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Smart watch given we'll never get Google or Samsung Pay

  • 28-08-2020 2:58pm
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    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Have a Note 9 and a galaxy watch, given it looks like I'll never be able to use the watch to pay for stuff, can anyone recommend a decent not too expensive smart watch that will work (notifications etc) on a note 9.

    Looking at a Fitbit versa?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,503 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    If you're also planning on using it for exercise, then some of the Garmin watches are worth a look. Garmin pay works with Revolut, Spotify, Wifi, notifications via bluetooth from phone, etc. Definitely more of a bias towards sports watch than smart watch, but it ticks your boxes and can do much of it without a phone connection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,495 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    This too shall pass.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Thanks, will use it a bit for fitness but more for the payment option, phone notifications etc. Stupid google pay and samsung pay won't work here.

    Versa 3 looks impressive, launches later this month

    https://www.fitbit.com/ie/shop/versa3


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    flazio wrote: »

    Cheers, just found that myself....looks the business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭JH_raheny


    Thanks, will use it a bit for fitness but more for the payment option, phone notifications etc. Stupid google pay and samsung pay won't work here.

    Versa 3 looks impressive, launches later this month

    https://www.fitbit.com/ie/shop/versa3

    Google pay does work in Ireland, from my phone anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,153 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    JH_raheny wrote: »
    Google pay does work in Ireland, from my phone anyway

    I use it on my phone every day, could be your bank doesn't support it.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Del2005 wrote: »
    I use it on my phone every day, could be your bank doesn't support it.

    Yeah works on mine too, its the watch it doesn't work on in Ireland.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Regarding a watch, I'd recommend Garmin if you want the benefits of fitness stuff. Go for Fitbit if you just want a watch for payments. I don't rate the quality of Fitbit products, although that may have improved over the last few years.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wear os pay <> google pay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,914 ✭✭✭Alkers


    glasso wrote: »
    wear os pay <> google pay

    What do you mean?


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  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    <> means not equal to


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    glasso wrote: »
    <> means not equal to

    Yeah but what does the comment actually mean?

    If you want to use your watch to pay for something in Ireland, neither OS Wear or Google Pay (or even Samsung Pay) work....or do you disagree?


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Google pay is what you can use to pay with your phone (uses NFC) ->does work in Ireland.

    Google Pay on Wear OS is paying by using a device like a watch running Android Wear OS -> doesn't work in Ireland.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    glasso wrote: »
    Google pay is what you can use to pay with your phone (uses NFC) ->does work in Ireland.

    Google Pay on Wear OS is paying by using a device like a watch running Android Wear OS -> doesn't work in Ireland.

    Thanks, thought I was missing something.


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    I think Glasso is a bit tipsy. :pac:

    It was so nice while I lived in Spain to be able to leave my phone behind when I went for a jog, have my music stored on it with my Bluetooth earphones and then also have the ability to pick up some essentials in a shop on the way back if needed. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before it launches here. :)


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think Glasso is a bit tipsy. :pac:

    It was so nice while I lived in Spain to be able to leave my phone behind when I went for a jog, have my music stored on it with my Bluetooth earphones and then also have the ability to pick up some essentials in a shop on the way back if needed. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before it launches here. :)

    it only is in operation in 11 countries worldwide and that has been the case for a whlle.

    what makes you sure that it's going to come to Ireland anytime soon?


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks, thought I was missing something.

    using google pay in the most understood sense is using a phone

    using google pay through wear os is something different - particularly evident as it doesn't work here!


  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    it only is in operation in 11 countries worldwide and that has been the case for a whlle.

    what makes you sure that it's going to come to Ireland anytime soon?

    I didn't say soon, I just said eventually. I'm sure I'll be using it to pay for my Dublin Bus trips for those last few years before the bus becomes free for me anyway. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    A plus 1 on Garmin watches, you can pick up the Vivoactive 3 in curry's for €170 and it has everything you seem to be looking for minus music, but considering you want to get notifications from your phone that shouldn't be a problem.

    I have a Garmin (645) and have used it to pay for coffee's and shopping in Lidl etc. Use my revolut card and just keep €100 on it. As for notifications, it displays reminders from google calendar and allows you to reply to whatsapp messages via your watch, basically anything that pops up on your phone can be displayed on your watch. A handy feature is 'find my phone' which I have used a few times, had dropped my phone out walking the dogs, retraced my steps and the phone reconnected via bluetooth and then my phone buzzed and I found it in the long grass, the amount of times I have left it 'somewhere' in the house and two button presses on the watch and there it is beside the toilet, again :o .

    You don't need your phone with you to use garmin pay either, again a couple of button presses and viola done and dusted.

    I mainly use mine for running and my one downloads music and podcasts so I don't need my phone while out. I get at least 4 or 5 days out of a charge but normally I'll charge it every couple of days for an hour and that is all it needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,503 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    It was so nice while I lived in Spain to be able to leave my phone behind when I went for a jog, have my music stored on it with my Bluetooth earphones and then also have the ability to pick up some essentials in a shop on the way back if needed. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before it launches here. :)
    You're describing my Garmin Fenix 5 plus. Runs Spotify, streams directly to my bluetooth headphones (along with running splits, notifications etc), full maps and navigation for all of Europe, Garmin pay supported everywhere that supports contactless payments (not Dublin Bus, unfortunately!), battery lasts a week on 60-90 minutes of exercise a day. It's not Android Wear OS, but hey...


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  • Posts: 8,717 [Deleted User]


    You're describing my Garmin Fenix 5 plus. Runs Spotify, streams directly to my bluetooth headphones (along with running splits, notifications etc), full maps and navigation for all of Europe, Garmin pay supported everywhere that supports contactless payments (not Dublin Bus, unfortunately!), battery lasts a week on 60-90 minutes of exercise a day. It's not Android Wear OS, but hey...

    Yeah I'd certainly make the switch but I'd miss the Wear OS app store too much! Can't have everything I guess.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You're describing my Garmin Fenix 5 plus. Runs Spotify, streams directly to my bluetooth headphones (along with running splits, notifications etc), full maps and navigation for all of Europe, Garmin pay supported everywhere that supports contactless payments (not Dublin Bus, unfortunately!), battery lasts a week on 60-90 minutes of exercise a day. It's not Android Wear OS, but hey...

    if you're a runner wear os is not for you.

    besides the 2 hour battery life total if using gps, the running pace and HR tracking is not very reliable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    On a related note, I was able to link my Revolut card with both Garmin Pay (Forerunner) and Fitbit Versa 2, and use both without issues.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    chrislad wrote: »
    On a related note, I was able to link my Revolut card with both Garmin Pay (Forerunner) and Fitbit Versa 2, and use both without issues.

    Garmin and Fitbit are the only two payment systems that work in Ireland afaik


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    chrislad wrote: »
    On a related note, I was able to link my Revolut card with both Garmin Pay (Forerunner) and Fitbit Versa 2, and use both without issues.

    Thanks, Revolut confirmed yesterday you can link to fit but pay but good to hear from a real punter.

    The Versa 3 came out yesterday, think I'll go for that and try and sell by galaxy watch for a few quid. Can't see any downsides to Galaxy vs Fit bit....longer battery time and of course using a watch to pay for stuff using fitbit pay.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thanks, Revolut confirmed yesterday you can link to fit but pay but good to hear from a real punter.

    The Versa 3 came out yesterday, think I'll go for that and try and sell by galaxy watch for a few quid. Can't see any downsides to Galaxy vs Fit bit....longer battery time and of course using a watch to pay for stuff using fitbit pay.

    Another one to throw in the mix is the new Garmin Venu Sq

    https://buy.garmin.com/en-IE/GB/p/707174


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Basil3 wrote: »
    Another one to throw in the mix is the new Garmin Venu Sq

    https://buy.garmin.com/en-IE/GB/p/707174

    Mmmmmmmmmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭ipnface


    Google pay works on wear os in Ireland. Just download 'pay enabler' app on your watch


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ipnface wrote: »
    Google pay works on wear os in Ireland. Just download 'pay enabler' app on your watch

    Doesn't work anymore for most Android Wear devices.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Basil3 wrote: »
    Doesn't work anymore for most Android Wear devices.

    indeed it doesn't work, did it ever (apart from sometimes)?

    Anyway, with a Samsung watch OS wear is of no relevance given samsung pay is useless here.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Trying to decide whether its worth paying thr extra €50 to have 'proper Spotify on the Garmin.

    Even on the fit bit it seems its a controller of your Spotify account only and to use it you'll need to have phone in Bluetooth range...


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