experienced atheists say this to thiests and they seem to think we're basically an organic computer that shuts down and rots.
And they play on it for a reaction.
As an artist/poet/gardener in my opinion that's a very narrow view and in itself it's my view, I'm not calling anyone out.
If I say I don't like the way so and so farm's her or his land or looks after her or his animals animals,it doesn't mean all farmers are the same.
I didn't read the post's before mine, I don't seek validation from people's posts or get rilled up because of an opinion and personalise it.
There's a lot of people getting upset or triggered in conversations on board's and that's a waste of energy, you suggested that I play the victim.
Far from it, I post metaphorically a lot I don't personalise my post's.
I'm not out to upset anyone either.
As you'll see that my post's in other forums I call a spade a spade.
My opinion shouldn't matter to you,as you're well aware that you're a good person yourself.
I've no problem with anyone who posts here, if someone wants to say whatever it's their opinion.
But if someone's Idea of all we are in the end is a rotten corpse, which stinks decays and that's it.
I've every right to suggest that's not a nice way to look at it and from my perspective it's a very narrow and shallow way to look at a lifespan.
And you're right, we do decay and maybe that's it, but the stardust sounds more adventurous and mystical than what I suggest isn't nice.
So it's better people don't get triggered by my post's, it's not worth validating your opinion on mine.
So if my post upset your good self, it wasn't my intention.
Using language like I can skulk off or I'm playing the victim is just a red rag to a sink full of bubbles and soap, so that's just trying to get an emotive response.
So we'll leave it there then
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It's like this now there's a lot of people who like to suggest that all we are at the end is a rotting corpse.
I've experienced atheists say this to thiests and they seem to think we're basically an organic computer that shuts down and rots.
And they play on it for a reaction.
As an artist/poet/gardener in my opinion that's a very narrow view and in itself it's my view, I'm not calling anyone out.
If I say I don't like the way so and so farm's her or his land or looks after her or his animals animals,it doesn't mean all farmers are the same.
I didn't read the post's before mine, I don't seek validation from people's posts or get rilled up because of an opinion and personalise it.
There's a lot of people getting upset or triggered in conversations on board's and that's a waste of energy, you suggested that I play the victim.
Far from it, I post metaphorically a lot I don't personalise my post's.
I'm not out to upset anyone either.
As you'll see that my post's in other forums I call a spade a spade.
My opinion shouldn't matter to you,as you're well aware that you're a good person yourself.
I've no problem with anyone who posts here, if someone wants to say whatever it's their opinion.
But if someone's Idea of all we are in the end is a rotten corpse, which stinks decays and that's it.
I've every right to suggest that's not a nice way to look at it and from my perspective it's a very narrow and shallow way to look at a lifespan.
And you're right, we do decay and maybe that's it, but the stardust sounds more adventurous and mystical than what I suggest isn't nice.
So it's better people don't get triggered by my post's, it's not worth validating your opinion on mine.
So if my post upset your good self, it wasn't my intention.
Using language like I can skulk off or I'm playing the victim is just a red rag to a sink full of bubbles and soap, so that's just trying to get an emotive response.
So we'll leave it there then
Yes, some here do think in the end we are all rotting corpses - although no-one had stated that in those terms - and the 2 people who used that phrase certainly said nothing of the kind -and the whole analogy was like O'Leary in the grave until you decided to use it to have a go - and yes, calling people narcissistic etc etc is being judgemental.
No one said you can't be judgemental - but if you are going to be you must also be prepared to be called on it.
When your response to being called out is trying to shut down that line of discussion that is, calling a spade a spade and a shovel full of manure a shovel full of manure, trying to skulk away.
Admitting you hadn't bothered to read the posts before you decided to call other posters empty shells is not the stunning defense you seem to think it is.
It actually makes your post look even more judgemental tbh and deeply deeply shallow.
You could have just said all of the above - wrote about what you believe. You didn't though. You jumped in said "It's interesting to see people who describe themselves as a rotting corpse when they pass, sounds like a metaphor for their lifestyle in general.
Just empty shell's, forever perputatuated in resentment, narcisissim and negativity."
You decided to write that.
I decided to call you on it.
I did that because I thought your post was a pile of steaming, judgemental, having a go, manure.0 -
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Stardust is beautiful
So is the circle of life. And despite calling YOURSELF open minded earlier, while suggesting others have tunnel vision.... the fact is that through our science we can see beauty even in rot and decay. Because through our science we know what that rot and decay is. It is life (like bacteria) feeding on other ex-life in a circular process that begets further life.
So you can look at rot and decry it, and look at people who acknowledge it and insult them. But the really open minded of us look at rot and decay and see the beauty inside it too. It does not have to be happy slappy twinkly star-stuff to be beautiful. At least outside YOUR world.As you'll see that my post's in other forums I call a spade a spade.
And yet when other people do exactly that, you insult them. One rule for you and one for everyone else I guess? Because....I've every right to suggest that's not a nice way to look at it and from my perspective it's a very narrow and shallow way to look at a lifespan.
..... they call the spade a spade and all you can do is moan about it. And I mean moan given that ALSO no one at all suggested you did not have the right above. Always weird to me when people get offended they feel the need to not only assert their rights, but specifically rights no one challenged or inhibited in the first place.And you're right, we do decay and maybe that's it, but the stardust sounds more adventurous and mystical than what I suggest isn't nice.
And as I said that's just because it is happy slappy TO YOU. But those of us who know more science about the circle of life and existence can see no more (or less) beauty in the concept of star dust creating us and our bodies.... than we do rot and decay.
Because when I look at my life I do not just need to see the pretty twinkle twinkle little star of my youth to be in awe of it. Rather I can view the bigger picture of EVERYTHING, including rot and decay, that went before me that led up to the moment of my conception and instantiation. You and I are literally here BECAUSE of rot and decay, and because tiny little organisms we can not even see make a party on corpses when they die. That's beautiful too.
And no one part is more or less beautiful than any other to me, because I do not run the narratives on my neck top computer that you do to parse it all through. And that does not make me narcissistic, empty, close minded, or any other insult you want to fling mud around with in your little play box in the garden.Bannasidhe wrote: »(Hold the door. I am also getting me coat)
Makes Gay innuendos.
Gets their coats and leave together.
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nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »
Makes Gay innuendos.
Gets their coats and leave together.
People will talk
Well this is a discussion forum.
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nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »So is the circle of life. And despite calling YOURSELF open minded earlier, while suggesting others have tunnel vision.... the fact is that through our science we can see beauty even in rot and decay. Because through our science we know what that rot and decay is. It is life (like bacteria) feeding on other ex-life in a circular process that begets further life.
So you can look at rot and decry it, and look at people who acknowledge it and insult them. But the really open minded of us look at rot and decay and see the beauty inside it too. It does not have to be happy slappy twinkly star-stuff to be beautiful. At least outside YOUR world.
And yet when other people do exactly that, you insult them. One rule for you and one for everyone else I guess? Because....
..... they call the spade a spade and all you can do is moan about it. And I mean moan given that ALSO no one at all suggested you did not have the right above. Always weird to me when people get offended they feel the need to not only assert their rights, but specifically rights no one challenged or inhibited in the first place.
And as I said that's just because it is happy slappy TO YOU. But those of us who know more science about the circle of life and existence can see no more (or less) beauty in the concept of star dust creating us and our bodies.... than we do rot and decay.
Because when I look at my life I do not just need to see the pretty twinkle twinkle little star of my youth to be in awe of it. Rather I can view the bigger picture of EVERYTHING, including rot and decay, that went before me that led up to the moment of my conception and instantiation. You and I are literally here BECAUSE of rot and decay, and because tiny little organisms we can not even see make a party on corpses when they die. That's beautiful too.
And no one part is more or less beautiful than any other to me, because I do not run the narratives on my neck top computer that you do to parse it all through. And that does not make me narcissistic, empty, close minded, or any other insult you want to fling mud around with in your little play box in the garden.
Makes Gay innuendos.
Gets their coats and leave together.
People will talk
Ah sure we're all different and I did say that I didn't mean to offend anyone and I apologized if I have so.
I accept that my post wasn't nice and I'll take it back.
Now I'm off collecting hazle nuts or Corylus nuts in the Burren, before they fall to the ground and rot and I won't have the chance to enjoy their flavours and benifets.
I'll be enjoying the company of the nature spirits and entities, such as the Woodwose and other cryptoids in the treelines 0 -
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Best to ask people with near death experiences
Why? Would you ask people who visit Dublin Airport what it is like to have a sunny holiday in Spain?I think they'll be able to transfer our consciousness to a computer and we all live in a world like the Matrix.
Wouldn't be too bad.
Suppose it depends which world they put you in. There is an Ian Banks book on exactly that very thing which might make you rethink things a bitNow I'm off collecting hazle nuts or Corylus nuts in the Burren, before they fall to the ground and rot and I won't have the chance to enjoy their flavours and benifets.
Funny that, I was just about to hit the road to the hills behind my house to raid all the Quince Trees Might be a bit early in the year though but I like to scope the trees out at least before everyone else in the town here does.I'll be enjoying the company of the nature spirits and entities, such as the Woodwose and other cryptoids in the treelines
Healthy imagination you have there. That or its the mushrooms not the nuts you have been eating?0 -
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nozzferrahhtoo wrote: »Why? Would you ask people who visit Dublin Airport what it is like to have a sunny holiday in Spain?
Funny that, I was just about to hit the road to the hills behind my house to raid all the Quince Trees Might be a bit early in the year though but I like to scope the trees out at least before everyone else in the town here does.
Healthy imagination you have there. That or its the mushrooms not the nuts you have been eating?
Lol nature's bounty in my very own county.
Quince trees, they flowerd late this year in Clare and will be late ripening here.
My favourite is the medlar fruit, some people call it the open arse fruit lol
The Burren is full of Hazelwood and hardly any body goes out collecting them..
I hope it's not as wet there s it is here...0
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