Asymptomatic vs pre-symptomatic

lainey_d_123

gabeeg wrote: »

That's awful. Are you at high risk?

Higher than most my age, yes.

owlbethere

Does the authorities for public health or those responsible for public health, follow up on people who test positive and are asymptomatic? To establish that they remain asymptomatic throughout the 14 days infectious period?

Away With The Fairies

Do people feel better with the word asymptomatic? That's trying to put a positive spin on things again, isn't it.

Yet, there was a link provided here about a doctor in Kildare being asymptomatic and now having heart issues.

Where's the positivity in being asymptomatic?

Pablo Escobar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I seem to have got Covid early in March, but was never tested. Got the extreme breathlessness, low oxygen, fever etc, had travelled. Recovered in 5-6 weeks, although I got a superimposed bacterial infection which responded well to antibiotics. However, I have have subsequent episodes of cardiac arrhythmia, some of it severe and once or twice almost causing me to pass out. I did already have a history of Atrial Fibrillation, but this became more significant during and after my viral infection.

I had similar 1st week of February. GP and lung specialist think it was Covid. I haven’t taken an antibody test or been tested for covid full stop. 6 month on, I still have minor effects. I can’t run for any length of time anymore despite being 34 and quite fit. I manage about 3km when I used to be able to get off to couch and do a 10km run without a second thought. It has majorly improved since the beginning but it’s lingering and seems to have settled at this point. It’s very very frustrating.

FintanMcluskey

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Do people feel better with the word asymptomatic? That's trying to put a positive spin on things again, isn't it.

Yet, there was a link provided here about a doctor in Kildare being asymptomatic and now having heart issues.

Where's the positivity in being asymptomatic?

Bizzare post.

It means your not sick.

Thats a positive. There is a miniscule number of outliers like above.

Would you rather every person that had Covid needed a ventillator

ShineOn7

What was the figure on Asymptomatic people in one of the meat packing places again? I remember it was huge

ShineOn7

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

But also, mental health is a thing. I've spent 6 months cooped up in a tiny bedroom (bar one awful, stressful trip home to visit my dysfunctional family) and I just can't cope with it anymore. The depression, anxiety and loneliness are starting to outweigh the risk for me now.

Sorry to hear Lainey. You're in London if I'm remembering right?

I've been extremely cautious and limited my social contacts to about 10 people max for 6 months now. In the last week though, like yourself, I've realised I can't maintain this for another 6 months and I'll need to bring my guard ever so slightly down

lainey_d_123

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Sorry to hear Lainey. You're in London if I'm remembering right?

I've been extremely cautious and limited my social contacts to about 10 people max for 6 months now. In the last week though, like yourself, I've realised I can't maintain this for another 6 months and I'll need to bring my guard ever so slightly down

Yep, in London. From March until early August I had pretty much seen nobody but my flatmates. They went home to their families during the summer so had about 8 weeks of literally seeing nobody at all, which on one hand was more relaxing, but on the other I felt like I was starting to go mad from loneliness.

I decided to hold off any meetups when the pubs reopened, and see how things went and give them a chance to implement their distancing and whatnot and do a bit of trial and error. This weekend was the first time I felt confident enough to head out. I met a small group of friends yesterday at a restaurant (outside table, distanced from other groups, only went inside twice for toilet and to pay at the end) and today I met 4 friends at a pub for a few pints, again outside, only going in to get a round and to go to the toilet. Places were very, very quiet inside and well ventilated.

I have to say, my mental health is a LOT better for having met up with people and enjoyed a few drinks and some food. I knew I was suffering from being stuck on my own but didn't realise just how much. This is the first weekend since March that I feel like I've had a proper weekend and actually done stuff. Yes, there is a risk, but I did everything I could - hand gel, washing hands, distancing as much as possible, choosing quiet places to go. I actually do wish I'd relaxed a little sooner - looks like we've missed the best of the weather now but hot weather = crowds and that made me nervous!

TonyMaloney

ShineOn7 wrote: »

What was the figure on Asymptomatic people in one of the meat packing places again? I remember it was huge

It was 70 or 80, but if you read the first post in this thread you'll see they most were likely pre-symptomatic.

If there was a large outbreak here and they were all genuinely asymptomatic, then the eyes of the world would be upon us and there'd be all sorts of studies underway.

Uriel.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Bizzare post.

It means your not sick.

Thats a positive. There is a miniscule number of outliers like above.

Would you rather every person that had Covid needed a ventillator

That's not what asymptomatic means. It means you don't have visible symptoms. It doesn't mean you're not "sick"

FintanMcluskey

Uriel. wrote: »

That's not what asymptomatic means. It means you don't have visible symptoms. It doesn't mean you're not "sick"

No thats pre symptomatic, which is no symptoms at testing but leading to illness , asymptomatic means your not ill, you can spread it but you are not Ill

Uriel.

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

No thats pre symptomatic, which is no symptoms at testing but leading to illness , asymptomatic means your not ill, you can spread it but you are not Ill

No, pre-symptomatic is the period from infection to onset of symptoms.

Asymptomatic is showing no symptoms during the course of your illness. Neither means you do not have an illness. In both cases you have an illness but during the course of an/the illness, in one you go on to display (overt?) symptoms. The other you don't.

TonyMaloney

Uriel. wrote: »

No, pre-symptomatic is the period from infection to onset of symptoms.

Asymptomatic is showing no symptoms during the course of your illness. Neither means you do not have an illness. In both cases you have an illness but during the course of an/the illness, in one you go on to display (overt?) symptoms. The other you don't.

Prexactly!

And in the case of covid, some asymptomatic people can have organ damage